Gay right issues

[OSUPhantom]

You said it was not being forced in Mass, I proved you wrong. Keep back peddling. Like most things you start with 1 school then move it to more schools. The fact that parents can not OPT out is a serious issue. If you can not see that as indoctrination your blinded by your ideology. I would be just as offended if they tried the same thing in 1 school with anything I support. No school should have more say into how I raise my children then I do.

Please post the line in the Constitution where is says a man can marry a man and a woman can marry a woman. You made the claim now back it up.

You are a complete hypocrite. What gives you the right to force your views that incest is wrong while homosexuality is right? There are many men and women who can not have children, using your arguments they should be allowed to marry even if they are family.

I made the OSU crack as a joke. You know one college fan cracking on another. I happen to be a Mizzou fan (wrestling more so then football). By the way I went to Stanford, just a tad higher on the evolutionary college ladder then OSU.

And just for the record my stance on gay marriage is that like most things its a states rights issue, not a Federal issue.

The school issue is one to be handled by each school committee, if you don't like what they are teaching don't blame gay people, blame the school boards, don't scapegoat the gay rights movement.

I regards to the Constitution: Amendment 9: "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people." It states that the rights that have not been put into the hand of the government shall not be infringed upon. Is not the right of equality or pursuit of happiness an unmerated right?

Also, my apologies about the college thing, I was up earlier than I like to and had a bad night last night. I flew off the handle I for that I apologize.

[fishoutofwater]

Oh my....I feel so ashamed, some nutjob has insulted my school...I would LOVE to see you try and get in here. I said it was not being taught widespread in MA schools, it's being taught in A SCHOOL. Trying to characterize a persons constitutional rights to equality as the same as incest is just plain stupid. Secondly, denying someone their rights because we are afraid of giving these god-given rights frankly makes you sound like a Democrat. Finally, the idea of being happy with civil unions is frankly laughable; "seperate but equal" was decided unconstitutional long ago....everyone needs to be allowed marriage or no one can. There is no seperate but equal here, sorry.

If you think that it is NOT being taught in schools across the country, you are living under a rock or you are simply lieing to make your point. Here is an excerpt from an article at the below link:

In 2000, a parent audio-taped a GLSEN-sponsored conference in Massachusetts in which three state health and education employees led a youth workshop called "What They Didn't Tell You About Queer Sex and Sexuality in Health Class."

You can read the whole article at the following link:

FOXNews.com - Critics Slam 'Gay Agenda' in Public Schools - Politics | Republican Party | Democratic Party | Political Spectrum

Why not just have "gay" schools and leave the rest of our kids out of it?

And what about what I said earlier? It is ok for a parent to have their kid sit out during Flag Salute, but a parent cannot sit their kid out of a "gay tolerance" workshop? There is something absolutely wrong with that picture.

[Dacabeti]

The school issue is one to be handled by each school committee, if you don't like what they are teaching don't blame gay people, blame the school boards, don't scapegoat the gay rights movement.

I regards to the Constitution: Amendment 9: "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people." It states that the rights that have not been put into the hand of the government shall not be infringed upon. Is not the right of equality or pursuit of happiness an unmerated right?

Also, my apologies about the college thing, I was up earlier than I like to and had a bad night last night. I flew off the handle I for that I apologize.

The school issue is a parental right issue. I have no issue with knowledge being taught by schools but I do have issues with schools teaching my child what they should accept as moral; that is my job as a parent. If it was not for gays pushing this agenda the school in question would not be pushing it either.

Constitution: Amendment 9: "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people." Again a state rights issue. Its not spelled out by the Constitution then it is a state right issue.

Apology accepted. IF we can't give each other flack about colleges we are too far gone.

[OSUPhantom]

The school issue is a parental right issue. I have no issue with knowledge being taught by schools but I do have issues with schools teaching my child what they should accept as moral; that is my job as a parent. If it was not for gays pushing this agenda the school in question would not be pushing it either.

Constitution: Amendment 9: "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people." Again a state rights issue. Its not spelled out by the Constitution then it is a state right issue.

Apology accepted. IF we can't give each other flack about colleges we are too far gone.

Most of the times when I recieve flack about OSU it's because of the athletics...something that became much more apparent after our shameful loss to Purdue....

[JewishConservative]

For those in support of gay marriage...why is it ok for you to push your beliefs on me and my children? The morals of this country are all but gone. It is amazing to me that it has happened in my lifetime. My grandma was so much smarter than what I gave her credit for when I was young.
Here are the simple facts: gay marriage is not what everyone is so against...it is what comes with it - churches and priests, ministers, etc sued for not performing a wedding between those of the same sex. Christian schools sued for not allowing gay behavior on cdampus. Gay lifestyle being taught in school, and don't say it won't happen, cause it is happening in Mass. It is not so much the marriage, as the doors it opens. It is about knocking down the walls of morality one brick at a time. Here is a little gem that someone emailed me. This video from Planned Parenthood completely illustrates where this country is headed as far as what is becoming acceptable. THIS is what they are aiming at our kids...it is just short of pornographic. There are like 7 or 8 short (less than a minute) videos on teaching our teens how to have safe sex, and how to have sex in general...and it covers the whole gamet - from masturbation, to guys giving each other bj's without a condom.
I, for one, am never going to be ok with children in school being taught an agenda.

Agreed,

[SuddenImpact]

For those in support of gay marriage...why is it ok for you to push your beliefs on me and my children? The morals of this country are all but gone. It is amazing to me that it has happened in my lifetime. My grandma was so much smarter than what I gave her credit for when I was young.
Here are the simple facts: gay marriage is not what everyone is so against...it is what comes with it - churches and priests, ministers, etc sued for not performing a wedding between those of the same sex. Christian schools sued for not allowing gay behavior on cdampus. Gay lifestyle being taught in school, and don't say it won't happen, cause it is happening in Mass. It is not so much the marriage, as the doors it opens. It is about knocking down the walls of morality one brick at a time. Here is a little gem that someone emailed me. This video from Planned Parenthood completely illustrates where this country is headed as far as what is becoming acceptable. THIS is what they are aiming at our kids...it is just short of pornographic. There are like 7 or 8 short (less than a minute) videos on teaching our teens how to have safe sex, and how to have sex in general...and it covers the whole gamet - from masturbation, to guys giving each other bj's without a condom.
I, for one, am never going to be ok with children in school being taught an agenda.

I'm not okay with it. But everyone deserves the same rights and privileges under the law. I don't even support the public school system, so of course I don't support forced morality education in them.

However - I have to wonder how much of this is actually true. I've known several kids in MA who say they never learned that sort of stuff in school, OSU foremost among them. But if my heartfellows have done something like that, I'm sorry for it.

[Rightwing Nutjob]

Suds!! Hi :D

[SuddenImpact]

Suds!! Hi :D

HI CASHEW *throws arms around*

O_O How did you find me? I posted that like three seconds ago.

[Rightwing Nutjob]

I saw your name on the post when I clicked "New Posts." How's life?

On edit: Never mind. I see you posted in the intro section.

[Livia]

First of all, this country, whether people like it or not, was built on Christian beliefs by Christian men. If you don't like it or it's traditions, LEAVE!! The Bible says being gay is a sin. I am most certainly not homophobic, I don't hate gay people, and I certainly don't judge. I would NEVER mistreat someone for their sexual preference or think less of them. I hate the sin, not the sinner.

Now that I have said that...I do NOT think we should allow gay marriage for the simple fact that I see it as a gateway to much more perverse and sinful things. Not just having to do with homosexuality, but other things as well.

Also, I would like to say that marriage isn't a *right*. It is a covenant between a man, a woman, and God. As far as I am concerned, EVERY SINGLE PERSON whether gay, straight, black, white, female, male, or all of the above are born with the same RIGHTS as everyone else. No where in the first 10 ammendments does it talk about marriage.