Snake kills child

[Jack Hectormann]

Kind of. Komodo Dragons only exist natively to one place, the Komodo Island specifically. Neither any other Indonesian island. It is in fact illegal to export komodo dragons out of the island (a internationally-protected habitat, primarily by the U.S. I believe), as well illegal to import to most countries.

I obtained two Komodo Dragons by way of them wandering off in my neighbor's yard my family was watching over. What happened was my dad thought he saw a snake (since my family was into hunting and dealing with dangerous animals, from anything as small as a rattle snake to anything as big as a mountain lion (cougar) or anything in between). With the snake-catchers my dad built (a simple design actually), my dad and stepmom caught what we thought were two baby lizards of a similar breed to the komodo (in that it was a poison-spitting lizard).

One was male, the other female. I personally researched exactly what breed of lizards they were while at school, because it didn't make sense they were any native lizard to the Mojave region. Several months down the road, my dad found out they were illegal to own.

So he gave me an ultimatum, to get rid of them any means necessary. Well I decided I'd let them out in the desert so I rode my bicycle to the park, on the way there someone just pulled over noticing I had two komodo dragons. He offered $200/ea., so I took him on the offer. In hindsight, I only wish I had let the two go on their own volition into the desert as there's not a single land animal that's going to survive a fight against a komodo.

That was extreamly interesting. Exciting childhood. I see ya point 'bout [hindsight] wishing you had let them go, 'course 400 bucks is 400 bucks $$

Even while I may have killed snakes in my childhood, I still loved them all the same. There's an old saying, the most deadliest of beasts is always going to be the most beautiful.

I can understand that. Then I guess there is the thrill of the challenge, and the excitement, and some adrenaline flow connected with owning the deadly fellows. In my younger days I picked up a 1½ foot snake off a mountain road (there were 5 of us going back home/college vacation break) and held that snake for over 3 hours as we rode along. Everybody said, "Nah, I don't think he's poisonous." I'll never know. (Young and foolish)

Jack said:
The introduction of the Burmese pythons into Florida's Everglades has created some enthusiasm among the hunters there who are challenged by the hunts. That program I watched on TV interviewed some snake hunters. As I recall, one said he had already hunted and killed 8 so far this year, he said they were hard to find and hard to kill too.

So called "civilization" exists only in certain sections of America, in many other places in this land area noble Primitivism is still afoot .

Algol replied:
Well I have nothing against hunting animals if that's what you were thinking. lol

I hear ya. *grinning here* Actually what I was thinking regarding my phrase, "noble Primitivism" was that many civilized men often take on effete feminized attitudes and many become metrosexuals. Some even become androgynous creatures, mental/psychological hemaphradites, pacfists, wimps, weenies, and milquetoast jelly-fish types. Ya see 'em all over MTV and TV.

The introduction of Burmese pythons into the Florida Everglades and elsewhere around the country, actually any warm (?) state where pet owners turn Burmese pythons loose when they get to big to feed/handle, creates, shall we say, and uncivilized element of real danger. (I have read several sources that say these snakes get 16-20 feet long, can weigh up to 200+ pounds and (? > sometimes get very aggressive.)

A physical danger and real physical threat that can never be faced and combated by the soft dainty metrosexuals, who would never dare go into the Everglades and "face down the snake." A full grown Burmese python is a lot of snake for a civilized metrosexual to face down even if it invades his own backyard, say, if he was living in a sub-division not to far from the Everglades Park. And he certainly would not actually go into the Everglades himself and face down the snake, but it appears somebody is going to have to do that. A full grown Burmese python, say a 16 footer, and in an aggressive mood, is a lot of snake for a civilized metrosexual to face down even when his mother is with him .

But from what I read about these snakes they do well in warm climates and are multiplying fast and there needs to be, shall we say, men who are more the primitive warrior types to go in there and thin them out. And even with this going on, some think that soon these snakes are going to be "visiting neighborhoods" looking for food. Think about it. All these 16 + footers are not going to stay in the Everglades. There is going to be a certain number of them roaming around here and there "outside the park."

I know if I lived in the country, a town or a sub-division anywhere near the Florida Everglades, I'd keep a sharp eye peeled around my house for "vistors." And how about men with families who have little toddlers that play in their "fenced in" backyard in "safety." And as time goes on other states besides Florida will be faced with the Burmese python threat also.

So this calls for some noble primitive warrior types with guns to go into the Everglades and face down these snakes and kill them. The civilized metrosexuals are not going to do it.

Btw, this is another good reason to join and support the NRA, especially if you live in Florida anywhere near the Everglades Park . Ya need more that a hoe to face down a 16 foot Burmese python.

Thats what I meant by:

So called "civilization" exists only in certain sections of America, in many other places in this land area noble Primitivism is still afoot .

Cheers.

[Caroline]

I cannot imagine anyone wanting to own something as deadly as a mamba. Did you ever read the book, SNAKE. It's old but it was good. Black mamba released or escaped into Central Park.

[Emperor Dragon ARX]

That was extreamly interesting. Exciting childhood. I see ya point 'bout [hindsight] wishing you had let them go, 'course 400 bucks is 400 bucks $$




I can understand that. Then I guess there is the thrill of the challenge, and the excitement, and some adrenaline flow connected with owning the deadly fellows. In my younger days I picked up a 1½ foot snake off a mountain road (there were 5 of us going back home/college vacation break) and held that snake for over 3 hours as we rode along. Everybody said, "Nah, I don't think he's poisonous." I'll never know. (Young and foolish)





I hear ya. *grinning here* Actually what I was thinking regarding my phrase, "noble Primitivism" was that many civilized men often take on effete feminized attitudes and many become metrosexuals. Some even become androgynous creatures, mental/psychological hemaphradites, pacfists, wimps, weenies, and milquetoast jelly-fish types. Ya see 'em all over MTV and TV.

The introduction of Burmese pythons into the Florida Everglades and elsewhere around the country, actually any warm (?) state where pet owners turn Burmese pythons loose when they get to big to feed/handle, creates, shall we say, and uncivilized element of real danger. (I have read several sources that say these snakes get 16-20 feet long, can weigh up to 200+ pounds and (? > sometimes get very aggressive.)

A physical danger and real physical threat that can never be faced and combated by the soft dainty metrosexuals, who would never dare go into the Everglades and "face down the snake." A full grown Burmese python is a lot of snake for a civilized metrosexual to face down even if it invades his own backyard, say, if he was living in a sub-division not to far from the Everglades Park. And he certainly would not actually go into the Everglades himself and face down the snake, but it appears somebody is going to have to do that. A full grown Burmese python, say a 16 footer, and in an aggressive mood, is a lot of snake for a civilized metrosexual to face down even when his mother is with him .

But from what I read about these snakes they do well in warm climates and are multiplying fast and there needs to be, shall we say, men who are more the primitive warrior types to go in there and thin them out. And even with this going on, some think that soon these snakes are going to be "visiting neighborhoods" looking for food. Think about it. All these 16 + footers are not going to stay in the Everglades. There is going to be a certain number of them roaming around here and there "outside the park."

I know if I lived in the country, a town or a sub-division anywhere near the Florida Everglades, I'd keep a sharp eye peeled around my house for "vistors." And how about men with families who have little toddlers that play in their "fenced in" backyard in "safety." And as time goes on other states besides Florida will be faced with the Burmese python threat also.

So this calls for some noble primitive warrior types with guns to go into the Everglades and face down these snakes and kill them. The civilized metrosexuals are not going to do it.

Btw, this is another good reason to join and support the NRA, especially if you live in Florida anywhere near the Everglades Park . Ya need more that a hoe to face down a 16 foot Burmese python.

Thats what I meant by:



Cheers.

So long as I can get a free gun to kill as well eat whatever snakes I kill, I'll join the NRA AND MOVE down to Florida to hunt them. XD

[samspade]

The sad fact is that these animals do sometimes get out and hurt someone or that their owner thinks that that animal is safe to everyone but circumstances can turn these animals mean whether it is a dog to even a tiger( Siegfried and Roy) or in such a case of the chimp that torn that lady's face off.

[Emperor Dragon ARX]

The sad fact is that these animals do sometimes get out and hurt someone or that their owner thinks that that animal is safe to everyone but circumstances can turn these animals mean whether it is a dog to even a tiger( Siegfried and Roy) or in such a case of the chimp that torn that lady's face off.

Well, chimps/apes/monkeys are actually far more aggressive than even most snakes, including these burmese pythons... lol

[Caroline]

It's all very nice to be kind and tolerant of pets...but you do realize, whether it's occured to a prospective parent or not...WHEN YOU HAVE A KID, IT"S IMPORTANT TO THINK OF THOSE THINGS. sheesh.

[Emperor Dragon ARX]

It's all very nice to be kind and tolerant of pets...but you do realize, whether it's occured to a prospective parent or not...WHEN YOU HAVE A KID, IT"S IMPORTANT TO THINK OF THOSE THINGS. sheesh.

Nobody said otherwise...

[Caroline]

well, yeah. That seemed to be implied.

[Jack Hectormann]

So long as I can get a free gun to kill as well eat whatever snakes I kill, I'll join the NRA AND MOVE down to Florida to hunt them. XD

I hear ya. Least they could do would be ta give ya a free gun, and yeah we could cook 'em up and wolf 'em down. Why not. I've never ate the snake, but I hear good things . (Rattle snake meat is choice grub they say.)

By the way, just for the record, I don't actually view the Burmese python thingy in the Everglades and elsewhere as a large scale serious matter. In the grand scheme of things its probably not even on the charts as a serious threat,,,,,at least not yet.

Burmese pythons are popular—and legal—pet snakes. In the past five years, the U.S. has imported more than 144,000 Burmese pythons. Hatchlings sell for as little as U.S. $20. But once the cute little baby snakes turn into 15-foot-long (5-meter-long) beasts, some owners may decide to get rid of their pets by dumping them in the forest. "All of the Burmese pythons that we see in the park are a product of the international pet trade," said Skip Snow, a wildlife biologist at Everglades National Park.

Huge, Freed Pet Pythons Invade Florida Everglades

I guess they'll keep on importing them. Wonder how many we'll have in the United States 10 years from now roaming around here and there in the swampy areas of the warm climate states ? Maybe a whole bunch, er ?

Might end up being a challenge for the dainty civilized metrosexuals in certain areas of the country , but the good old boys in the NRA as well as all the good old down-to-earth-salt-of-the-earth rednecks around the country can handle the Burmies just fine if and when they ever show up in the backyard. lol

Meanwhile, the Burmies are just som'n to gab about 'sides politics. *grin*

Cheers.

[Emperor Dragon ARX]

I hear ya. Least they could do would be ta give ya a free gun, and yeah we could cook 'em up and wolf 'em down. Why not. I've never ate the snake, but I hear good things . (Rattle snake meat is choice grub they say.)

Yeah, snake meat is a luxury of luxuries... an old saying, "it taste like chicken - except even better!" Ok, I actually made up the 2nd half of that saying in reality. :P