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    Obama will work to end the threat, if not, once the attacks start coming, they will not stop. And no it's not because of Bush.

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    I don't see anything wrong with talking to Ahmadinejad, but as McCain said you can't just waltz in there without some conditions on the table. Otherwise, you'll get just into a one-sided argument and make tensions worse.

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    If they attack, don't let it be within the next like 3 months, I fractured my ankle and now I can't run or walk, I've got crutches, so I can't lay down my life just yet.

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    The Roots of the Iranian Cult of Martyrdom and the Threat it Poses

    Although the tradition of martyrdom, or shaheed (literally meaning “witness”), reaches back to antiquity, the Iranian cult of martyrdom as we know it today began in the early 1970’s through the teachings of Ali Shariati. Influenced by Marxist thought he sought to correct what he felt was the single gretest threat to Iran and Shia Islam, gharbzadegi or occidentosis. This term refers to a loss of Iranian identity through the influx of western ideas and influence, most noteably the United States, Israel, and Western Europe. He sought to remedy this by redefining traditional Shia’ism in strictly Iranian terms, what he defines “Red Shia’ism". Through Shariati’s writings and lectures the classical interpretation of the martyrdom of the Third Imam, Husayn ibn Ali, was redefined. To Shariati Husayn’s death at the hands of the reigning Calipf, Yazid ibn Muawiyah ibn Abu Sufyan represented the oppressed rising up against the oppressor in defense of “the true form of Islam.” Shariati held up the martyrdom of Husayn as the perfect example of piety and encouraged all Iranians to rise up in his spirit and emulate his sacrifice in the defense of Islam. Shariati coined the phrase popular durring the 1979 Islamic revolution, "everyday is Ashoura, every place is Karbala.” which remains popular to this day. By using Marxist theories coupled with a fundamentalist interpretation if Shia traditions Shariati produced a worldview wholly Iranian in nature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Angry Capitalist View Post
    Although the tradition of martyrdom, or shaheed (literally meaning “witness”), reaches back to antiquity, the Iranian cult of martyrdom as we know it today began in the early 1970’s through the teachings of Ali Shariati. Influenced by Marxist thought he sought to correct what he felt was the single gretest threat to Iran and Shia Islam, gharbzadegi or occidentosis. This term refers to a loss of Iranian identity through the influx of western ideas and influence, most noteably the United States, Israel, and Western Europe. He sought to remedy this by redefining traditional Shia’ism in strictly Iranian terms, what he defines “Red Shia’ism". Through Shariati’s writings and lectures the classical interpretation of the martyrdom of the Third Imam, Husayn ibn Ali, was redefined. To Shariati Husayn’s death at the hands of the reigning Calipf, Yazid ibn Muawiyah ibn Abu Sufyan represented the oppressed rising up against the oppressor in defense of “the true form of Islam.” Shariati held up the martyrdom of Husayn as the perfect example of piety and encouraged all Iranians to rise up in his spirit and emulate his sacrifice in the defense of Islam. Shariati coined the phrase popular durring the 1979 Islamic revolution, "everyday is Ashoura, every place is Karbala.” which remains popular to this day. By using Marxist theories coupled with a fundamentalist interpretation if Shia traditions Shariati produced a worldview wholly Iranian in nature.

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    Only Iran was not originally a Muslim state - they became Muslim by infiltration and conquest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Susanna View Post
    Only Iran was not originally a Muslim state - they became Muslim by infiltration and conquest.
    The Muslim Arabs invaded Persia and made it a Muslim state. They really weren't a Muslim state until the Ayatolla Komeini came to power after the last revolution.
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    Islam is a religion of murder and violence as practiced by Islamofascists. The rest of the Muslims are just too afraid of the Islamofascists to say much about it. The MSM ignores the ones that do.

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    Technically it wasn't until the overthrow of the Shah in 1979 that it became a Muslim State. Before then, it was a Monarchy.

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    Iran became and Islamic state in 1979, but it embrasced Islam durring the Islamic Conquest of Persia (637-651). It embraced Shia'ism durring the the Safavid dynasty. It is the home of the largest Shia population in the world. In the Islamic community Shia'ism is synomous with Iran. It harbors the majority of the world's Shia's and is ruled by the most fundamentalist of the fundamentalist Islamicist in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warpig View Post
    Well it never really goes away does it......................

    Referring to the US army’s attacks in Pakistan and Syria, Larijani said they would not be answered with diplomatic protests.
    “The US method and conduct, expressed by this aggression, will only be stopped by a clear-cut and unexpected response, whose grounds were set by the martyr Hussein Fahmida,” Larijani said during a parliamentary session on Wednesday.
    Fahmida was 13 when he detonated an explosive device he carried on him, destroying an Iraqi tank during the Iran-Iraq War in the 1980s.
    “America should be aware not to put its huge body on top of the suicide bombers’ explosive devices,” Larijani said.
    Larijani was not alone yesterday in Iranian verbal volleys against the US. Supreme leader Ali Khamanai spoke less literally when he warned nations who didn’t respect Iran’s independence that they would “have their hands cut off”. Khamanai said that reconciliation between Iran and the US would not be possible because Iranians hate America too much, presumably because of our opposition to the ruling mullahcracy and our support of the Shah — although the latter occurred before most Iranians were alive.
    That can't be because the liberals claim the Muslims are peaceful loving people. So I'm sure we won't have to worry about any further Muslim terrorist attacks.

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