Hillary Clinton on the NAFTA ___ in her own lying words!


Hillary Clinton has repeatedly stated that the NAFTA is about free trade. But, the irrefutable fact is, the NAFTA, is not, and never was about “free trade”. It has always been about creating a managed trade which is managed by a group of individuals who are not elected by the American people, who have no allegiance to America or any nation, and their only guiding principle is their bottom line profits, regardless of how it affects the nations involved!

Keep in mind Congress, and only Congress, has been delegated the power to regulate commerce with foreign nations. The NAFTA, which Hillary Clinton is a big fan of, subjugates Congress’s [the people’s elected representatives], delegated power to regulate commerce with foreign nations and allows an un-elected group to take over, a majority of whom are foreigners, and who make arbitrarily binding decisions concerning America’s commerce with Canada and Mexico see Establishment of Binational Panels

And, under 1904:Review of Final Antidumping and Countervailing Duty Determinations the United States is forbidden to “provide in its domestic legislation for an appeal from a panel decision to its domestic courts.”

Also, under 1904: Review of Final Antidumping and Countervailing Duty Determinations the United States is required to amend its statutes and regulations “to ensure that its courts shall give full force and effect, with respect to any person within its jurisdiction, to all sanctions imposed pursuant to the laws of the other Parties to enforce…”

This of course puts American businesses and industries involved in trade with Canada and Mexico under the jurisdiction of a foreign power. Is this not one of the indictments contained in the Declaration of Independence, namely: “He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our law; giving his Assent to the Acts of pretended Legislation”.

And, if the above is not enough to cause concern for freedom loving Americans, Under Annex 1904.15: Amendments to Domestic Laws Schedule of the United States the United States is required to “amend section 301 of the Customs Courts Act of l980, as amended, and any other relevant provisions of law, to eliminate the authority to issue declaratory judgments in any civil action involving an antidumping or countervailing duty proceeding regarding a class of kind of Canadian or Mexican merchandise.”

This, in essence, deprives American domestic businesses and industries the protections of our judicial system, and requires them to submit to a foreign judicial power if they complain or question what foreigners involved in commerce are doing on American Soil!”

Hillary Clinton in her support for the NAFTA has violated her oath to support and defend our Constitution by ignoring the exclusive power to regulate commerce is placed in Congress’ hands, and not some unelected panel which is created under the NAFTA to advance the interests of our Global Governance Crowd

Now, let us review HILLARY CLINTON ON THE NAFTA in her own lying words!


To support Hillary Clinton is to support our Global Governance Crowd and their Fast Track Trade Promotion Authority, WTO, NAFTA, GATT, CAFTA, and the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) deal ___ all used to circumvent America First trade policies, while fattening the fortunes of Hillary Clinton’s international corporate giant donors who have no allegiance to America or any nation.


Can anyone, name a success by out govt say, going back to just after WWII? Look at the TRILLIONS we have spent on anything and everything and yet the positive results that resulted from wise and prudent investment is just not to be found with a few, very few exceptions:

NASA: Post man on the moon it has been a long slow spiral down into an abyss of mediocrity to the point that we are having to buy a friggin ticket from the Ruskys to get into outer space. I have done some consulting work for NASA back in the early 90’s and it was evident they had lost their way.

DoD: Dept of Defense. The soldier has won and won on the battlefields of the world and its been politics that has caused more loss of American lives and less wars won than anything else, the solider has done his job better than anyone else in the world.

There maybe a few other bright spots down at low levels where you can still find a few folks who take pride in the job they did and are proud of their application of the taxpayers money to a solution…but you will need to dig to find them.

IF anyone has something please post it up…


Actually, I can, Dan.

One thing. Consolidated Rail Corporation, known as Conrail. It was the remnants of the Penn Central Railroad, which itself was the merged wreckage of the New York Central System and the Pennsylvania Railroad. Despite their names, the two and the merged company, formed in 1967, was the major railroad from New Jersey to Chicago, as far south as St. Louis and as far north as Maine.

It went bankrupt in 1970. The primary reason was ineffective, chaotic management; the merger was poorly planned and done even worse. There were major differences between those two companies.

But the underlying cause was over-regulation of the railroads - making shorter-haul railroads, as they were in the Northeast, unprofitable. The Western lines, with longer runs between major interchanges, could still make money under the ICC tariff structure - but it was razor-thin even for them.

Poor management came of that - because managing a railroad in those years was being a whipping-boy to government regulators and angry shareholders. So, management all up and down was incompetent.

The Penn Central was one of the first major bail-outs the Federal Government got into…the other big one being Lockheed. PC got money in 1970 and later years to keep running - but losses kept on growing. They got court permission to cease local tax payments - causing more fights in all the states it served. They started selling everything they had, real estate (which they had a large amount of) and even railway equipment (leasing equipment to replace the sold locomotives and rolling stock). And in 1974, they’d run out of ways to scam and sell and steal and beg.

Long story, Congress authorized a quasi-private corporation to receive the remnants of the Penn Central, Jersey Central and New Haven railroads - to be called Consolidated Rail. Later, the receivers of the bankrupt Erie-Lackawanna Railway, which was a Penn Central competitor and also bankrupt…filed a motion in court that they could not restructure the railroad.

Erie-Lackawanna was forced into ConRail, as it was called then, at the last minute.

Now…this was a more chaotic start than even Amtrak. Why did it work? Serendipity. Right from the start, a large amount of management deadwood took retirement or quit, not wanting to work for the government. Then, ConRail recruited a very-energetic railroad executive, the head of the Southern Railway, named Stanley Crane. Crane was being forced out because of mandatory retirement at 65; and Crane was a very-youthful 64. He was having FUN running the Southern; running it hard and profitably and well.

So, Consolidated Rail solicited him. He took the job.

And he recruited kids…recent college grads, young people who were “foamers,” what we railroaders call rail buffs. They were fans but they were educated - and they saw this as a chance of a lifetime. Remake a major railroad; do it THEIR way, smarter; the old guy at the top was all ears and with plenty of energy.

They signed on. But ConRail was, at first, a government money-pit - like Amtrak.

Crane heavily lobbied Congress to deregulate the rail industry - the Staggers Act, which got pushed through in 1981. Reagan signed it, IIRC. That gave railroads MUCH more flexibility in scheduling runs and adjusting tariffs (rates).

Once Staggers was enacted, Conrail became profitably. Amazingly so - partly due to the energy in the staff. Sales forces actually went out SOLICITING business - unheard of in the rail industry. New ways of moving truck-trailers were tried. Electronics were tried to control locomotive fuel usage. Welded rail became universal.

Reagan was ideologically opposed to the Penn Central bailout and the creation of Conrail. He had pledged even before the election, he would either sell Conrail, sell its pieces, or rip it out. But he couldn’t do that when it was making money hand-over-fist, paying back the Treasury for the money poured into it four years earlier.

That was the atmosphere around the 1985 public sale of Conrail stock. And the privatized Conrail repaid its Federal creation costs - and was the most profitable railroad in the East right up until its two Eastern competitors bought it and broke it in half.

There was a LOT of happenstance and good luck and right-people-right-place in that story…but it DID work out for the government involvement. That’s not to say it’s a recommendation to do it again…the Amtrak story is as sorry as the Conrail story is successful.


Which just goes to show, if you shower more money on something then it’s worth, eventually something in the pile will right itself.

Which is exactly what’s happened to Tesla Motors. It was saved by bailouts (though it paid off its loans with other bailout money), so we’ll just forget about the 100s of other companies that also received money who failed, leaving the Government “venture capital” program with less money than it was given.


Not exactly. Amtrak has been showered with money tenfold - and it’s a money-sump still.

Tesla is a chapter still being written - but in the end, it’s almost-certainly going to fail. There’s not the market for what they are offering and based on existing technology there may never be.

I’m not advocating bailouts; but a number of things fell into place to make Conrail one exception to the rule. Given new, competent staff and reduced regulation, the result and the return were both almost immediate.


The whole “green energy” thing was a money laundering operation.


80% of green energy money taxed away from hard working American Citizens WENT TO the Hillary Clinton / Obama Administration’s donors!


Throwing money at something is far from any guarantee that it will be a success. Which is how the Govt works. I was just talking with a person in IT at the VA. He was excited that the govt is or has released a contract to integrate the VA health systems with the military systems…I said to him, have been in the VA long enough to remember the project to do that which failed. He said No. I told him the VA/DoD spent just over $1 Billion on the project to integrate the VA/military system and killed it because it failed. I think his face turned white and he said are you kidding? NO!

This approach by the govt is SOP. They kill the program after having spent $1 Billion and then a few years later it raisess its ugly head again, different name, different people same failure.

Like I said you will need to dig deep, long and hard to find any program in govt that is/was a success. I will take JPT at his word on ConRail and there are people in Govt that are very successful, but they are a rare bird and in danger in extinction in todays govt.


One thing for certain it wasn’t the Obama / Clinton Administration’s “green energy” PROGRAM!

There is a whole lot wrong when hard working people living in our nation’s inner cities have their earned wages taxed away by the federal government which are then redistributed to our Washington Establishment’s inside crowd. It’s called robbery, and an example is the Obama / Clinton Administration’s green energy money laundering operation which steals the bread hard working people in our nation’s inner cities have earned.

Let us take a look at the list who have profited off working people‘s earned wages being transferred to them by Obama:

• Beacon Power Corp: Received $43 million in federal loan guaranteed in 2009 and also received $29 million in PA grants – Bankrupt in October 2011

• Ener1 (parent company of EnerDel): Received $118.5 million in federal loan guarantees — Bankrupt in January 2012 – has since exited bankruptcy

• Evergreen Solar: Received $58 million in MA loan guarantees (an undisclosed portion sourced from federal ARRA block grant) — Bankrupt in August 2011 with $485.6 million in debt

• Solyndra: Received $535 million in federal loan guarantees in 2009 and $25.1 million in CA tax credit — Bankrupt in August 2011

• SpectraWatt: Received $500,000 in federal loan guarantees in 2009 — Bankrupt in August 2011

• Babcock and Brown: Received $178 million in federal grants in December 2009 (4 months after it went bust) – Bankrupt in early 2009

• Mountain Plaza Inc.: Received $424,000 in federal grants through TN Department of Transportation in 2009 — Bankrupt in 2003 and again in June 2010

• Solar Trust of America (parent company: Solar Millennium): Received $2.1 billion loan guarantee in April 2011 – Bankrupt in April 2012
Other Subsidized Green Energy Companies in decline:

• A123: Received $300 million in federal grants and $135 million in MI grants — Declining orders and have forced multiple layoffs

• Amonix, Inc.: Received $5.9 million in federal tax credits in 2009 through ARRA — Laid off 2/3 of work force

• First Solar: Received $3 billion in federal loan guarantees — Biggest S&P loser in 2011, CEO fired

• Fisker Automotive: $529 million in federal loan guarantees — Multiple 2012 sales prediction downgrades for first car release, delivery and cash flow troubles; Assembling cars in Finland

• Johnson Controls: Received $299 million in federal grants in 2009 — Low demand caused cancellation of a new factory, operating at half capacity

• Nevada Geothermal: Received $98.5 million in federal loan guarantees in 2009 — Defaulting on long-term debt obligations, 85% drop in stock value

• Sun Power: Received $1.2 billion in federal loan guarantees — Debt exceeds assets; French oil company took over last fall

• Abound Solar: Received $400 million in federal loans in 2012 — ½ work force laid off

• BrightSource Energy: $1.6 billion federal loan approved in April 2012 – loan obtained through political connections with the administration; absent the loan, Brightsource’s solar power purchase would have fallen through.

see:Green Energy’s Bankruptcy Blackout

Also see: 80% of Obama green jobs money goes to Obama donors.

Why does the democrat party leadership hate hard working people living in our nation’s inner cities who are having their earned wages swindled from them by the Obama / Clinton Administration? Eh?


"To lay with one hand the power of the government on the property of the citizen and with the other to bestow upon favored individuals, to aid private enterprises and build up private fortunes [Obama’s Solyndra, Chevy Volt, Fisker, Exelon swindling deals] is none the less a robbery because it is done under forms of law and called taxation." ____ Savings and Loan Assc. v. Topeka,(1875).