Federal judge rules ObamaCare unconstitutional


#1

A federal judge in Virginia has ruled parts of the sweeping health care reform effort led by President Obama to be unconstitutional. This is the first federal court to strike down the law, contradicting other recent rulings the law was permissible. The key issue of contention was the “individual mandate” requirement that most Americans purchase health insurance by 2014.
The case is Virginia v. Sebelius.

BREAKING: Virginia judge rules parts of health care reform unconstitutional – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

The worm is turning. Obama care is nothing more than a big tax on Americans coupled with further oversight and payoffs to Obama’s cronies.


#2

YES! (Shouldn’t have had to BE put in front of a judge for people to already know this, but as it is, HA! SOMEbody w/a lick of sense!)


#3

Beyond the mandate, was there anything else that was ruled unconstitutional?


#4

I was so very happy to hear this! I’m so glad a judge had the guts and brains to do this.


#5

I’ve started reading the decision. I hope it’s upheld but it flies in the face of deferential rulings on areas of economic regulation since the famous Carolene Products decision of 1939.


#6

When this goes to the Supreme Court, it may be the most important ruling in the history of America. If it is allowed to stand (forcing citizens to purchase insurance) there is then no limit to the power of Congress.

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#7

No but he severed article 1501 that basically funds the bill.


#8

Don’t you already mandate the purchase of auto insurance? Or do you not have to do that in the US?


#9

Automobiles operate on public roads, and carry significant risk of injuring others.


#10

Also you can choose to not drive. Having a pulse is not optional.


#11

Well, it is, but it’s a meaningless option :wink:


#12

No, this is a Liberal lie they use to justify their health care vote.

There are no Federal laws requiring automobile insurance, all the mandatory insurance laws are State laws.

Massachusetts has Communist health care but as a State it does not violate the U.S. Constitution. States are free to be about as dumb as they want.


#13

There are no Federal laws requiring automobile insurance, all the mandatory insurance laws are State laws.

Exactly, there are no federal auto insurance laws, not that it is even similar.


#14

[quote=“Volk, post:8, topic:28567”]
Don’t you already mandate the purchase of auto insurance? Or do you not have to do that in the US?
[/quote]Even though I see the reasoning behind “financial responsibility statutes” requiring auto insurance (which by the way are a creature of State, not Federal law) their result has been disastrous. Basically it funds an army of trial lawyers (or what can charitably be called trial lawyers since they really don’t try cases too well) where there’s los of legal activity, lots of expense to motorists, and very little proceeds for the injured.


#15

[quote=“Volk, post:8, topic:28567”]
Don’t you already mandate the purchase of auto insurance? Or do you not have to do that in the US?
[/quote]Even though I see the reasoning behind “financial responsibility statutes” requiring auto insurance (which by the way are a creature of State, not Federal law) their result has been disastrous. Basically it funds an army of trial lawyers (or what can charitably be called trial lawyers since they really don’t try cases too well) where there’s los of legal activity, lots of expense to motorists, and very little proceeds for the injured.


#16

What RET and JBG said; not at the Federal level. And I have a problem with it at the State level.

Compulsory insurance of any kind is compulsory gambling at house odds, and the tort lawyers raid the house often, and the house passes the cost of the raid to the customer…


#17

To this may I say, people like me are already off the grid. Many doctors are already turning people like me away from the health care we need because of the new regulations and curtailing of payments based on age, need and future ability of the person in question.
I had another heart issue last week requiring unorthodox treatment for a 200bpm episode. Occurred twice, once in Church and again at night in the hospital with a monitor on. The initial treatment was to insert two electrodes into my groin up to my heart and look for the offending part causing the rapid BPM thereupon cauterizing [or whatever it is called] this problem. If this were to be done with the Obama care in force Government bureaucrats would first have to review the illness, and condition of the patient before approving any further treatment.
Look into the reading, this is EXACTLY what is to be done.


#18

Quite honestly I wrestle with this issue. The obvious problem is that motorists pose a risk not only to other motorists but to the general public so perhaps a “socialist” solution is more warranted than for other of societies’ ills. And even for health insurance, an argument can be made, as the U.S. government makes, that uninsured people (courtesy of the Hypocrytical Oath) do not go without treatment; they foist the cost of the treatment on al of u.

The elephant in the room on health insurance is the exploding life expectancies. People are living longer. And most people who make it from the old 72 year life expectancy to the “new normal” of around or over 90 have at least one illness or hip fracture that requires care, if not more. Whether the “payer” is Medicare or “employer paid” insurance makes little difference; the patient him or herself has no ability to pay, so the cost gets “spread”.

I myself, as a healthy 53 year old, place no great stock in these long life expectancies. But they exist.


#19

in a nut shell, if I can no longer “contribute” to society, am I then expendable–[ except to you kids] :}


#20

Excuse me? I don’t have health insurance, and never in my life have I stiffed a doctor or asked anyone to pay my bills but ME. If I were the only one in that boat, I might keep my yap shut, but I know too many who row that same boat.
Sorry for being testy, but this excuse for forcing people to purchase something they don’t want has got to STOP!