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Old 06-09-2009, 09:34 PM
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When Rape Fantasies Involve Conservative Women, Feminists Are Silent

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Last week, ten women were the subject of a cyber-rape. That is, without their consent, they were subjected to one misogynist, Guy Cimbalo, and his rape fantasies, which appeared in his Playboy article titled “Ten Conservative Women I’d Like To Hate F***.” (The article has since been taken down.)
Perhaps you think “cyber-rape” is extreme. But consider what was said about Mary Katherine Ham:
You get this one pregnant, she stays pregnant. Karma’s a b****, isn’t it?
Implying that she wouldn’t want a baby resulting from rape, but because of her belief system, she’d have the child. Of course, she would deserve this treatment and fate, because Ham is pro-life. Carrying the baby would be karmic retribution for holding her disagreeable belief.
Cimbalo says of Amanda Carpenter:
She is also a columnist at TownHall, a website for illiterates who disprove evolution by their very existence.
She has been dealing with the fallout all week. Amanda Carpenter shared that on Monday — instead of working — she had to explain the controversy to her male coworkers. She said it was embarrassing and distracting.

So imagine, if you will, that the list consisted of liberal women bloggers. Imagine if Amanda Marcotte, Jane Hamsher, Jill from Feministe, and some of the more vocal feminist bloggers made up the list. Right now, they’re all upset over a National Review caricature of Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor. (It’s called satire. Remember this?)


First, the list would never be made. Why? Because Playboy considers liberal women to be sympathetic compatriots. Ironically enough, they’re on the same team.


Second, the outrage would be vocal and ubiquitous. Playboy made the miscalculation of assuming that conservative men are misogynistic pigs and, yes, sent the press release to them. They thought they would have a friendly audience that would link back.


Did liberal men bloggers get the list? Probably not, but Playboy would have found more sympathy with them. As conservative women know, the most vicious attacks come from leftist male bloggers. Spending some time in the comment section of an opinionated conservative woman blogger will curl toes. It’s not for the faint of heart.



So a rape-fantasy list is fine for a “venom-spewing” woman. That’s right. Most women don’t deserve rape except for the ones who “have it coming.” You know, the girls wearing short skirts, they kinda ask for it.


It’s nice to see a modern feminist clarify her position. Cyber-rape is fine for some people.


Most feminist women did what they abhor the most: they remained silent.
Rather than coming to the defense of the sisterhood, feminist writers and bloggers turned their heads. Conservative women get what they have coming. They aren’t sisters anyway. They are women who have the nerve to disagree with the “real” women. Real women have one central belief and that is the right to abortion.


Ray Cimbalo committed the crime that the Playboy editors and public relations department set up. Feminist women watched the crime from the sidelines and did nothing. They remained silent. Feminist men defended the cyber-rape.


Meanwhile, besides the women on the list and other conservative women media members (Megyn Kelly, Michelle Malkin, Elizabeth Blakney, the Smart Girls ladies, etc.), who presented the most vociferous defense?


Conservative men. That’s right. Conservative men wrote ardently for of the attacked women. Ed Driscoll, John Hawkins, Ed Morrissey, Caleb Howe, Allahpundit, Jim Treacher. One liberal man likely lost his job for decrying Playboy’s misogynistic actions.


The feminist women remain silent. I don’t expect them to find their voices anytime soon. These are the same women who defended Bill Clinton’s sexual harassment and blamed the victims. These are the same women who savaged Sarah Palin based on her hair, her clothes, and her choice to have a special needs child. And now, these are the women who stand by and watch other women get attacked because they are beautiful and believe differently. The feminists say nothing.


The fact is, feminists want conservative women muzzled. And evidently, even cyber-rape is an acceptable way to silence their ideological opposition. Duly noted.
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Old 06-09-2009, 10:54 PM
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Such as this (and this is just the tip of the iceberg) is why I reached the conclusion quite some time ago that reason and logic has nothing to do with the culture war going on between liberals and Conservatives. Liberals use logic and reason (and the consistency that should spring from logic and reason) as a tool to be used when its to their advantage, and when logic, reason, and consistency is to their disadvantage they ignore them and remain silent, or just brazenly embrace irrationality.

"We'll do or say, or not do or say, anything we have to, in order to win", is the liberal motto. Like Attila the Hun and Genghis Khan did, not with swords, but with the truth. Logic and reason to the liberals are nothing but tools to be twisted to suit their battle needs of the moment.

The liberals are the cultural equivelent of Genghis Khan.

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Old 06-10-2009, 01:04 AM
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What's amazing is the volumes that liberals will write and "logically" identify as support for their stances. On a mailing list that I'm I recently commented on a Hill article about Palin saying that it wasn't new that she's ticking off the DC Elite.

One of the libs launched back with a three-screen rant which included a quote that I didn't bother to verify attributed to her about HIV in Africa and he drew the vitriolic statement that it wasn't abstinence that had contributed to the decline, rather condoms.

Simply put, the only victims are the liberals. Conservatives are fair game and as you say, they will use anything to make their point.
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Old 06-10-2009, 03:21 AM
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What's amazing is the volumes that liberals will write and "logically" identify as support for their stances. On a mailing list that I'm I recently commented on a Hill article about Palin saying that it wasn't new that she's ticking off the DC Elite.

One of the libs launched back with a three-screen rant which included a quote that I didn't bother to verify attributed to her about HIV in Africa and he drew the vitriolic statement that it wasn't abstinence that had contributed to the decline, rather condoms.

Simply put, the only victims are the liberals. Conservatives are fair game and as you say, they will use anything to make their point.
Yeah, and they seem to have a special vindictive spot in their hearts for Sarah baby, from all I can tell they really don't like her, almost hate her. Wife and mother you know, with a big family! Thats enough right there to get the liberals in a hate tizzy.
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So where's the cry of "hate speech?"

*crickets*

I saw about that playboy article in another thread, and I would so love to meet the a--h--- who wrote it...
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Gosh, they are so anal about reason and logic. And the problem is that they don't practice what they preach. Sarah Palin came out as somebody who the Liberals were afraid of, she threatens what those feminists stand for, the traditional woman who accepts and enjoys her role for what she is. Her family is of the traditional American nuclear core family, and obviously you don't see a lot of people wanting to accept that type of lifestyle for a family. What's wrong with being married and having lots of kids? Apparently lots, according to the left.
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Actually, when any atrocity or disrespect, devaluing, degrading, or physical assault is done in any way and on any level, and the victim is not a pro-abortion feminist, or representative thereof, the feminist groups are completely silent.
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Gosh, they are so anal about reason and logic. And the problem is that they don't practice what they preach. Sarah Palin came out as somebody who the Liberals were afraid of, she threatens what those feminists stand for, the traditional woman who accepts and enjoys her role for what she is. Her family is of the traditional American nuclear core family, and obviously you don't see a lot of people wanting to accept that type of lifestyle for a family. What's wrong with being married and having lots of kids? Apparently lots, according to the left.
See, she has a career and a family. Liberals/feminists depend on convincing people that it is IMPOSSIBLE to have both. (Thus why they jumped on the 'look at how messed up her family is' thing with the pregnant daughter.)
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See, she has a career and a family. Liberals/feminists depend on convincing people that it is IMPOSSIBLE to have both. (Thus why they jumped on the 'look at how messed up her family is' thing with the pregnant daughter.)
Remember when Lynn Spears was bitching about how the reaction to Bristol's pregnancy was different than her teenage daughter's? Of course, I blame a lot of the media scrutiny of Bristol Palin on Levi Johnston. He started it in the first place. But now that everything is over, Bristol has spoken out about the experience, and pushing for abstinence, which is what she should be doing. Of course, then all of the wolves will jump on her because they'll claim that while she is pushing the issue, she couldn't do it herself. That's why we learn, hardheads.
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Remember when Lynn Spears was bitching about how the reaction to Bristol's pregnancy was different than her teenage daughter's? Of course, I blame a lot of the media scrutiny of Bristol Palin on Levi Johnston. He started it in the first place. But now that everything is over, Bristol has spoken out about the experience, and pushing for abstinence, which is what she should be doing. Of course, then all of the wolves will jump on her because they'll claim that while she is pushing the issue, she couldn't do it herself. That's why we learn, hardheads.
Who's Lynn Spears?
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