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    Umm, quite some interesting opinions I've read about concerning Michael's death. I will point out first that it is rather unfortunate that the entertainment industry has lost two big names in the same day. I'm not going to defend Michael concerning the child molestation cases, but I will have my say when it comes to his career. While it was a bit sidetracked by all of the allegations and other problems including his family as well as his kids, he was a cultural icon. Not to worry, any albums that come out as a tribute to him will be eaten by the fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dee View Post
    I'm anti-abortion. Just pro capital punishment, and pro karma. ;)

    It's very different to take the life of an innocent unborn baby than to kill some child molester.

    Personally, child molesters and rapists IMO should be physically castrated.
    As in chopping block.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RET423 View Post
    I wonder if Comedy Central will play the "The Jefferson's" South Park episode tonight in honor of his passing.

    It was a classic.

    That was a very funny episode.

    Well, at least know we can have a couple of days off from having our great leader in the headlines. Honestly, I'm having Obama burnout already, the gushing coverage is sickening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samspade View Post
    I turn on the TV and see that that nut case Al Sharpton managed to get himself some media attention over this. Of course he is saying that Michael was treated unfairly for being a child molester.
    That's cause life and death aren't exactly pro - Affirmative Action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newshutr View Post
    I don't need, nor do I want, your worship. I do not conceive of myself even close to a deity, as you Paulbots consider Congressman Gyno.

    Now, let's get back on topic and gloat over the death of a pedophile, k?
    I'll simply point out that I didn't bring Ron Paul into any of this.

    And with that, I'm not checking this thread again. Not to gloat over a death nor to attempt to persuade knowledge out of an empty tank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_conservative_otaku View Post
    Umm, quite some interesting opinions I've read about concerning Michael's death. I will point out first that it is rather unfortunate that the entertainment industry has lost two big names in the same day. I'm not going to defend Michael concerning the child molestation cases, but I will have my say when it comes to his career. While it was a bit sidetracked by all of the allegations and other problems including his family as well as his kids, he was a cultural icon. Not to worry, any albums that come out as a tribute to him will be eaten by the fans.
    Between Michael Jackson and Barry Manilow, I find MJ to be even more torturous to listen to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    I'll simply point out that I didn't bring Ron Paul into any of this.

    And with that, I'm not checking this thread again. Not to gloat over a death nor to attempt to persuade knowledge out of an empty tank.
    And none of us were gloating or brought up pro-life issues at any time.

    Now go fap yourself silly at Stormfront..

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOperative View Post
    That was a very funny episode.

    Well, at least know we can have a couple of days off from having our great leader in the headlines. Honestly, I'm having Obama burnout already, the gushing coverage is sickening.
    That is one of my favorite episodes!!!
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    I am saddened by his passing.

    Even though I am aware of the charges of pedophilia against him I understand him better than many because I spent three decades in the world he grew up in. Consider the following.

    He was born to a couple who were in the Jenovah's Witnesses. His father was by acconts very domineering and even possibly abusive in a religion where the husband is head of the house and can do pretty much whatever he wants to his wife and children without fear of church discipline. Wife beating and child molestation were, and often still are, swept under the rug to protect the image of the organization. That often happens in religions which are as controling and insular as the Witnesses. Think that over because I dare not post the obvious possibilities.

    Another thing about the Witnesses is that at the time Mr. Jackson decided to train his boys for and pusrue for them a successful career in entertainment his decision was a big no-no as far as the Watchtower was concerned, period. Already successful celeberties who decided to convert to that faith were required to give up their careers and use their wealth to pursue the "full-time" door to door preaching, no xceptions. Those already in were highly discouraged from netering lucrative careers such as the entertainment industry and sports. Even more so, they were also highly discouraged from entering college to gain the chance at better paying jobs. At the time Michael was born the organization even often discouraged youths from finishing highschool.

    So add to the alledged abuse from Michael's father the ostrcism his family likely endured because of their pursuit of fame and fortune an the picture isn't very pretty. It was enough to warp most anybody. I write this not to excuse any sin or crime he may have comitted but to explain. I've been there because when I decided to get a post- highschool education I and my family were informally ostarcized as well.

    Michael and his families became trailblazers in that they demonstrated that one could defy the edicts of the organization in that area and remain in the organization if one chose, though most of them endedc up leaving it anyway. And at least one of them to join the Black Muslims wh are every bi as controlling as the Watchtower.

    Since then others have trod the same path which before had been closed, such as Selena and the Williams sisters. And that despite Serena posing nude for sports illustrated, something which would earn most sisters in the organization a disfellowshiping so fat their head would spin off. Celebereties such as Prince have been allowed to keep their careers. So Michael and his family have done something positive in that regard.

    Michael's life spun out of control after he lost his grounding, his faith. It is rumored among the Witnesses that just about the time of the release of the album Thriller the governing body of the Watchtower, the JW equivalent of the Poped and the college of cardinals, approached him and tried to dictate what sort of music and videos he could do. The details have never come out but I nderstand that he dissociated himself from the Witnesses because he and the church leaders couldn't come to an mutual agreement on the issue. Then, as now, one who does that is dead as far as tr other witnesses are concerned. They are not even allowed to acknowledge such a person exists even if they encounter them face to face on thr street.

    The Witnesses are taught that those cast out of the faith or who leave itare already judged as dea by God and will die at Armaggedon or not receive a ressurrection if they die. Since Michael fervently believed that, he ended up losing whatever moral compass he had and his life spun out of control resulting in his bizzare behavior. That often happens to those cast out of the JWs. It's just that Michael's fame made the sad results a very public spectacle, some which doesn't happen with most since they have little or no fame or money.

    So I am saddened by his passing and pity the man as well. He never found the grounding he needed to live a normal life. I also refuse to judge him as that is God's job and not mine. Recall that in his sermon on the mountwe are encouraged not to judge others lest we receive an adverse judgement ourselves.

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    As T.O. said, at least it's a break from the Obaminations going on.

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