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Old 10-15-2008, 03:03 PM
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Old 10-15-2008, 03:08 PM
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Good for Canada... at least they are smart enough to know what is right for them..
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Old 10-15-2008, 03:31 PM
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Even though Canada's conservatives are still pretty moderate. :P
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Old 10-15-2008, 07:58 PM
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At best we'll have Canadian style conservative government here after the election.
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Old 10-15-2008, 08:03 PM
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Hey Viking hows gun rights up there? I am clueless about Canada except for watching CBC every now and then. And Is the Canadian Conservative like US Conservative?
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Old 10-15-2008, 09:19 PM
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It's really nothing like the US. To tell you the truth, I've never really looked into it. We do have gun clubs & shooting ranges, although nothing to the degree you guys have. I actually have considered joining a gun club up here. You can't get a concealed weapons permit, though.

And thanks for the congratulations all. I've kept pretty quiet about the election up here, because the more I talk about it, the more I get ticked off at the dumba$$e$ who vote for the Liberal Party. Yes, that is actually their name.

The big thing the Lib's used as their campain platform was the idea of a carbon tax. Basically, it would be a tax on non-green energy sources. It's supposed to be revenue neutral, except what they don't tell you is that the companies that aren't "green" (i.e. trucking industries, oil and gas heat) would get taxed. Guess who they will end up passing the tax increases on to ?. We would supposedly get an income tax break, but even the Lib's weren't saying how they were going to implement it. It was an unworkable idea, and there wasn't anything in the plan to reduce greenhouse gases, not that I give $.02 worth about THAT.

That, and the fact that the Liberals leader was pretty much unable to carry on a conversation in English finished it for them.

The Conservatives didn't get a majority in parliment because of Quebec. The BQ, a political party that only runs candidates in Quebec won too many seats. They only run candidates in Quebec, like I said, so they can concentrate all of their resources in that "province". All the other parties are spread across the country. Do you guys want a 51 state ?.

The NDP, or New Democratic Party is a socialist group, even more liberal than the Liberals. They got about 35 seats and are too far out to ever be a real threat, but the do end up getting enough seats to potentially hold the sway vote.

The Greens are a bunch of envirowacko's who have never won a seat. They did have a member of parliment, but that guy was kicked out of the Liberal party & was offered a membership in the Greens. He did NOT win again this past election.
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Old 10-15-2008, 09:21 PM
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At best we'll have Canadian style conservative government here after the election.
Bwah, hah, hah, haaaaaa. Then our master plan will be complete.
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Old 10-15-2008, 09:24 PM
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Hey Viking hows gun rights up there? I am clueless about Canada except for watching CBC every now and then. And Is the Canadian Conservative like US Conservative?
I don't think so. Our brand of conservativism is closer to centre (note the Canadian spelling of center) than yours is. I like to think of myself as being pretty far right, compared to most Canadians.
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Old 10-16-2008, 09:35 AM
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Hey Viking hows gun rights up there? I am clueless about Canada except for watching CBC every now and then. And Is the Canadian Conservative like US Conservative?
As I understand it, Canadians can't even get handguns anymore, and haven't been able to for something like a couple of decades.

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Old 10-16-2008, 11:20 AM
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Here's what I found. I was curious too.
quoted by the Coalition for gun control:



Prohibited Firearm[/b]: Fully automatic military assault weapons, semi-automatics which can be converted to automatics, along with a few other selected models not suitable for hunting or target shooting, short-barreled handguns, sawed-off shotguns and large capacity magazines. In most cases, the previous owners of these weapons were grandfathered when the prohibitions went into effect, in lieu of financial compensation.

Licensing Requirements: Under the Firearms Act, all firearm owners will require a license to possess or acquire by the year 2001 (renewable every five years). Standard safety checks will be performed to ensure that the individual does not pose a risk to public safety. Under current regulations, spouses and previous spouses with whom the applicant has lived within the last two years. will also be notified of the individuals’ application. If someone with a license becomes violent or commits a crime that would make them illegible to own firearms, the Chief Firearms Officer will be able to revoke the license.

Registration Requirements: Under the new Firearms Act, all firearms must be registered (by the year 2003). New firearms will be registered at their point of sale and imported firearms will be registered at their point of entry. Every registration certificate will have a Firearms Identification Number (FIN). For firearms which do not have a unique identifier (those which have no serial number or have a serial number that, with the other characteristics of the firearm, still doesn’t identify them from every other gun), these are assigned a FIN which is affixed to the frame or received of the firearm. However, according to expert opinion at the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, at least 80% of firearms can be uniquely identified for the purpose of registration. A range of technologies are available for identifying weapons which lack serial numbers including invisible labeling (often used for identifying other valuables). The duplication or absence of serial numbers is not considered to be a serious impediment to proceeding and will be resolved over time as pressure is brought to bear on manufacturers to ensure their products conform with national standards.

Storage Requirements: Firearms must be stored unloaded, with the ammunition separate. For handguns and other restricted weapons, the firearms must be stored in a locked container, unloaded and made inoperable (trigger locked), with the ammunition stored separately.

Training Requirements: All license applicants must take the Canadian Firearms Safety Course and/or pass the test for the course, or show by some other approved means that they know about firearms laws and safety practices.

Penalties[/b]:

mandatory 4 years for serious offenses with a firearm
mandatory 1 year for a stolen weapon
criminal sanctions for non-compliance with license or registration but first-time offense is punishable by summary conviction with up to a $2000 fine and 6 months in jail. However, law enforcement have discretionary powers in enforcing the law, depending on the motive.

Has this law changed?
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