Comey's book


#1

If anyone cares what I think with respect to Comey’s book…For what it’s worth and in the interest of principle, setting aside whether I believe Comey was truthful in his book or not, I think that based on just a few things I’ve seen in excerpts and interviews that Comey is cashing in and turning this entire thing into a circus. I think what he’s chosen to do with respect to this book is below him and only hurts the chances that we’ll ever know the truth.

Frankly, I’m disgusted. That’s my first impression.


#2

Not that I buy Comey’s “aw shucks” Opie Taylor routine, but it’s hard to imagine the type of person who could look at Trump and Comey, and deduce that the more honorable and trustworthy character is Trump.

What’s interesting to me about this is that Comey is far closer to what, in the past, would have passed for a decent conservative. The guy is clearly a sincere and passionate Christian. Even with his flaws, a person who thinks Trump is a better public servant than Comey clearly lacks the sort of insight or moral character to vote in an ethical manner.


#3

Comey’s strategy is smart though. There’s a huge market for what he’s saying. And he’s saying what will make him the most money.

He’s just cashing in on a desire for Trump hating conspiracies. I would point out, that Trump peddled quite a number of ridiculous Obama conspiracies. So he doesn’t have a lot of room to complain about being treated “unfairly”.

Really, 90% of the Democrat’s strategy thusfar was ripped straight out of the Tea Party’s unhinged attacks on Obama.

“He’s literally Hitler”
“He’s a puppet of foreign governments”
“He’s going to be a dictator and lock up everyone who doesn’t agree with him!”

While I am aware the Russian conspiracy is wild eyed lunacy, it’s no more crazy than believing that Obama is a secret Kenyan Muslim.


#4

This is the state of politics in America today, thanks in large part to the 24 hr news cycle imho. All that airtime to fill, and that filler has to POP! Then the internet competes for attention (advertising dollars), and the cycle gets a little faster and more unstable, the hysteria becomes a runaway reaction. The failure to teach kids critical thinking skills hasn’t done us any favors, either. Of course, California’s plan to institute a ‘ministry of truth’ that will have the right to censor internet (or perhaps all media) content is JUST the ticket, eh?


#5

Chris Wallace described it as “bitchy”. YMMV


#6

My personal belief is that Jim Comey was a decent (nothing special) man seduced (by power and influence and the culture of corruption that ivariably accompanies it) into playing politics with the power of the FBI. I feel sure one of the seduction tactics was to tell him just how special he was, how incorruptible, how honorable, how insightful into ‘what America really needs’.

I have no mercy in me for formerly honest public servants who go that route. They need to be rooted out and hammered hard. To do otherwise is to encourage more of the same.


#7

There’s an interesting quote in the book about the previous attorney general Lynch

“If the information had become public, it would have been undoubtedly used by political opponents to cast serious doubt on the attorney general’s independence in connection with the Clinton investigation.”


#8

I have no mercy in me for formerly honest public servants who go that route. They need to be rooted out and hammered hard. To do otherwise is to encourage more of the same.

Fair enough. Do you have a similar lack of mercy to life-long scumbags like Trump?


#9

He has a history of chasing skirts, saying whatever is on his mind in “down to earth” language, indulges in political hyperbole and verbally hits back at his critics. This equates to a “life-long scumbag”? Seriously?


#10

As if Trump’s scumbaggary ends at being a painty raider…lol


#11

Heh. The Presidency, one might say, is a crucible. Trump is feeling the heat of past indiscretions. There’s a certain justice in that, which in and of itself doesn’t bother me. But if the fourth amendment gets wrecked in the process, was it worth it?

If Trump is genuinely caught in corruption, he can hang. I think the only politically relevant crime he’s guilty of is not belonging to the two party oligarchy that’s taken control of government.

He wasn’t anywhere near my first choice. Hillary was just my last choice, and nothing about the ‘investigation’ is passing my smell test.


#12

Fair enough. I personally disagree, obviously. I think the investigation seems pretty above-board and necessary. Mueller is about as decent a public servant as one could ask for in such a case (obviously, no one is a saint).

Trump is a pathological liar, a serious creep (using his status as an owner of Miss Teen USA to creep on naked teenagers?), and utterly amoral. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if this investigation uncovers serious criminality in his business dealings.


#13

Much as I dislike the guy, I just don’t get that level of antipathy. I’ll wait for some evidence on the charges… oh wait, there arent any charges, are there? This is an open ended dirt digging expedition to see if anything can be found, based on a fake dossier paid for by his political opponent. Comey and McCabe are both proven liars, and their fingerprints are all over this thing. Even if there is something to the speculation (I doubt it), the investigation is tainted in multiple ways, and half the country would not accept the findings. An uncovered sewer might be described as open and above board, but… It. Still. Stinks.


#14

This witch-hunt is ANYTHING but “above-board and necessary.” As is obvious to ANYONE with an ounce of personal integrity, it’s an “investigation” in search of a crime. That’s NOT how investigations are supposed to be conducted. First, you identify a crime–and “collusion,” whatever that is, isn’t a crime ANYWHERE in federal law. Then you investigate to determine who, what, when, where and how the crime was committed so you can go to a grand jury for an indictment. Mueller’s “investigation” is merely assuming that SOME crime might have occurred and he’s hired a gaggle of unscrupulous, Hillary/Obama fans to see if he can find one.

Secondly, President Trump sometimes stretches the truth, but he’s no “pathological liar.” Nor is he a “serious creep.” YOU may find him creepy, but the 63 million of us who voted for him didn’t and there is NO PROOF…nor even credible testimony…that he ever “creep[ed]on naked teenagers.” He said he COULD walk in on half-dressed teens. He never said that he DID so, though the anti-Trump media claimed that he did.


#15

"…In his famous dissent in the Supreme Court case of Morrison v. Olson upholding the independent-counsel law in 1988, Antonin Scalia wrote, “Nothing is so politically effective as the ability to charge that one’s opponent and his associates are not merely wrongheaded, naive, ineffective, but, in all probability, ‘crooks.’ And nothing so effectively gives an appearance of validity to such charges as a Justice Department investigation and, even better, prosecution.”

Scalia relied heavily on a speech from FDR’s attorney general, Robert Jackson. The future Supreme Court justice warned against prosecutors picking a person, not a crime, to investigate.

It’s still worth quoting Jackson at length: “In such a case, it is not a question of discovering the commission of a crime and then looking for the man who has committed it, it is a question of picking the man and then searching the law books, or putting investigators to work, to pin some offense on him. It is in this realm” - the ability to pick and choose targets - “that the greatest danger of abuse of prosecuting power lies…”
Rich Lowery writing in the NY Post


#16

I think there are the cult member types for whom Trump is basically a good guy who maybe just cheated on his wife now and then (a position that’s still a joke…if Obama had a porn star spank him with a magazine with his picture on the cover, conservatives would be losing their minds). These are also the types who cling to some idea that Trump really is a genius, his seemingly idiotic decisions are actually brilliant 3d chess, etc. These are just the Trump version of Obamabots.

But the more clear-eyed view, and the one I find more interesting, is from Trump supporters like Ann Coulter, who say outright that of course Trump is a buffoonish, dimwitted, imbecilic scumbag…but he was still the best of a bunch of really bad options. I’m not saying I agree with this, but it at least shows the person is somewhat in touch with moral reality.


#17

I don’t buy the dimwitted and imbecilic part. Watch some of his old interviews from the late 80’s early 90’s. (for instance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAe8mhGTctY ) I’d buy blinkered by vanity and pride, though.


#18

President Trump is neither “buffoonish, dimwitted, imbecilic” nor a “scumbag.” He says some things which might make small-minded people THINK he’s any of those things, but let’s not forget that he beat “the smartest woman in the country” by 75 electoral votes (and 35 more than he needed to win the election)…despite the consistently negative input by the media, lots of other Republicans and virtually ALL of the entertainment industry. That’s NOT a characteristic of a buffoon, dimwit or imbecil and quite obviously some 64 million Americans did NOT consider him a “scumbag.” Let’s also not forget that some of the things he said that caused the media to so portray him as an idiot and a liar have turned out to be entirely true…for example, his claim that the Obama administration had “wire-tapped” his campaign. Almost to a man, the media laughed at his claim, and it turned out to be entirely true, even though not “technically” a “wiretap.”


#19

Then he was wrong and your engaging in mental gymnastics to make it right.


#20

The criticism of Comey that I don’t understand is the “partisan hack” comment. He’s been in equal measures loathed loathed and praised by actual partisan hacks on both sides. That’s a pretty good sign that he’s been doing something right.