A brilliant analysis of American politics today

Yes, of course, liberal vs conservative is an outdated characterization, and was never the full truth anyway.

The real divide today is between those who have a powerful emotional commitment to this country, and those who don’t. Patriots vs non-patriots.

But if you read this paper, you’ll see that this fellow is fully aware of all the nuances and exceptions to the rule. But there are general trends, and in my experience, he’s hit the nail on the head.

It’s dismaying to read all the conservative websites which sell snake oil to gullible readers.There seem to be half a dozen for every quality conservative site. This means there is a market for this sort of junk news. If you want to see the champion of them all, go to DarkOutpost.

It would be better if all of our people were readers, and did not fall for pseudo-scientific nonsense like fake cures for tintinitis or drugs that will triple your memory power, etc…

But we are where we are.

On the left, it is those interested in social issues who are the true reading movement, while those in favor of economic redistribution are more a TV movement, with Russiagate obsessives the most TV-watching of all. On social issues, Democrats are always taking risks and pushing the envelope because the activist base will not let them do otherwise. Left-wing views on economics are more broadly popular, but here Democratic politicians follow the current center of public opinion rather than lead it.

The overall result is that, in terms of policy outcomes, libertarian economics on the right and SJWism on the left both overperform relative to public opinion, while their opposites underperform.

This is why I hate partisan politics, the worst ideas from both sides get used.

This I think we all (all conservatives) agree with.

I’ll give it a second glance. I always strive to be fair and balanced.

I am curious to know which sites you label as which. Conservatives are smart you know, we know how to tell the nonsense from the truth.

When I first looked at this link, I was immediately indignant. Me, a TV-watcher? Why I hardly watch TV at all … and I read a lot. And I have – in the past, not so much now, when there are far more important things to do – debated a ton of arrogant empty-headed moralistic virtue-signallers on the Left … young atheists are the worst. (Go to the ‘Friendly Atheist’ site on Pantheon for the worst examples.) I subscribe to Claremont Review of Books, Commentary, City Journal, American Conservative, Chronicles of American Culture … all stuffed with really heavy-duty thinkers.

But this link came from an acquaintance who I know to be a serious uber-conservative (his blog is at TwilightPatriot.com – I’ve recommended it here before). So I read on.

In a conflict, you’ve got to know as much relevant information as possible. I would love to know far more than I do about AntiFa, for instance, for the purpose of doing them some political harm.

But you’ve got to know about your own side as well, its strengths and weaknesses. You can’t be like a doting mother who thinks her child is brilliant at everything. You have to be cold-blooded, you have to be able to hear the bad news first.

I repeat: the Right and the Left have inverted, in terms of their mass base, from what they historically have been.

Ordinary people rely, in the mean old world of today, on their national state to protect them. The well-educated elite, not so much. (Why they have moved in this direction is actually a mystery to me. Ruling classes have always needed a strong national state to protect them and to advance their interest in struggle against other ruling classes.)

The Left, or its guiding layers, are made up of ‘anywheres’. They can live and work in Switzerland, or Hong Kong. Our side is made up of ‘somewheres’: they have roots. (We saw this in the ‘Brexit’ campaign in Britain.)

It’s something we could wish were different, that the mass of conservatives are not ‘readers’. But it’s nothing to be ashamed of. And it’s not at all a sign that their political choices are necessarily inferior to those of Harvard undergraduates.

As George Orwell said, there are some ideas which are so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.

It would be interesting to count Amazon sales of right and left books over the past few years. I’m not about to do it but it would be interesting. It might blow up his assertion.

See, now, when I first see that link https://www.twilightpatriot.com/
my first thought it, this is some half baked link.

Here are conservative links with real news:

https://www.foxnews.com/
https://www.newsmax.com/
https://www.oann.com/
https://www.breitbart.com/
https://townhall.com/
https://dailycaller.com/
https://www.dailywire.com/
https://www.theblaze.com/
https://www.zerohedge.com/
https://www.newsbusters.org/
https://www.campusreform.org/
https://www.davidlimbaugh.com/

Nobody can call any of these nutty or extremist. This is where honest real news is found. If you know of more please tell me.

I will make a thread on this so that people can share more.

Here are other interesting links:

Accuracy in Media: Your Watchdog of the News Media
American Conservative Union: Supporting capitalism, the original intent of the Constitution, traditional moral values, and a strong national defense
American Life League: Pro-life group dedicated to protecting the sanctity of life from conception
American Policy Center: Exposing the truth on “global warming”, Goals 2000, and more
American Thinker: Daily internet publication
Becket Fund for Religious Liberty: Legal support for religious freedom
Campaign For Liberty: Ron Paul’s grassroots organization
C.J. Pearson: The Lefts Youngest Nightmare, Young, Black, and Unapologetically Republican
Candace: Candace Owen’s show “Candace” on the Daily Wire
Candace Owens Show: Candace Owens Show on Prager U
Citizens United: Dedicated to restoring our government to citizens’ control
Concerned Women for America
Donald J. Trump - Save America: President Trump’s website
FAIR: Federation for Immigration Control
FreedomWorks: FreedomWorks exists to mobilize the largest network of activists advocating the principles of smaller government, lower taxes, free markets, personal liberty and the rule of law
Future of Freedom Foundation: Aimed at establishing an educational foundation that would advance Libertarianism
Gateway Pundit: News, commentary, analysis, go-to source of the late great Rush Limbaugh
Glenn Beck: Political commentator, author, and co-founder of Blaze Media
Glenn Beck’s Youtube Page: Great videos
John Birch Society: Fighting the New World Order and threats to individual liberty
Judicial Watch: A conservative, non-partisan educational foundation, which promotes transparency, accountability and integrity in government, politics and the law
Landmark Legal Foundation: National public interest law firm committed to preserving the principles of limited government
Laura Ingraham: Host of ‘The Ingraham Angle’ on Fox News Channel weeknights
Lara Logan: Logan is host of ‘Lara Logan Has no Agenda’ on Fox Nation
Lary Elder Show: “The Sage of South Central”, conservative author, radio host, and candidate for California Governor
Life Site News: Banned by Youtube, Pro Life news, action & commentary
March For Life: We promote the beauty and dignity of every human life by working to end abortion, educating, and mobilizing pro-life people in the public square
Mark Levin Show: Levin is host of LevinTV and the host of the Fox News show Life, Liberty, and Levin
Michelle Malkin: Malkin’s pages to the Unx Review, banned by Facebook
National Center for Public Policy Research: A resource on many key issues
Red Renaissance: Supporting the Next Generation of Conservative leaders
Red State: News & Media Website
Rush Limbaugh: Rush lives on at his website
The Rutherford Institute: Defending religious freedom
Sharyl Attkisson: Five time Emmy award winning, nonpartisan investigative reporter, one of the few last honest reporters
Tea Party Express: Tea Party Activist Organization
Tea Party Patriots: Tea Party Activist Group
Young Americans Foundation: Conservative Campus Activist group since 1960

Yes … I’ve seen many conservative books hit the NYT Bestseller list … although I’ve also seen leftists claim this is due to mass buying or some such trick.

I think if you analyzed each side in detail, you would find a minority on both sides who regularly purchase, or acquire, books. However, my experience has been that he is basically right.

Yes, I think these are pretty sound. I’ll see if I can add a few more.
And I’ll also list the bad ones, which were set up by grifters to sell advertising.

I realize that if you set up a serious website, it costs serious money, and without an angel, you have to sell advertising. But I think some discretion should be exercised, and snake-oil salesmen should be rejected.

Also: the bad sites I have in mind are, by and large, not original at all. They just repost articles from other conservative sites, but with sensationalist headlines. They degrade consciousness, instead of raising it. I’ll bet the people who run these sites are not conservatives at all, just apolitical grifters.

Yes, I have seen those. That is called Click Bait. Solid conservatives know better than to bite into clickbait.

Okay, but we need the unserious conservatives as well.

It’s like the famous story - I don’t know whether it’s true or not – about ‘egghead’ Adlai Stevenson, when he was running for President against Eisenhower in 1952. As you probably know, he was something of an intellectual, and this was reflected in his speeches. After one of his speeches, a woman rushed up to him and gushed, “Oh, Governor Stevenson, that was such a brilliant talk! I’m sure every thinking American will vote for you!”

And he replied, “Yes ma’am, but I need a majority!”

We need a majority.

Look, there are two choices regarding kooky sites: You can either ban free speech and be like the Nazis at Twitter and Facebook and Google, or you can allow free speech which means you get the nutty with the good. That has always been the tradeoff with rights in a free country. Its the same with the courts: Rights that protect the innocent sometimes allow the guilty to go free. Its the price you pay. With free speech, you get the good (who the Left want to silence) along with the kooks.

Bitchute and Rumble are full of nutty whacky videos and I ignore them. But they have free speech, and that means that good videos and good people banned on Youtube are allowed on Bitchute and Rumble.

Free speech.

Please comment on some of my other threads.

Sure, I’m completely against banning sites, or having some sort of government or quasi-government ‘fact checker’ monitoring everything that is posted on them.

On the other hand, it would be good if the more sophisticated wing of the conservative movement helped educate everyone about these toxic sites, whose only aim is to drain money from patriots.

I’ll be happy to comment on your other threads. Is there an easy way to find them? Or could you give me two or three links?

That is good.

You also just reminded me of the fake news factcheckers: Mostly they are more fake news sites, calling themselves factcheckers, as a means to prop up other fake news. Dan Bongino exposed one recently that Facebook uses for its so-called factchecking.

Unfortunately, in the Internet age, that is impossible. Their sites get lost in the mix with the rest. A person has to already know in advance who they can trust.

Ironically, Trump is the only president to point a finger and call out specific fake news channels. Before Trump, politicians rarely publicly picked winner and losers.

Parenting is so important these days. The only reason I did not fall under the “woke” spell that all my peers did is because of my dad.

I am pretty sure you just click the logo on the top left corner of the page to see all the threads: LINK

Here are some not commented on yet:

40 Years - The Wickedness of the Children of God
Official SOS from Australia - Save us from Fascism
Trump statement on his new social media empire
The “Everything Socialist Extremist” thread
Shapiro REACTS To STUNNING Virginia Election Results
Republicans Have Better Odds Than Democrats to Win Control of House and Senate

Okay, I’ve looked at all the posted threads and made comments --none of them of any import, though – on the threads where I felt I could say something.

I think threads that will provoke comments, from me and others, are those which discuss what strategy and tactics we should be pursuing in order to hold back the Left, and/or discussions of what foreign policy the nations of the Free World should pursue.

I thought that 40 Years - The Wickedness of the Children of God was pretty good. One generation, from destroying communism to embracing it. No import?

I meant that I had nothing of any import to say.

I do not understand why Western civilization is destroying itself, led by its elite.

In the past elites have often been too immersed in the pleasures of being on top, to pay attention to what was going on below them.

When you read about, say, the English Civil War, or the French Revolution, or the Russian Revolution … you keep thinking, “Jeez, guys … didn’t you see this coming? Why didn’t you make some concessions, some changes, to accommodate the people you were angering?”

In the case of monarchies, you can say, it was just a genetic accident that fairly stupid people inherited the throne, instead of smart people. If you had put Bismarck’s brain into Kaiser Wilhelm (the Second)‘s body, we wouldn’t have had WWI. If you had put Stolypin’s brain into Czar Nicholas’ body, Russia would today be a prosperous constitutional monarchy, like the Scandinavian countries.

But our ruling elites are highly intelligent, well educated … and yet they are watching while the Leftists iin our cultural apparatus dissolve the social glue that holds us together.

Why?

Beats me. Which is why I had nothing to say to your post re Reagan and the Pope. Forty years ago, we put Reagan and Margaret Thatcher in power, and although the liberal intelligentsia screamed bloody murder, the people who own the big corporations were not unhappy. But today …

I don’t understand why this has happened.

There is a theory, I think by one General Glubb, that says that empires – let’s call them ‘civilizations’ – only last about ten generations – 250 years – on average, because the militant, fighting, self-confident spirit that animates their leaders at all levels when the civilization in question is starting out, fighting enemies – starts to deteriorate when victory is achieved, and the civilization in question is secure, and begins to reap the material rewards of its victories. In short, the rulers and the social layers immediately below them, get fat and lazy.

It’s an intriguing idea, but I’m not convinced. But I have no alternative explanation.

I think the reason you don’t get many replies to your posts is this: this is a mainly-conservative site, and most of the things you have posted so far are things we all more or less agree with.

Try posting something that could provoke a discussion – where there is disagreement among conservatives. Or, something that brings new information to us.

For example, I think you’re in Australia. The Australian health care system seems pretty good to me, but I’m an outsider and know little about it. So something on that subject would be interesting.

Or perhaps something on Australia’s immigration policy.

There is at least one other Australian, more or less on the Left, who posts here … so we might have a goo debate.

I sure provoke the moderator. LOL :slight_smile:

Well, okay, but the moderators here are conservative.

If you want to really cause some apoplexies, go here and post something:

You’ll have to join Library Thing, but that’s free.