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Old 12-24-2008, 10:08 PM
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Honestly, I think it's whatever gives them the most views. The 2008 election was all about booting out an unpopular party, so the media did whatever it could do to smear the GOP. Don't be surprised after 4 years that the media starts hammering Obama if the economy doesn't turn around. The only people who don't swing sides would be the commentators like Rush Limbaugh and Keith Olbermann.
I disagree. The MSM is so liberal, that they'll keep blaming Bush for everything that goes wrong in Obama's presidency.
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Honestly, I think it's whatever gives them the most views. The 2008 election was all about booting out an unpopular party, so the media did whatever it could do to smear the GOP. Don't be surprised after 4 years that the media starts hammering Obama if the economy doesn't turn around. The only people who don't swing sides would be the commentators like Rush Limbaugh and Keith Olbermann.
It's definitely a business aimed attracting consumers of news. Whether or not it's about persuading consumers is a matter of opinion. Personally, I think most every publishing entity is trying to persuade their consumers. In other words, I don't think there is any such thing as "objectivity" in the media. That fundamental premise has long been cast aside, if you ask me.

That's not necessarily a bad thing, but the news outlets need to come clean and shed their pretense of "objectivity." It's a fraud perpetrated on their consumers.
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Old 12-24-2008, 10:15 PM
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I disagree. The MSM is so liberal, that they'll keep blaming Bush for everything that goes wrong in Obama's presidency.


They will blame GWB for sure, but they will also go to great lengths to protect BO since the blame game will only work for so long. Eventually BO will have to stand on his own merits and that's when the MSM will be tested (again). Of course, we all know how it will go down in terms of the MSM coverage of BO. They will circle the wagons around their guy.
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Old 12-24-2008, 10:28 PM
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I disagree. The MSM is so liberal, that they'll keep blaming Bush for everything that goes wrong in Obama's presidency.

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Old 12-24-2008, 10:29 PM
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I disagree. The MSM is so liberal, that they'll keep blaming Bush for everything that goes wrong in Obama's presidency.
Yeah, blaming Bush will be the way they deflect criticism from Oboma.

Here is an interesting article from the (December 20, 2008) NYT (all the while ignoring it's September 30, 1999 edition about Clinton's role);
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.....................The three reporters on the byline included Sheryl Gay Stolberg and Stephen Labaton, both of whom have long-established hostilities against conservatives and conservative ideas.

Typically, they offered only glancing acknowledgement that other factors besides Bush were involved in the mortgage meltdown and the resulting financial crisis: There are just ten mentions of Congress in the 4,900-word story..........................

..................Conspicuously absent from that brief blame list is Congress, and specifically Congress’s most ardent defenders of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Democrat Rep. Barney Frank and Sen. Chris Dodd. Throughout the story the Times did the bare minimum of acknowledging the president’s attempts to regulate the quasi-government mortgage finance giants, then blaming him at the end.................................

...........................Why, the September 30, 1999 edition of the New York Times:
.......................Fannie Mae, the nation's biggest underwriter of home mortgages, has been under increasing pressure from the Clinton Administration to expand mortgage loans among low and moderate income people and felt pressure from stock holders to maintain its phenomenal growth in profits..................

NYT Front-Page Spread Blames Bush for "Mortgage Bonfire"
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Old 12-24-2008, 10:38 PM
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They viewed her as a real threat and they went after her in a BIG way. Nevermind the fact that virtually ALL of it was BS. I think it just goes to show you that the major mass media outlets have taken sides in the political party (and cultural) struggle for America. Shameful, and we now see there is a revolution going on in the News industry. The NYTs is falling on hard times, as well as a lot of other entrenched news media outlets. It's been an interesting evolution of media coverage and it will also be interesting how it evolves from here. I do think, however, that liberals have an advantage on news coverage be it print or TV as they seem to be more passionate about it. Conservatives tend to focus on, well, making this country successful and the great place that it is.
I agree, Psyclist. The majority of the journalists are probably liberals, so there was a definite "slant" to the news. The McCain camp should have brought up lots more about Obama during the campaign than they did...of course, when McCain did bring anything up in the debates, he came off as a "bitter little old man", and Obama made him look silly. I couldn't even watch the last debate it make me so uncomfortable for McCain. What has perplexed me the most, though, was the misinformation about Palin that came from the McCain side, ie; Africa - continent or country.
But, yeah...Palin was an incredible threat and they -the media, the dems, etc, had to make up a ton of crap to knock her down! I posted an article called "Palin, Why They Hate Her" that was very much on target! I hope she has a chance in the future!!!
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Old 12-24-2008, 10:40 PM
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Honestly, I think it's whatever gives them the most views. The 2008 election was all about booting out an unpopular party, so the media did whatever it could do to smear the GOP. Don't be surprised after 4 years that the media starts hammering Obama if the economy doesn't turn around. The only people who don't swing sides would be the commentators like Rush Limbaugh and Keith Olbermann.
I hope you are right, swirl. I would love to see the media turn the hounds on Obama like they did on Palin. What will he do without a teleprompter???
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Old 12-24-2008, 10:42 PM
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I disagree. The MSM is so liberal, that they'll keep blaming Bush for everything that goes wrong in Obama's presidency.
Only too true, Susanna. Think where we would be today if Gore had won the presidency instead of Bush...can you say "burqa"???
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Old 12-24-2008, 10:46 PM
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Oh, forgot to comment on the NYT falling on hard times...ummm...Karma is a witch...lol
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When my local newspaper started going negative on Palin I called and canceled my subscription. She was the biggest reason I voted this year.

I would hope the msm looses enough revenue that they have to change their tatics to survive.
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