The Bush Years in Retrospect

[joebrown1211]

largest tax relief in a generation
- reduced crime rates
- more airport and homeland security
- free elections in Iraq
- increased aid to genocide and disease victims
- conservative judges appointed
- more healthcare coverage
- largest national debt in history ( until now )
- increased corruption in government
- mismanagement of the war in Iraq


as you can see, Bush did some good things, but also some bad things

i agree 100 percent.

[whiterabbit]

- largest tax relief in a generation - but no spending offsets, leading to huge deficits as mentioned below. Gov't still bloated when he left
- reduced crime rates
- more airport and homeland security - would have happened under anyones watch considering 9/11. Just say kept America safe last 7 yrs.
- free elections in Iraq - and Saddam Hussein gone, but it cost 4600 American lives and was based on bad intel
- increased aid to genocide and disease victims
- conservative judges appointed
- more healthcare coverage - not really and the cost to those already covered increased significantly, both to businesses and individuals
- largest national debt in history ( until now )
- increased corruption in government - over which admin? How is this measured?
- mismanagement of the war in Iraq - yes, early on, but the surge reversed all that.


as you can see, Bush did some good things, but also some bad things. Definitely a mixed bag with ol' GW. If the MSM was conservative vs liberal, his approval rating would have been higher but maybe not enough to prevent what happened in November. Maybe, but who knows.

...and my 2 centavos in red.

[Bullseyed]

0- largest tax relief in a generation
1- reduced crime rates
2- more airport and homeland security
3- free elections in Iraq
4- increased aid to genocide and disease victims
5- conservative judges appointed
6- more healthcare coverage
7- largest national debt in history ( until now )
8- increased corruption in government
9- mismanagement of the war in Iraq


as you can see, Bush did some good things, but also some bad things.

0.) Yeah, tax policy was good.
1.) Crime rates have nothing to do with the President.
2.) Yep, but the borders are not protected so it doesn't much matter.
3.) If only Iran and North Korea would have been next.
4.) Eh, more Congressional than Presidential.
5.) For now. In the past we've had judges turn on the bench. Roberts seems good though.
6.) What does health care have to go with the government?
7.) Largest national debt preObama, perhaps. Largest dollar worth and largest economic growth plus modern wartime makes this situation unable to be compared to the past really.
8.) Cite? Liberals in Congress with money in their freezer wasn't really Bush's fault. Pretty sure there was more corruption under Clinton anyway.
9.) Not really. Only mistake they ever really made was dissolving the Iraqi army. Even then, that was misjudged, not mismanaged. Didn't have the effect that was expected.

[joebrown1211]

hey, i've got a question. i know this probably isn't the thread, but still..
i'd like to know what everyone thinks about the personell under bush. dick cheney, colin powell, scott something, (forgot his last name, sorry) karl rove, micheal brown, alberto gonzales, scooter libby, condeleeza rice, ect.

i've got my own opinions on each, but what do you guys think? i don't mean to take over the thread, but they are controversial and they did contribute quite a bit to bush's policies and the perception of his policies.

[zoomer]

I got a question that bugs me, maybe someone here can help to explain

Fox News slogan "Fair and Balanced". Every thing that is said on that channel

is geared to just a Conservative view point. I dont see other News Networks

haveing the need to lean towards a slogan- that contradicts itself. daily.

Can someone explain this simple out of place slogan "Fair and Balanced...

thing just doesnt make sense.

[mborgia]

I got a question that bugs me, maybe someone here can help to explain

Fox News slogan "Fair and Balanced". Every thing that is said on that channel

is geared to just a Conservative view point. I dont see other News Networks

haveing the need to lean towards a slogan- that contradicts itself. daily.

Can someone explain this simple out of place slogan "Fair and Balanced...

thing just doesnt make sense.

That's actually pretty easy. If you lean to the left long enough with your eyes closed, you will eventually think you are standing straight up (anatomically it is because the fluid in your inner ears comes to rest, politically it is due to ignorance or apathy). But when you are brought back to vertical, you tend to think you are leaning right. Such is the misconception of many liberals towards Fox News. Since it does not lean left, it seems as though it leans right. But in fact, it is exactly what it's slogan says it is. Fair And Balanced.

[mborgia]

0.) Yeah, tax policy was good.
1.) Crime rates have nothing to do with the President.
2.) Yep, but the borders are not protected so it doesn't much matter.
3.) If only Iran and North Korea would have been next.
4.) Eh, more Congressional than Presidential.
5.) For now. In the past we've had judges turn on the bench. Roberts seems good though.
6.) What does health care have to go with the government?
7.) Largest national debt preObama, perhaps. Largest dollar worth and largest economic growth plus modern wartime makes this situation unable to be compared to the past really.
8.) Cite? Liberals in Congress with money in their freezer wasn't really Bush's fault. Pretty sure there was more corruption under Clinton anyway.
9.) Not really. Only mistake they ever really made was dissolving the Iraqi army. Even then, that was misjudged, not mismanaged. Didn't have the effect that was expected.

Number four was a presidential initiative unique to the Bush Administration.

National debt: No deficit under Bush exceeded 3.0% of GDP, which is considered an economic red line.

[EthanLeeVita]

All major media companies are biased. I don't think Fox is conservative so much as neoconservative.

[Bullseyed]

Number four was a presidential initiative unique to the Bush Administration.

National debt: No deficit under Bush exceeded 3.0% of GDP, which is considered an economic red line.

All he can do is sign it if Congress passes it really. Much more of a party thing than something a single person can accomplish in government.

Yeah, I'm just saying even if it was higher, it wouldn't matter, he had more important things to deal with than any other president has in a long time.

[Arion45]

Bush's presidency was not horrible. It was depicted as horrible by the leftist MSM, who are still drooling over Obama.

Yes it was horrible. It was so bad the American people overwhelming went democrat. Senate, Congress and President all Dems. You are probably one of the last people in the country that still likes what he did.