Conservative Cliches


#1

This article by the Heritage Foundation is about cliches Conservatives use…which are then used by libs to demonize them. More importantly…it is how to make the Conservative point in a way that Libs can’t twist against us…and makes us more easily understood by the independents we need.
I thought it was pretty good for a brief article… and wondered it anyone else has some “right wing” cliches that are better expressed in a different way.

The cliches covered in the article are listed here…you’ll have to read it to see what was recommended.

**“America Is a Christian Nation”
****“States’ Rights”
****“That’s Socialism”
****“Small Government”

"**Conservatives use clichés—but not because we shy away from arguments or deny having an ideology. Clichés can be true statements summarizing a longer argument. Or clichés can be incorrect arguments masquerading as obvious statements. It’s the latter that conservatives should eradicate from our language."
The Tyranny of Conservative Cliches


#2

“American Exceptionalism” is another one.


#3

This is what I hate about the liberals. We shouldn’t have to succumb to their level. We shouldn’t have to rephrase our wording when our moronic president is up on stage addressing the nation that everything is doing just fine when days later the Federal Reserve says otherwise! We shouldn’t be held to liberal standards of word play when ours is more true than theirs and they don’t even apologize for being wrong!


#4

JJF…the point is that SOME of our cliches are innaccurate. We don’t care about the libs…but we DO need the independents so it is important that WE cannot be demonized because of poor word choices…and also important so that we make our ideas clear.

Bigfoot…yes that is a cliche…but is it an inaccurate one?


#5

IDK how we can do that when we have members of our own party and independents alike calling us liberals for not caring about the issues they care about more. This is why the Republicans are losing conservatives and independents. Maybe it’s a good thing…IDK.

This is also why the majority of young people find the GOP ridiculous. We seem chaotic and confused…


#6

The phrase it self is not inaccurate, though it is usually used to justify something completely unrelated(military expansion), whether you agree with that or not.


#7

Yup…American exceptionalism is about liberty producing exceptional results…not about a justification for particular policies other than those that promote liberty.

Another common cliche which is inaccurate…“Obama is a Socialist” is tackled by Thomas Sowell…who concludes he is more of a classic fascist. But Dan Mitchell argues that both statements can boomerang on conservatives counseling:

"It is counterproductive to call Obama a fascist because that term is now linked to the specific form of evil produced by Hitler and the National Socialist Party.

So if you disapprove of Obama’s policies, call him a statist or a corporatist. Heck, you can say he believes in cronyism or maybe even collectivism. Those terms get across that he wants more government without causing needless controversy that distracts from the main message.

But make sure you apply the same term to Republicans who impose the same types of policies, such as Bush and Nixon."

Read the whole thing… Obama’s Technically not a Socialist, but He Won’t Like How Thomas Sowell Describes His Philosophy « International Liberty


#8

I like stereotypes, they save time…


#9

I agree that Obama is more of a fascist as well.


#10

[quote=“kaz, post:8, topic:34977”]
I like stereotypes, they save time…
[/quote]I wrote a paper in my college sensitivity training class (it wasn’t actually called that) about the value of stereotypes. I got a B. The teacher was excellent and fair.


#11

How are “small government” and “states’ rights” cliches? That’s like almost the definition of a right philosophy. I can see the other two, though.


#12

Maybe its because young people are influenced by what they learn in school (political opinions of teachers) and what they see in TV.
The political views of their deathmetal bands and what hollyweird says.
Kids are also immature and havent fully matured.

Youth tend to walk in lockstep like Sheep based on what their friends are into.
A new call of duty game is out and the graphics are the same but they must get it because all their friends probally will.
A new DLC map pack is out for COD so they must by it or they cant play with their friends.
Their friends prefer light beer so they must drink light beer too, if their friends smoke pot then it must be ok
and if their friends are at a Obama rally then they must go too.


#13

More than just youth, everyone does your brain gives you pleasure similar to sex when you conform with the group.


#14

Imagine saying “that’s socialism” just because the Democrats are socialist. On the other hand, they don’t want to be called socialists. Makes no sense, does it?


#15

The cliche I see is when certain people of the right-minded philosophy start calling everything they don’t like Socialism. Like the examples brought up in this thread, where certain right-wingers were calling Obama a Socialist. First off, Socialism describes social-ownership of certain parts economy, which we already have in the form of public schools, public fire departments, public police departments, public transportation safety departments, public water systems, public mail systems, etc. When Obama does something that has nothing to do with social-ownership of the economy, and is simply labeled a “Socialist” because it is a “dirty word” or whatever, it does tend to get on your nerves. Moreover, the people I’m thinking of who use it that way usually combine it with “Communist”, “Muslim”, “Fascist”, or “Atheist”, or numerous other terms, each of which are completely separate from each other and some of which are contradictory to each other, all of which are usually inaccurate and only used as mud-slinging terms.


#16

No, public police, fire and other emergency services are not socialism.

That’s just plain silly.


#17

[quote=“Conservatarian, post:12, topic:34977”]
Maybe its because young people are influenced by what they learn in school (political opinions of teachers) and what they see in TV.
The political views of their deathmetal bands and what hollyweird says.
Kids are also immature and havent fully matured.

Youth tend to walk in lockstep like Sheep based on what their friends are into.
A new call of duty game is out and the graphics are the same but they must get it because all their friends probally will.
A new DLC map pack is out for COD so they must by it or they cant play with their friends.
Their friends prefer light beer so they must drink light beer too, if their friends smoke pot then it must be ok
and if their friends are at a Obama rally then they must go too.
[/quote]A prefect analysis


#18

That’s ridiculous, there are many correlations between those. Only Muslim isn’t related to the others.

Communists are socialists. Dude, read the Communist manifesto. The Soviets were communists, but they aren’t the definition of communism. Obama and the Democratic party do support the planks and philosophy of the Communist manifesto, which is why they are Communists and that includes socialist whether they like the terms or not.

Fascist is one step removed from socialist where industry is technically in private hands but under government control. Hitler was a fascist, but like the Soviets aren’t the definition of Communist, the Manifesto is, Hitler doesn’t define fascist. Fascism is his economic system. Fascism leads to socialism, there really is little difference. If government controls the assets, what difference does it make who’s name is on the title?

Communists are atheist for a clear reason, you can have only one God and if you are religious you aren’t going to accept government as your God. Which is why the left in this country are so anti-Christian. You can’t worship God and government, there can be only one almighty deity.

To say those are unrelated is political posturing and no reflection of reality.


#19

Clichés can be true statements summarizing a longer argument.

Or over-simplifications. Or half- or three-quarter-truths.

But if a summary, the one using the cliche should be prepared to explain what they mean, and not stumble and stammer or dodge reasonable questions by resorting to further cliches and/or vaguenesses.


#20

Exactly, socialism is central economic planning. Police, fire and emergency are “protection” or “insurance.” It’s just silly to say that having a fireman come to your house is central economic planning.