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    Quote Originally Posted by Volk View Post
    I was stating why the government is against it, not my view. We have a rivalry; American influence will be combatted everywhere, just as the US tries to gain influence in Russian allies. That's all there really is to the opposition of this system, besides possibly worry about the radar thing, but I would think that's secondary.
    See, I've looked into the radar thing your government proposed. There were/are some issues with it and I'm not surprised on a turn-down.

    1) How the U.S. thinks missile defense works vs. how Russia thinks missile defense works is different.
    2) In order to integrate it into our systems, we would have to share with you all a lot more about how our systems work. Considering our governments relations with each other... I wouldn't exactly be sure that would be very wise on our part to give your government such technical details.
    3) Even if we decided to do it, that station you all proposed was old. I've heard it would have trouble tracking to the precision that we would need, that and I've "heard" that radar imits radiation. I can't verify that part though...

    I found this picture of the command center of that radar station.


    Are those ROTARY phones there? Look at that control panel. I mean YIKES. It looks like a control panel out of the original star trek.

    I dunno Volk, but it seems to me this seemed more a move on your governments part to score political points, or possibly get more information on our stuff. I think I would have declined as well. We would need to be friends in a lot more ways than just missile defense agreements before I would be willing to more forward with this sort of thing jointly.
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    Volk .. a general question, but I'd be interested in clarification from you.

    Why does Russia still seek to combat US influence ? I mean .. if the Soviet Union truly is dead, if imperialistic aims and ambitions have gone the way of the dodo .. why, precisely, DOES Russia care about who allies with, is friends with, who gets on with, America ??

    Either Soviet interests are dead, or .. they aren't. And, if they survive, surely this means that the old Soviet mentality still rules you .. therefore requiring a defensive posture to be ranged against you, because YOU make that necessary.

    International relations between a Nation State and America are the business of those two countries. Why would so-called NON-imperialistic Russia care .. on what basis ?

    And if your answer has to do with militaristic issues of any sort .. well, all America has ever done is to build and deploy DEFENSIVE systems. If you'd like to argue that modern-day Russia has no interest in being an aggressor and threatening people, then no amount of defensive preparedness or allegiance(s) should bother you at all.

    So why would it .. ever .. ??


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