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    Quote Originally Posted by Algol View Post
    1.There's always an exception to the rule, but even to that extent I would wonder how many cubs are being killed in any area first. Bears have a far better sense of their cubs' killer than most. Not to mention that bears only have become predatorial against humans when it's decades of their being threatened... either way, the general populace never has had a real clue about these or most things. It's why democracy is the worst idea ever invented. (Don't get me wrong, FC, I have nothing against us killing animals for food, self-defense, or even for trophies. Animals were solely put on this planet for our entertainment, nothing more. Just saying there's too many factors at play to point such actions to solely a predatorial stance.)

    2.As for a deer giving a bear a good fight, maybe a caribou or moose. Definitely not a regular deer, at least not in the wild anyways. A bear is smart enough to attack a deer from behind, so unless there's no overhead (cliffs, trees, hills, etc.), a deer cannot possibly defend itself. Caribou and Moose are built with the bone structure that'll allow them to give a bear a good fight.
    1. Actually, I would argue that many larger predators would attack a human baby or young child for food if the opportunity presented itself. You just don't hear about it, because people are usually smart enough not to give the predators the opportunity.
    2. Yes, regular white-tail deer. Two factors here. One is that attacking a deer from behind will invite the force of the hind legs kicking him in the head. Another is that the bear doesn't have an ego (which is why he'll run from a dog; I've seen that happen in our back yard with a bear that- although small as black bears go- could have easily torn our dog apart). He isn't out to prove that he's the meanest mutha in the forest. He's looking for the most calories for the least trouble. If a juicy fawn that he sets his sights on is tanaciously defended by a doe, he's going to think: "Geez, what am I doing here? Screw this; I'm going to Burger King."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hectormann View Post

    I'll keep ya in my prayers just in case you go over the edge and actually get one of these things.

    I heard these Black Mambas were highly territorial too ? Not good. If he/she ever got outta the cage he/she might decide that your house was really his/her house.
    Trust me, If I came home and 'Mr Slithering Death' has escaped his cage...I will burn the house down before going looking under the beds or in the closets for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hectormann View Post
    True, but sometimes, actually often, our refusal to see reason in being sensible results in beautiful, magnificient and quite heroic feats and accomplishments.

    Yes, it also often results in tradedy. I recall reading that over 400 men have been killed while climbing Mount Everest since they began to keep records, and legion is the number of accidents and deaths that men experience directly from choosing to refuse to "see reason in being sensible" in relation to: NASCAR racing, boat racing, professional boxing, professional football and hockey (there are other less dangerous ways to make a good living). Most likely all the awards given to soldiers for bravery and heroics on the battlefield were for taking high risks that most likely would not have appeared "sensible", at the time, to the feminine understanding and interpretation of the word sensible. (what the soldiers did was above and beyond the call of duty)

    But we're quite magnificient at times are we not ? Hundreds of male fire fighters racing INTO burnings buildings on 9/11 while everybody else was racing out. Yeah, it was their job, but they all died as I recall, and whether or not it was "sensible" to go into those building under the circumstances I'll let others decide.

    We men often do magnificient feats precisely because we see no reason in being sensible, and that connected with our natural male agrression and willingness to take high risks, and all that in connection with our fear of being called cowards. (Note: Feminized "men", the metrosexuals etc seemingly have no real problem with being called cowards, in fact many of them seem to revel in their new 21st c. definition of "cowardice" and "courage" and their learned and embraced femininity and feel quite at home with it, supported in it, as they are, by a large segment of the feminized male American society.)

    Back to our gender's heroics. Many of us will jump into dangerous rushing icy rivers in order to save not only our kind, but stranded dogs as well. The exploits of some of our Congressional Medal of Honor winners are almost mind-boggling. Such as single-handidly taking on large numbers of enemy troops while they were protected by machine guns nests and killing or capturing them all and taking out the machine guns nests as well. Amazing!

    Women as a rule do not choose to do such heroics as the things listed above, it does not seem to be their inclination to do these type things. We might could say that their inclination to see "reason in being sensible" discourages them from such exploits. Anyway, they, as a gender, are not known for doing such as listed above.

    Btw, I've always felt that women's willingness to become mothers and go through childbirth was a courageous and heroic act on their part, and that was especially true in past ages when lack of knowledge and medical advancements resulted in much higher rates of mortality for the mother during childbirth. But of course thats in a different area and apart from the man's inclination to take unnecessary risks and flirt with death just for the heck of it, so to speak.

    However one slices it, we men are not always easy for the lady folks to understand. I'm not even sure we fully understand ourselves. But ya gotta admit that some of us perform magnificient feats of heroism while we are laying aside seeing "reason in being sensible" and are afraid of being called cowards for having common sense.

    Some men express this characteristic of masculine nature by zooming around a race track at 200 + mph, others by single-handidly attacking a machine gun nest above and beyond the call of duty (ie they didn't have to do it in order to be good soldiers), and some by keeping deadly snakes and constrictors.

    The women folks cry, "safety" and "the children." (Some of the wives of NASCAR drivers say this same thing.)

    The men folks say, "I find it a great challenge" and "I'm gonna keep the snakes." (or keep driving NASCAR)

    The battle of the sexes continues.


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    excellent post. Maybe it helps me understand the men in my family just a jot more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caroline View Post
    excellent post. Maybe it helps me understand the men in my family just a jot more.



    Thanks Caroline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullseyed View Post
    Yeah, I didn't say to PROMOTE stupidity (aka welfare), I just said progress is made when stupidity is allowed.

    Letting your snake kill your kid is just a demonstration that you weren't a fit parent to begin with.
    I got that. I was merely expanding on it :D
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