For those of you depressed about the presidential election


#1

So many people are depressed about the result of the presidential election, but it goes even beyond that. Conservatives lost seats in the senate. Four states voted to legalize same sex marriage and two more states voted to legalize euthanasia. It is beyond Obama staying in office, although that is bad. Romney wasn’t going to come in and save us all. Government will not save us. The crisis in this country is way beyond which party holds certain offices and seats. This country is increasingly showing more support for same sex marriage, same sex adoption, abortion on demand, and euthanasia. Our nation kills more than 1.2 million babies a year as innocent blood is shed in the name of choice, convenience and for blood money. This country tolerates and glorifies perversion. We have an interventionalist foreign policy running up our debt while we place dictators in power to rule with Sharia Law and we call it democracy. Many forget years ago in Florida, a woman was executed for the crime of being handicapped and it was the longest state sponsored execution I know of. After two weeks of starving, she wasn’t even allowed communion before passing away as this would have violated the court order disallowing food intake.

There is a lack of tolerance for manger scenes and an acceptance of repulsive and disrespectful paintings of the Virgin Mary and various “art” displays of Jesus Christ, while crosses on monuments and the side of the road are discouraged or outlawed. The Ten Commandments are removed with any mention of God or Jesus Christ, while filth is encouraged in the name of tolerance. Football players can’t take a knee at mid field and valedictorians are not allowed to mention Jesus Christ or God, while it is acceptable for them to receive the morning after pill, contact information for an abortion clinic or condoms. Our problems in what is left of this country, this once great Old Republic which is spiraling toward an atheistic wasteland go far beyond what color lights up the Empire State Building the night of the first Tuesday in November. To fix these problems, it takes more than Mitt Romney or any political party. Government is not our savior. Jesus Christ is.


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#3

Good speech if it wasn’t ringing hollow cause you were one that helped Obama get reelected.


#4

Oh stop riding that ridiculous nag.


#5

How did I do that?


#6

Exactly, there’s no way it could possibly have been due to running a big government liberal as a Republican candidate.


#7

[quote=“Right_Wing, post:6, topic:37011”]
Exactly, there’s no way it could possibly have been due to running a big government liberal as a Republican candidate.
[/quote] Oh still lying to yourself about it huh?


#8

No, I never was. However, it would be great if you could see beyond your guy not getting into office. This country has much more problems than that. It starts by people looking to government as their savior.


#9

[quote=“Right_Wing, post:8, topic:37011”]
No, I never was. However, it would be great if you could see beyond your guy not getting into office. This country has much more problems than that. It starts by people looking to government as their savior.
[/quote] He wasn’t my guy…He was the last guy standing so I gave him my support. I see now that the election was lost in the primaries. Yet that still doesn’t excuse those of you who like to say you are for liberty attacking the party that has stood for that for decades. It isnt just that you voted stupidly it is that you actively campaigned against the Republican party. Selfishness if the platform of libertarian.


#10

[quote=“thanatos144, post:3, topic:37011”]
Good speech if it wasn’t ringing hollow cause you were one that helped Obama get reelected.
[/quote]I don’t agree with RW often, but on this, I do. He didn’t help Obama, since Obama needed no help. He voted his conscience. His right, as an American citizen. Your party let you down, not us. We SoCons are at our wits end. Your party, and its minions, tell us we are not wanted in their party, and then blame us when we don’t vote the way THEY think we should. SOMEBODY must stand for our conservative values. The RNC will sell us down the river, at the drop of a hat. Republican citizens seem to think they are superior to all who don’t buy into their PC pandering.
I refuse to support Dem Lites. What is the upside? For me, there isn’t one. Obama got reelected by the entitlement crowd. That is who is to blame.


#11

[quote=“Tiny1, post:10, topic:37011”]
I don’t agree with RW often, but on this, I do. He didn’t help Obama, since Obama needed no help. He voted his conscience. His right, as an American citizen. Your party let you down, not us. We SoCons are at our wits end. Your party, and its minions, tell us we are not wanted in their party, and then blame us when we don’t vote the way THEY think we should. SOMEBODY must stand for our conservative values. The RNC will sell us down the river, at the drop of a hat. Republican citizens seem to think they are superior to all who don’t buy into their PC pandering.
I refuse to support Dem Lites. What is the upside? For me, there isn’t one. Obama got reelected by the entitlement crowd. That is who is to blame.
[/quote] Romney didnt win his own base…You sure about what you just said? It wasn’t Hispanics or women or independents that lost Romney the election it was conservatives. Next primary MUST BE DIFFERENT!


#12

What was his base? RINO’s. Conservatives were not Romney’s base. The RNC selected Romney, not the conservatives.


#13

And I’m not depressed. Check out the second line of text on my sig!


#14

[quote=“Susanna, post:12, topic:37011”]
What was his base? RINO’s. Conservatives were not Romney’s base. The RNC selected Romney, not the conservatives.
[/quote] Then you should have voted in the primaries.


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[quote=“thanatos144, post:11, topic:37011”]
Romney didnt win his own base…You sure about what you just said? It wasn’t Hispanics or women or independents that lost Romney the election it was conservatives. Next primary MUST BE DIFFERENT!
[/quote]He’s a liberal. Of course he didn’t fare well with conservatives. The RNC continues to ignore conservatives, in hopes of winning the minorities, and special interest.
But yes, I believe the entitlement crowd definitely voted for more freebies. Look where the votes came from:
93% black. They represent 40% of those on welfare. 1.8 million people.
71% Latino They represent 30% of those on welfare. 1.35 million people
57% women They represent 85% of adults on welfare.
So, just the blacks and latinos, if turnout was 40%, that is 1.26 million votes. Nearly all for Obongo.
The DNC is a coalition of small groups with special interests. There wasn’t much difference between Romney and Obama on Foreign policy. Economy was Romney’s strong suit, but it is not the American people’s strong suit, so they are clueless. They believed the economy was getting better, because Obozo said so, and he gives them stuff.
Until the RNC can produce a candidate that can overcome liberal tactics, we will need a huge crash, to bring us back to sanity.


#16

I love to use a foolish argument against those that post them:

Using your insane argument The GOP helped Obama get elected by nominating a Liberal as it’s candidate. Good job you are the reason Obama got elected.


#17

I did. I didn’t vote for Romney.


#18

You make funny jokes Thanatos.


#19

The reason that social conservatism is getting rejected is because the people that limited government appeals to don’t want the same government dictating their sex life or what substances they put in their body.

On the other issues, we definitely need to protect Christians and other religions from persecution. Persecution is definitely what preventing nativity scenes is, and what preventing Christians from praying is.

God gave us free will, though, and people will have to answer for their sins, but the government can’t and shouldn’t legislate it. We will lose every single other issue if we keep social conservatism on the ballot.

In many cases, like with the war on drugs, the drugs are what cause the poverty and the violence in minority communities that drive them to government dependence. If drugs were legalized, we could keep the people using them out of society.

Bring up gay marriage with any group of young people and you will have a 20 minute conversation before you can get back to a real issue, like the economy.

It boils down to the fact that we honestly can’t come up with one reason they will agree with that they shouldn’t be allowed to marry. They either believe that Jesus accepts all people and judge us on our character only (a healthy belief, I think) or they don’t believe in God at all.

We could have connected with these young people on economic issues; things have never been worse for them, but instead, they won’t even listen past the gay marriage issue.

We can end this war on women nonsense with socially conservative values, however. For instance, we can punish fathers who abandon their children with higher child support payments and we can set up a national program to bring child support evaders to justice and play a part in helping single mothers.

We could probably get sin taxes on abortion. Abortion is damaging the economy in a large way because it is preventing us from paying for social security and medicare, and the taxes could go to help pay for those programs.

I wish that we didn’t have to go down this route to win elections, but I don’t see any other way unless you can somehow convince a majority that gay marriage is wrong and immoral.


#20

And I’m not trying to hurt anyone’s feelings or alienate them - we just really need to win elections or the country will be permanently socialist in the near future, and that will be the future we have to live in.

No city on a hill, no hope, just slavery.