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11-08-2008, 04:51 PM
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Cyber Mom
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Originally Posted by swirling_vortex
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A way to sell new computers! My old computer says it's designed for Windows 98, NT, and 2000; I got it with ME. When I upgraded to XP, it seemed more like a downgrade. My current one actually says it's designed for XP; if I hadn't specifically requested XP, it would have come loaded with Vista. In fact, it came with a Vista disc so that if I ever so desire, I can "upgrade" to it.
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11-08-2008, 04:54 PM
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Cyber Mom
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One of the older computers I have - one they gave me when our work site closed, it was the one I used at work - has 98. It originally had 95, but when I went to access the company's Linux/Pick box, it wouldn't work. It was like pulling teeth to get a copy of 98; microsoft was no longer supporting it, but one of our workers in the Dallas area had a copy of 98 that she had never used, and she donated it to the cause.
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The right of the people to keep and arm bears shall not be infringed. - P.A. Yost, Sr.
Pray for the peace of Jerusalem; they shall prosper that love thee. Psalm 122:6
Jesus is still King!
Liberals are tolerant of sin - intolerant of righteousness. - Me
Grammy's Blog
Richardsville Road
Jame Retief for Secretary of State
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11-08-2008, 07:30 PM
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Been There. Destroyed That.
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Philippines
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Originally Posted by Susanna
One of the older computers I have - one they gave me when our work site closed, it was the one I used at work - has 98. It originally had 95, but when I went to access the company's Linux/Pick box, it wouldn't work. It was like pulling teeth to get a copy of 98; microsoft was no longer supporting it, but one of our workers in the Dallas area had a copy of 98 that she had never used, and she donated it to the cause.
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I understand why Microsoft is reluctant to support old versions of Windows. The issue there is security holes: they'll always be there, and there's a real effort needed to produce the patches needed to fix them.
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11-09-2008, 12:03 PM
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Proud Right-Wing Extremist
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Moscow, PA
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Originally Posted by Susanna
A way to sell new computers! My old computer says it's designed for Windows 98, NT, and 2000; I got it with ME. When I upgraded to XP, it seemed more like a downgrade. My current one actually says it's designed for XP; if I hadn't specifically requested XP, it would have come loaded with Vista. In fact, it came with a Vista disc so that if I ever so desire, I can "upgrade" to it.
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Yes, "upgrade". 
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11-09-2008, 03:32 PM
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Special Operative
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Originally Posted by psychedellic_starshine
First and foremost I'm A Mac guy. Xp was an okay operating system except that it was vunerable but Vista makes a horrible choice for power users they took out the Command Line and they have a policy called Least Privillaged User. Plus Vista is big brother it phones home to MSFT about all that you do on it. I don't want to send an error report to microsoft about how my browser unexpectaly quit working while I was visiting XXXXXXX and my ip is XXXXXXX or that my bank routing numbers on the page I was viewing we're XXXXXXX ya get my drift.
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This isn't true. They didn't remove the Command Line. Least Privileged
User is for networks or idiots. You have the option of whether or not to send an error report, and this has always been there.
I'm running Vista, and it works just fine. Haven't had any problems. Of course, I recently bought a new computer, so that could be it.
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11-09-2008, 03:39 PM
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Conservative on DHS watch list
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Originally Posted by swirling_vortex
Yes, "upgrade". 
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11-11-2008, 10:29 PM
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Connect_Wired
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One of the reasons I dislike vista is the preset limit of only 10 outbound connections. If you try to have more than 10 outbound connections, the computer slows to a crawl by design. I believe they said they put in the limitation to try and stop hackers or file-sharers. But if you need 10 connections, Vista really stinks.
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11-11-2008, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Maylar
One of the reasons I dislike vista is the preset limit of only 10 outbound connections. If you try to have more than 10 outbound connections, the computer slows to a crawl by design. I believe they said they put in the limitation to try and stop hackers or file-sharers. But if you need 10 connections, Vista really stinks.
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OK I'm not a computer geek, why would you need 10 connections ?
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"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb protesting the vote."-Benjamin Franklin
"I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is, not making them easy in poverty, but leading them or driving them out of it."-Benjamin Franklin
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11-11-2008, 10:44 PM
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Connect_Wired
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Originally Posted by Bucks
OK I'm not a computer geek, why would you need 10 connections ?
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I work at a large corporate lawfirm. Many times I have to have several database files open on cases that we work with, or I'll have to have databases open while also remotely controlling other computers. I work in the IT department so if troubleshooting certain things, it's not uncommon for me to have even 20+ open connections. It SERIOUSLY drags the computer down though. ugh
Last edited by Maylar : 11-11-2008 at 10:46 PM.
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11-11-2008, 10:52 PM
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Proud Right-Wing Extremist
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Originally Posted by Maylar
One of the reasons I dislike vista is the preset limit of only 10 outbound connections. If you try to have more than 10 outbound connections, the computer slows to a crawl by design. I believe they said they put in the limitation to try and stop hackers or file-sharers. But if you need 10 connections, Vista really stinks.
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Huh. I've run torrents with more than 10 connections and I've always gotten full download speed. However, if you run databases with SQL, there could be a limitation within IIS that's slowing you down. Or your corporate network is sending you too many connections and they're timing out.
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11-11-2008, 10:56 PM
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Connect_Wired
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Originally Posted by swirling_vortex
Huh. I've run torrents with more than 10 connections and I've always gotten full download speed. However, if you run databases with SQL, there could be a limitation within IIS that's slowing you down. Or your corporate network is sending you too many connections and they're timing out.
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Check your event logs during one of those turrent sessions (which I am "sure" are totally legal torrents! XD)
If you get this event ID, then your affected and your being hard-limited.
EventID 4226: TCP/IP has reached the security limit imposed on the number of concurrent TCP connect attempts
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11-12-2008, 01:17 AM
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Been There. Destroyed That.
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11-12-2008, 01:39 AM
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Connect_Wired
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Originally Posted by jonathan1984
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This was already done on my home computer. Such modifications are not allowed on work related equipment however.
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11-15-2008, 02:38 AM
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grumpy old man, with a gun
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Join Date: Nov 2008
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Vista is a hog
the first thing I did with the new comp was remove vista and install XP
if I change to anything else , it wont be a MS system
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11-15-2008, 03:12 AM
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A toll is a toll, a roll is a roll
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I am running a system with over 2 gig of RAM, and Vista was still laggy.
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11-15-2008, 03:25 AM
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Been There. Destroyed That.
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The first thing I did was turn off User Access Control. Improved things dramatically.
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