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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullseyed View Post
    The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group and said to Jesus, "Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?" They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him.

    But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.

    At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. Jesus straightened up and asked her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?"

    "No one, sir," she said.

    "Then neither do I condemn you," Jesus declared. "Go now and leave your life of sin."



    Written in the dirt references that the law is of the Earth not of God. It is a condemnation of the interpretation the Jews had made of the law written on the stone tablets. Judge and be judged, judge not and spare one's self judgement.
    Now that's a new one for me!

    Actually, it was part of the law given to Moses by God. In this case, Jesus wasn't even in a legal position to judge - they brought the woman to Him to try to trick Him.

    And as far as I know, technically that law still applies to the Jews, because they have not accepted Christ as their Messiah - because His death on the cross not only covers the sin of those who repent, but puts off the judgement until after death, or at the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Susanna View Post
    Now that's a new one for me!

    Actually, it was part of the law given to Moses by God. In this case, Jesus wasn't even in a legal position to judge - they brought the woman to Him to try to trick Him.

    And as far as I know, technically that law still applies to the Jews, because they have not accepted Christ as their Messiah - because His death on the cross not only covers the sin of those who repent, but puts off the judgement until after death, or at the end.
    That isn't accurate. Jesus didn't follow those commands when he was alive, neither did the disciples, and(presumabley) John the Baptist either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CWolf View Post
    That isn't accurate. Jesus didn't follow those commands when he was alive, neither did the disciples, and(presumabley) John the Baptist either.
    Actually, many of the Jewish laws were suppressed by the Roman rule; in any case, they were to be administered by the religious leaders.

    If you are referring to where Jesus & his disciples plucked the heads of corn (it was probably actually what we call wheat), that was not part of the law; it was the interpretation in the Talmud, where they decided they (men) had to define what the law (God) meant, and had all kinds of rules and regulations for the Sabbath Day which were not specified in the Mosaic law. If you will remember, on several occasions, Jesus rebuked the pharisees for putting the "traditions of men" above the "commandments of God."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Susanna View Post
    Now that's a new one for me!

    Actually, it was part of the law given to Moses by God. In this case, Jesus wasn't even in a legal position to judge - they brought the woman to Him to try to trick Him.

    And as far as I know, technically that law still applies to the Jews, because they have not accepted Christ as their Messiah - because His death on the cross not only covers the sin of those who repent, but puts off the judgement until after death, or at the end.
    As far as I am aware, the law given to Moses (the 10 commandments) says 'thou shall not commit adultery', not 'thou shall kill all those who commit adultery'.

    Quote Originally Posted by Exodus 20:13-14
    Thou shalt not kill.

    Thou shalt not commit adultery.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Susanna View Post
    Now that's a new one for me!

    Actually, it was part of the law given to Moses by God. In this case, Jesus wasn't even in a legal position to judge - they brought the woman to Him to try to trick Him.

    And as far as I know, technically that law still applies to the Jews, because they have not accepted Christ as their Messiah - because His death on the cross not only covers the sin of those who repent, but puts off the judgement until after death, or at the end.
    It does. I don't know how they explain it away - I have my own ways of reconciling it, but my way isn't necessarily the majority's way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullseyed View Post
    As far as I am aware, the law given to Moses (the 10 commandments) says 'thou shall not commit adultery', not 'thou shall kill all those who commit adultery'.
    It's in Leviticus. Jews have to follow all 613 mitzvot, not just the Ten Commandments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuddenImpact View Post
    It's in Leviticus. Jews have to follow all 613 mitzvot, not just the Ten Commandments.

    Judaism 101: A List of the 613 Mitzvot (Commandments)
    I know that, but that is the law of rabbinical tradition, not of Moses, right?

    I was of the impression that referring to the law of Moses generally means the 10 commandments, not the laws created after the Jewish people exited exile.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullseyed View Post
    I know that, but that is the law of rabbinical tradition, not of Moses, right?

    I was of the impression that referring to the law of Moses generally means the 10 commandments, not the laws created after the Jewish people exited exile.
    No, Mosaic law is all the laws Moses put into place. It begins with the Ten Commandments, though.
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