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    i would think that any competent adult would know to either use extreme caution or avoid having a snake of this size in the home with small children. It's the parents that ought to be destroyed. Accident is not the appropriate word here, negligence...make that extreme negligence, child endangerment, IS.

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    A dog could have just as easily killed that child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Algol View Post

    Why shouldn't people own exotic animals? If they have kids, I might agree. But hey, I've been around several exotic animals. Not at zoos either, I owned two komodo dragons while growing up, along with a mongoose, parrot, several parrakeets, and I had friends who owned diamondback snakes, coyotes, and some hawk.
    Hawks are marvy fab neato, wish I had two or three, seriously. And I could go big time for a mongoose (Ricki Ticki Tavi was my man ). Growing up I was in on several exotic birds, cockatiels, parrots, and yeah parrakeets galore.

    Amazing that ya had two komodos ! You mean komodos as in the big fellows on those Indonesian islands as seen on TV ? If so, bet they were a handful, er ?

    Coyotes would be okay too. You could make friends with 'em ??

    I never could get into snakes, to much animosity I think. They sorta irritate me, I don't like their attitude , or maybe its cause they don't have any legs, who knows. I've always had one rule regarding snakes: If they're poisonous I kill them immediately. I can dig king snakes however, they're uptown in my book. And garden snakes are cool as long as they stay outta my way, otherwise they get the hoe too.

    Edit: 'Course, there are times when I skip that rule and kill anything that slithers.

    I've always wanted a full-blooded wolf for a pet. I heard if you get them when they're pups and really spend time with them that you can end up with a fine "dog." ?? (I once had a wolf-shepard mix, least I think thats what he was.)

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    The introduction of the Burmese pythons into Florida's Everglades has created some enthusiasm among the hunters there who are challenged by the hunts. That program I watched on TV interviewed some snake hunters. As I recall, one said he had already hunted and killed 8 so far this year, he said they were hard to find and hard to kill too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ping View Post
    A dog could have just as easily killed that child.
    but it didn't. in this case it was a snake. A SNAKE. A wild critter that is not generally considered pet material....except by strange people. People that probably wouldn't be the best choice for parent material. I wouldn't leave my child alone with our dog...and she is dead broke. I wouldn't trust ANY animal with a child alone. But it seems that snake and baby would be a combination that even questionable people would know not to mix in any instance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hectormann View Post
    Hawks are marvy fab neato, wish I had two or three, seriously. And I could go big time for a mongoose (Ricki Ticki Tavi was my man ). Growing up I was in on several exotic birds, cockatiels, parrots, and yeah parrakeets galore.

    Amazing that ya had two komodos ! You mean komodos as in the big fellows on those Indonesian islands as seen on TV ? If so, bet they were a handful, er ?
    Kind of. Komodo Dragons only exist natively to one place, the Komodo Island specifically. Neither any other Indonesian island. It is in fact illegal to export komodo dragons out of the island (a internationally-protected habitat, primarily by the U.S. I believe), as well illegal to import to most countries.

    I obtained two Komodo Dragons by way of them wandering off in my neighbor's yard my family was watching over. What happened was my dad thought he saw a snake (since my family was into hunting and dealing with dangerous animals, from anything as small as a rattle snake to anything as big as a mountain lion (cougar) or anything in between). With the snake-catchers my dad built (a simple design actually), my dad and stepmom caught what we thought were two baby lizards of a similar breed to the komodo (in that it was a poison-spitting lizard).

    One was male, the other female. I personally researched exactly what breed of lizards they were while at school, because it didn't make sense they were any native lizard to the Mojave region. Several months down the road, my dad found out they were illegal to own.

    So he gave me an ultimatum, to get rid of them any means necessary. Well I decided I'd let them out in the desert so I rode my bicycle to the park, on the way there someone just pulled over noticing I had two komodo dragons. He offered $200/ea., so I took him on the offer. In hindsight, I only wish I had let the two go on their own volition into the desert as there's not a single land animal that's going to survive a fight against a komodo.

    Coyotes would be okay too. You could make friends with 'em ??
    Something like that. It's actually that like most wild animals, coyotes are afraid of humans. You won't believe how many times I got around a coyote in the desert though, I mean you can be in a mountain pass and there could be several coyotes around wondering what you're doing, but they'll never attack unless they feel threatened.

    I never could get into snakes, to much animosity I think. They sorta irritate me, I don't like their attitude , or maybe its cause they don't have any legs, who knows. I've always had one rule regarding snakes: If they're poisonous I kill them immediately. I can dig king snakes however, they're uptown in my book. And garden snakes are cool as long as they stay outta my way, otherwise they get the hoe too.
    Even while I may have killed snakes in my childhood, I still loved them all the same. There's an old saying, the most deadliest of beasts is always going to be the most beautiful.

    Edit: 'Course, there are times when I skip that rule and kill anything that slithers.
    Well, when it's between killing a snake or letting someone die... I'll eat the snake no problem. lol

    I've always wanted a full-blooded wolf for a pet. I heard if you get them when they're pups and really spend time with them that you can end up with a fine "dog." ?? (I once had a wolf-shepard mix, least I think thats what he was.)
    Well wolves and coyotes are nothing more than the primeval cousins of dogs.

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    The introduction of the Burmese pythons into Florida's Everglades has created some enthusiasm among the hunters there who are challenged by the hunts. That program I watched on TV interviewed some snake hunters. As I recall, one said he had already hunted and killed 8 so far this year, he said they were hard to find and hard to kill too.

    So called "civilization" exists only in certain sections of America, in many other places in this land area noble Primitivism is still afoot .
    Well I have nothing against hunting animals if that's what you were thinking. lol

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    We have enough deadly critters in this country. We don't need to be importing them. that goes for the human kind also.

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    I couldn't even imagine the horror of finding your baby girl dead like that....that would have been one dead snake.

    Exotic pets have to be taken care of with the most extreme care...I would love to have a Komodo Dragon or even a Black Mamba....but wouldn't own it if I had kids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost Rider View Post
    I couldn't even imagine the horror of finding your baby girl dead like that....that would have been one dead snake.

    Exotic pets have to be taken care of with the most extreme care...I would love to have a Komodo Dragon or even a Black Mamba....but wouldn't own it if I had kids.


    "Black mambas are fast, nervous, lethally venomous, and when threatened, highly aggressive. They have been blamed for numerous human deaths, and African myths exaggerate their capabilities to legendary proportions. For these reasons, the black mamba is widely considered the world’s deadliest snake."

    Black Mamba, Black Mamba Profile, Facts, Information, Photos, Pictures, Sounds, Habitats, Reports, News - National Geographic

    "There are two kinds of people in this world my friend, them that own Black Mambas and them that don't."

    (Guess which category I'm in.)


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    I'll keep ya in my prayers just in case you go over the edge and actually get one of these things.

    I heard these Black Mambas were highly territorial too ? Not good. If he/she ever got outta the cage he/she might decide that your house was really his/her house.
    I ceased in the year 1764 to believe that one can convince one's opponents with arguments printed in books. It is not to do that, therefore, that I have taken up my pen, but merely so as to annoy them, and to bestow strength and courage on those on our own side, and to make it known to the others that they have not convinced us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caroline View Post
    We have enough deadly critters in this country. We don't need to be importing them. that goes for the human kind also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hectormann View Post


    "Black mambas are fast, nervous, lethally venomous, and when threatened, highly aggressive. They have been blamed for numerous human deaths, and African myths exaggerate their capabilities to legendary proportions. For these reasons, the black mamba is widely considered the world’s deadliest snake."

    Black Mamba, Black Mamba Profile, Facts, Information, Photos, Pictures, Sounds, Habitats, Reports, News - National Geographic

    "There are two kinds of people in this world my friend, them that own Black Mambas and them that don't."

    (Guess which category I'm in.)


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    I'll keep ya in my prayers just in case you go over the edge and actually get one of these things.

    I heard these Black Mambas were highly territorial too ? Not good. If he/she ever got outta the cage he/she might decide that your house was really his/her house.
    The deadlier the snake is to a human through its venom, the more likely the snake's blood can itself help cure eyesight too. So, let's kill a bunch of them. XD

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