Democrats Support Infanticide: Change My Mind

Going back Obama’s days in the state legislature, Illinois legislation was put forward in 2001, 2002 and 2003 that required doctors to provide immediate life-saving care to any infant that survived an intended abortion. The legislation, which included multiple bills, specified that an infant surviving a planned abortion is “born alive” and “shall be fully recognized as a human person and accorded immediate protection under the law.”

Obama did not vote for it.

So this goes all the way back then.

Recently, New York politicians put on such a disgusting display that one could only call it “Evil”. They lit up the New York skyline pink when they passed a law allowing full grown babies to be aborted. Read:

  • NEW YORK, New York, January 23, 2019 (LifeSiteNews) – New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) directed that the One World Trade Center’s spire be lit pink overnight on Tuesday to celebrate his signing of a law allowing abortions until birth in some cases, and letting non-doctors commit abortions. The law, the Reproductive Health Act, also erases the state’s recognition of preborn babies older than 24 weeks as potential homicide victims.

In Virginia, democrats put forth similar legislation. The governor actually said that a baby could be killed AFTER it was born.

VA governor isn’t backing down from comments defending third-trimester abortion - 2019-02-01

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Other leftwing extremists have said that babies could be born long after birth. Granted they are the fringe, but they are out there, and they are Democrats (or worse).

So, I say: Democrats Support Infanticide: Change My Mind

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I applaud your passion on this subject. You should know that all of us here at republicanoperative agree with the sentiment that killing babies is wrong, whether they’ve been born yet or not.
On the other hand, there is a hand full of democrats who hang out here who absolutely adore infanticide and abortion. Don’t expect them to comment on this post. In fact whenever you do post anything like this they’ll be remarkably silent.

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Democrats believe that they have to speak with one voice. They condemn any public disagreements within their party. Their members of the House and Senate vote as a unit the vast majority of the time.

It’s no coincidence that their news services use the same phrases when they are presenting an issue. “Racism” and “Climate Change” covers the vast majority of their responses to many issues. It’s much easier to maintain party discipline when you have fewer responses to the issues.

There has to be some Democrats who oppose infantacide as the Governor of Virginia advocated it, but they dare not say so publicly.

There are some Democrats who have a problem with transsexual athletes competing against biological women, but they can’t say anything and not have other Democrats condemning them. What has happened to the woman’s movement? It must be made subservient to the LBTG community because it is now more important to the Democrat leadership.

The Democrat Party has become like the Communist Party. Public disagreement with the party’s ideology is not tolerated. That’s their goal for the rest of the country.

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In that time, abortion was already illegal in Illinois past 12 weeks, the fetus would fit in the palm of your hand. The youngest fetus to survive premature birth was somewhere around 20 weeks. We literally didn’t and still do not have the technology to keep <12 week aborted fetuses alive if we wanted to. Maybe we can revisit this when we can keep them alive, but in the meantime the bill was cruel to the patient, the doctors, and the fetus.

Only after 24 weeks if the fetus is already dead or the mother will die before birth (likely killing both her and the fetus)

Again, he was only talking about cases where the fetus was dead or both the mother and fetus would die.

So yeah, it would seem Democrats support infanticide. That is, if you opt to throw context to the wind and spin half-truths.

On the whole, they don’t support such extremes. But it’s still a child. And there are those Dems in power who support post birth abortion.

Dems in power are what matter. Plenty of Dems in power support late term abortion, abortion during birth, and allowing a newborn to die.

And I must respectfully disagree with you regarding your saying, “On the whole, they don’t support such extremes.” We cannot give free passes to the people who support those who support such extremes. I am afraid it is not good enough for someone to say, “Yes, I vote Democrat, but I do not support all their policies.” No sir, not good enough when those policies are sheer evil and include infanticide. Those who enable with their votes those Dems in power bear the guilt for the crimes against humanity of the Democrat party. Their vote is their support. Actions matter more than words.

To the previous poster right before you: The title of the thread is “Democrats Support Infanticide: Change My Mind.” Not only did you not change my mind you did the opposite: Like a lawyer defending a serial killer you made excuses for the Democrats crimes against humanity, thus exposing who you really are. You keep speaking of “the fetus” when we are talking about full grown babies. You speak of arbitrary man-made timelines as if they somehow alter the reality of a human being being slaughtered… Lawyers who defend child killers do not care about the crime or the pain, they only care about getting their client off the hook. That is what you have done for the Democrats, and I must say it is quite despicable.

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That’s okay, I was pretty sure that was impossible anyway.

I was afraid that might trigger you

Biological timelines, it’s literally impossible with our technology to keep them alive so young. By all means, get a doctorate and go into biotech to work on changing the reality of that, but it is what it is for now.

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Well done. Like a true propagandist and defender of evil, you chop up a post until it has no meaning at all and then attack the straw man you have created. I have been here one day but I have seen your kind for many years, dishonest to the core, and like all Leftists, a perverter of facts, purveyor of lies, and promoter of evil.

EDIT: And by the way, the whole “I was afraid that might trigger you” schtick? Nice try, but I do not get triggered like you fascists do. I merely state facts and leave the crying to the snowflakes on the Left. But it is noteworthy that on top of everything I already said about your dishonesty, you also tried to attack me by your own admission.

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Watch out, @TrumpGurl, you can’t challenge them here in any way because such questions are out of bounds. I have asked if they could name a socialist country which has worked to their satisfaction, and was told to stand down.

Okay, fair enough.

But if I were a socialist, I would want to pose that question to myself to justify why I want to force other people to live under my system. But I don’t see these people doing that. All they do call anyone who questions them racists or climate deniers.

I’ll answer for myself. I am a capitalist because I have seen how well it has worked in the United States and elsewhere. I am not a socialist or a communist because those systems have failed repeatedly and often resulted in oppressive regimes that deny human rights.

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“Partial-birth abortion (PBA) is the term Congress has used to describe a procedure that crosses the line from abortion to infanticide. The doctor delivers a substantial portion of the living child outside his mother’s body — the entire head in a head-first delivery or the trunk past the navel in a feet-first delivery — then kills the child by crushing his skull or removing his brain by suction.”

Okay Gene. Please point on my half truths and spins on this one. I think it’s a pretty succinct definition. Whether or not the situation justifies the technique doesn’t change the fact that abortion is killing someone who can’t defend themselves. I’m not going to argue the moral implications or whatever because I don’t care. I just find it odd how democrats switch from “we have to think of the children” to “we don’t care if a child is murdered by a conspiracy involving the doctor and the expectant mother.”

And man. Please don’t tell me that the vast majority of ANY abortions are performed because anyone is worried about the health of the mother. It’s a convenience thing. Kind of how democrats switch their opinions and views when it’s convenient or politically expedient.

But hey, I won’t throw out the fact that probably most lefties are very mentally ill. I’m not judging. Sometimes you can’t fix broken things.

Is that a joke or are you serious? Isn’t this a Republican forum? Please don’t tell me this is a RINO forum.

He’s being sarcastic. Things haven’t gotten that bad. Yet.

The half truth you’re working with is that the methods described and partial birth abortions are already illegal

When I asked a couple of these leftists to name a country were socialism has worked, I was informed that was out of bounds. They can threaten to take our guns, property and free speech, but we can’t ask them to justify that threat.

And you should know, the guy who can kick you off this site did not vote for Trump. He voted for Mike Pence as a write-in, which in my opinion, is the next to voting for Biden.

Its bad enough that this forum lets a disgusting propagandist like that Gene person post here. Well, I guess we cannot appreciate the light without her darkness to compare it to, right?

How Democrats Get Away with Justifying Infanticide


41 Democratic senators successfully filibustered the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act, which would require doctors to provide standard medical care to infants who survive attempted abortion procedures.

“Already illegal.” What does that mean? How long has this been illegal? Why has it become illegal? Where is it illegal?

Federally, across the entire U.S. and backed up by a supreme court case, since 2003

Be careful. Note Gene’s satanic trickery. She says it is already illegal. But that’s not what the post is about. The post is about Democrats supporting the LEGALITY of murdering full grown babies and trying to make it legal, and making it legal in some places. Reread the OP… If it is illegal in some places it is due to Republicans and and in spite of Democrats.

Oh yes, this Gene is a deceitful demon. Watch out for its wording in posts. Very deceitful.

I agree, but this thread is more about Democrat support of infanticide.

I want to know why it’s illegal now. What are these moral implications? Could this sort of be like supporting hanging but not lethal injection?

I am only allowed 20 posts a day as a newbie so this might be my last. Two different things here: Partial birth abortion, and not sustaining a child after birth. Both are discussed in the OP. My guess is that both are illegal in some states and legal in others.

Simply put, they are exactly what this thread is about, infanticide. I believe the vast majority of Americans are actually against these horrible policies that Democrats want to be legal.

I don’t think so.