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			<title><![CDATA[It's good to be in government]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 15:09:00 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[*The Talkmaster layed out the facts, which show Obama's stimulus is actually a growth in government accompanied by the job market in the private sector shrinking.  In short, the job increase was primarily in the government sector while the private sector suffered even more, we got to pay for it,...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><b>The Talkmaster layed out the facts, which show Obama's stimulus is actually a growth in government accompanied by the job market in the private sector shrinking.  In short, the job increase was primarily in the government sector while the private sector suffered even more, we got to pay for it, and Obama bragged about it while distorting and deceiving the people.</b><br />
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<b><a href="http://boortz.com/nealz_nuze/2010/08/its-good-to-be-in-government.html" target="_blank">IT'S GOOD TO BE IN GOVERNMENT</a></b><br />
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Every day I am reminded of how gunched up over government our country has become. Take a look at <a href="http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/the_public_workers_you_support_S4qBz7VBAMgbzaJ4klsIhO" target="_blank">these statistics from the New York Post</a>. Considering these facts, is it any wonder that the private sector is scared to grow?<ul><li>From January 2008 to January 2010, private-sector jobs plunged from 115.5 million to 106.8 million. But the number of federal, state and local public employees climbed up a tick, from 22.3 million to 22.4 million, as economist Veronique de Rugy recently noted. In other words, some 8.7 million private-sector jobs vanished, while the public sector gained 100,000 jobs.</li>
<li>Private-sector jobs began to fall almost immediately after the onset of the recession in December 2007. But state and local jobs remained steady, at least until last month, when states finally started laying off their workers, too. As for federal employment, as of July, it was nearly 10 percent higher than back then.</li>
<li>On Aug. 1, 2008, the portion of our national debt held by the public stood at $5.4 trillion. Now it stands at more than $8.8 trillion. As of the second quarter, GDP was growing at 2.4 percent, but many economists expect the growth rate to be revised down to 1.3 percent. So while our economy is growing at less than $19 billion per month, we are borrowing, based on the last two years, at the rate of more than $141 billion per month -- 7Â½ times faster.</li>
</ul>This is exactly how Obama and the Democrats would have it. More government means more power to them. The private sector is the enemy. They will go to great lengths to demonize individual success and they will work to paint the rich as evil and greedy. The funny thing is .. at the rate we are going, the greedy rich will eventually be the very same government workers that they created. Then who will they pander to? Then whose pockets will they plunder?<br />
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<a href="http://boortz.com/nealz_nuze/2010/08/its-good-to-be-in-government.html" target="_blank">IT&amp;#39;S GOOD TO BE IN GOVERNMENT - Nealz Nuze on boortz.com</a></div>

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			<title>Small businesses feel squeezed by Obama policies</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2010 16:15:42 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Last year, even as he struggled through the worst of the recession, Chris Upham said revenue at his District-based real estate and construction businesses doubled -- allowing him to hire two agents.  
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Last year, even as he struggled through the worst of the recession, Chris Upham said revenue at his District-based real estate and construction businesses doubled -- allowing him to hire two agents. <br />
But Upham said he hasn't increased his staff thus far in 2010 and he doesn't expect to for the remainder of the year. <br />
That's because his taxes rose sevenfold. And he said he anticipates they'll increase again if the Bush tax cuts for people earning $250,000 and above expire at the end of the year. <br />
As small businesses try to plot their recovery, attention is turning to what many owners consider burdensome policies -- higher taxes, new accounting procedures and health-care mandates. Even as the government tries to help with an array of small-business initiatives, <br />
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<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/03/AR2010090305391_pf.html" target="_blank">Small businesses feel squeezed by Obama policies</a><br />
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One would think Obama got the message that raising taxes will not benefit the nation</div>

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			<title>Six Months to Go Until The Largest Tax Hikes in History</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 02:47:10 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Six Months to Go Until 
*The Largest Tax Hikes in History*  
  
-Personal income tax rates will rise. 
-Higher taxes on marriage and family.  
-The return of the Death Tax. 
-Higher tax rates on savers and investors. 
-There are over twenty new or higher taxes in Obamacare...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><font size="2">Six Months to Go Until</font><br />
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<font size="2">-Personal income tax rates will rise.</font><br />
<font size="2">-Higher taxes on marriage and family. </font><br />
<font size="2">-The return of the Death Tax.</font><br />
<font size="2">-Higher tax rates on savers and investors.</font><br />
<font size="2">-There are over <a href="http://www.atr.org/obamacare-taxes-final-tab-a4744" target="_blank">twenty new or higher taxes in Obamacare</a>. </font><br />
<font size="2">---The Tanning Tax. </font><br />
<font size="2">---The “Medicine Cabinet Tax”</font><br />
<font size="2">---The HSA Withdrawal Tax Hike.</font><br />
<font size="2">---Brand Name Drug Tax.</font><br />
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<font size="2">more;</font><br />
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<font size="2">Read more: <a href="http://atr.org/six-months-untilbr-largest-tax-hikes-a5171##ixzz0y3Ml4csf" target="_blank">http://atr.org/six-months-untilbr-la...#ixzz0y3Ml4csf</a></font><br />
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			<title><![CDATA[China's looming real-estate bubble]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:39:33 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Shikha Dalmia and Anthony Randazzo: China's Looming Real-Estate Bubble - WSJ.com (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704407804575425600708056076.html) 
 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704407804575425600708056076.html" target="_blank">Shikha Dalmia and Anthony Randazzo: China's Looming Real-Estate Bubble - WSJ.com</a><br />
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			American enthusiasts of more stimulus have been urging this country to look to China for guidance on how to beat a recession. As they see it, while our politicians debated and dithered and fell short, China's wise autocrats moved quickly to inject a massive stimulus and restore robust growth.<br />
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Despite the global downturn, China's economic growth rate remains above 10%. But there is mounting evidence that Beijing has misallocated vast amounts of capital, touching off a real-estate crisis that could yet drag the world's second-largest economy down to earth.<br />
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When the global marketplace went into meltdown mode two years ago and Chinese exports dropped off, Beijing mounted a stimulus several times bigger relative to the size of its economy than in this country. It announced a four trillion yuan ($586 billion) stimulus for infrastructure projects and housing developments. Some of the stimulus was used to encourage local governments to lend money to state-owned companies to develop housing complexes, roads and bridges, on the theory that these are big employment generators because they boost heavy manufacturing—steel, cement—and other sectors of the economy.<br />
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Beijing also lowered capital reserve requirements for its state-owned banks ordering them to dole out loans to &quot;support growth.&quot; Though official data are unreliable, in 2009 Beijing apparently handed out somewhere close to 10 trillion yuan in new loans—more than twice the year before—and expanded the country's total loan portfolio and money supply by one-third, according to Patrick Chovanec, associate professor at Tsinghua University's School of Economics and Management in Beijing.<br />
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Prominent progressives in this country hailed the moves. Paul Krugman wrote: &quot;China is doing what I'm constantly urging the Obama Administration to do, which is to reverse the economic decline by a large-scale stimulus.&quot; Dean Baker, co-founder of the Center for Economic and Policy Research wrote in TalkingPoints Memo last year: &quot;If only we could export our Blue Dogs and deficit hawks to China, we might be able to compete.&quot;<br />
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But that ignores the nasty side effects. Fueled in part by this massive injection of liquidity, housing prices that had started dropping due to the recession began to soar again. Over the past year they increased nearly 12%, according to the latest figures from China's National Bureau of Statistics. So many middle-class Chinese (especially young couples wishing to move out of their parents' home) are being priced out of the market that their travails became the subject of a popular TV series called &quot;Dwelling Narrowness.&quot; Beijing banned the show, fearing it would cause unrest.<br />
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The problem is that government money is going to build homes not for occupancy but for ownership. Speculation, if you will. Andy Xie, a Shanghai-based economist formerly with Morgan Stanley, believes almost 25% to 30% of private commercial and housing stock in China is vacant. Entire cities, such as Ordos in inner-Mongolia, erected literally from scratch, stand empty.<br />
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&quot;Chinese treat homes like gold bars buying multiple units as a store of value,&quot; notes Mr. Chovanec. Chinese avoid the stock market because it is still volatile and risky, and banks and bonds offer a low yield. Hence, Chinese are content to buy homes and let them sit because, thanks to the absence of property taxes, holding costs are negligible. Having never experienced a housing slump since China privatized its housing market in the 1990s, they believe that home prices only rise.<br />
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This can't last, but backers of China's stimulus believe there won't be any serious economic downside when the bubble bursts. Homeowners won't be thrown on the street because Chinese buy their first homes outright through their savings—not loans. And when house prices drop, the excess stock will quickly get scooped up—not boarded up.<br />
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While Chinese homeowners are not generally leveraged, those who buy second homes do finance them. And developers, including local governments and state-owned companies, are massively leveraged. This poses a big problem—Shen Minggao, Citigroup's Hong Kong-based China economist, estimates in Bloomberg Businessweek that at least 2.4 trillion yuan of the stimulus is already in nonperforming loans.<br />
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China's autocrats understand that they have a bubble on their hands. They've mandated minimum down payments of 50% on second homes and are considering property taxes to rein in speculative purchases. However, this will mean that the houses put on the market will find fewer buyers.<br />
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Beijing is in a dilemma. It can cut spending and rein in its monetary expansion, releasing over time capital for more productive endeavors (especially if it opens up hitherto closed investment options) and putting the economy on a healthier footing. However, that would mean slower growth, lower home values, rising unemployment and potential political unrest. Alternatively, it can buy a few more years of faux-growth and stability by propping up the real-estate market—and risk making the day of reckoning far worse when it arrives.<br />
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Either way, Beijing's mandarins haven't discovered some magical formula to spend and inflate their way out of a recession. Pouring liquidity into real estate is the Keynesian equivalent of digging ditches and filling them with stones. Unfortunately, the Chinese economy has fallen into one—a ditch, that is. The U.S. might have endured a bad recession. But so long as it avoids the second stimulus that China enthusiasts are advocating, it might be up and running while China is still digging itself out.
			
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</div> Looks like the wise party members of the CPC are simply falling into the same trap that we made when we created our own housing bubble. There's no way that 10% growth is even remotely stable in the long-term. And of course, Krugman, a liberal &quot;economist&quot;, follows with his usual &quot;government inflate the bubble&quot; support, just like he did back then.<br />
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<a href="http://blog.mises.org/10153/krugman-did-cause-the-housing-bubble/" target="_blank">Krugman Did Cause the Housing Bubble </a></div>

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			<title>Create your own Federal Budget</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 22:05:32 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hey all.  
 
With  taxes, government spending and the national debt being constant sources  of debate, I decided to create a thread to let Forumites put their  money where their mouth is. Attached below are links to several on-line  sims of the US federal budget. It'll be interesting to discuss...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hey all. <br />
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With  taxes, government spending and the national debt being constant sources  of debate, I decided to create a thread to let Forumites put their  money where their mouth is. Attached below are links to several on-line  sims of the US federal budget. It'll be interesting to discuss what  types of solutions people can come up with to simultaneously balance the  budget and keep taxes low--or if that's even realistically attainable,  depending on one's domestic and foreign agendas. <br />
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None of the sims are perfect, of course, but some are still very good (and fun---in a political junkie kind of way <img src="http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/Smileys/classic/wink.gif" border="0" alt="" />).<br />
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<a href="http://www.nathannewman.org/nbs/" target="_blank">National Budget Simulation</a><br />
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<a href="http://www.econedlink.org/lessons/index.php?lesson=EM306" target="_blank">EconEdLink | National Budget Simulation</a><br />
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<a href="http://budgethero.publicradio.org/widget/widget.php?refid=apm" target="_blank">American Public Media: Budget Hero</a><br />
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<a href="http://federalbudgetchallenge.org/budget_challenge/sim/budget_master.html" target="_blank">NextTEN Budget Challenge</a><br />
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<a href="http://uspolitics.about.com/gi/o.htm?zi=1/XJ/Ya&amp;zTi=1&amp;sdn=uspolitics&amp;cdn=newsissues&amp;tm=15&amp;gps=150_3068_1003_592&amp;f=11&amp;tt=14&amp;bt=1&amp;bts=1&amp;zu=http%3A//www.kowaldesign.com/budget/" target="_blank">About.com: http://www.kowaldesign.com/budget/</a><br />
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 So give it a shot and share your results. <img src="http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/Smileys/classic/cheesy.gif" border="0" alt="" /></div>

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