I have a question now that the worst has been realized


#1

Now that BO has managed to convince Americans that he is the supreme being, what will happen with obamacare? Is it a sure thing now? If not, what can be done to repeal it?


#2

OH It is a sure thing! RIGHT now with Obama raiding the existing system of billions per year and Medicare has already curtailed some costs. My wife cannot get one of her specialty shots for her breathing, and my heart medications and possible corrective measures will be controlled by a death board. If you are a senior citizen, think 'Soylent Green" I am dead serious about this. Medical care and research as we have known it will be a thing of the past.


#3

Wow… We really are doomed. I am not quite a senior yet–but not far off. I was going to “escape” to Canada if BO was re-elected, but I just read the other day where Canada is falling apart, too. Well, I suppose this is just the next chapter in the “Rise and Fall of the American Empire.” Our forefathers are turning over…


#4

Rise and Fall of the American Empire

Yep, this is the dependency stage. Complacency and apathy are over.

It used to be just minorities in the dependency stage, now, it is pretty much everyone. Our chance to stop it was gone long ago.

Ironically, the bad economy propelled the nation into this, and high European style unemployment will in fact be the new normal. And none of us are going to be able to do a thing.


#5

I have the same sinking feeling in my gut, too. America will never be the same.


#6

[quote=“ClassicalTeacher, post:5, topic:36971”]
I have the same sinking feeling in my gut, too. America will never be the same.
[/quote]Take heart, CT. We have lived through things like this before. We still have the House. If one man’s warped vision can bring down the greatest country on Earth this easily, we were doomed a long time ago.
All we can do now, is stay true to our principles and fight for what is right. Pray for Obama, since he is going to need all the help he can get.
We are instructed by our Scriptures to pray for our leaders, even if we cannot stand the sight of them, anymore. We need to focus on surviving this fiasco. It is, what it is.
But, Romney was right. Half the country will never take full responsibility for their lives, as long as they have politicians who will sell their souls, and their country, to garner votes.
No, America will never be the same, but maybe, in time, we can make her better. Keep your chin up, CT. It ain’t the end of the world. (Sorry for the bad grammar.)


#7

Thanks, Tiny. Your words are really comforting. Yes, I know that Our Lord is our true Leader and we must cling to Him and not worry about everything else. Someone once said that we get the president we deserve. I don’t know who or when this was said, but it couldn’t be truer. It is just so sad, so sad. I really feel broken hearted as I had such hope that things would start to get better. But, there seems to be a major shift in what Americans value these days. I would have said their wallets, but that doesn’t seem to be right because re-electing BO just means more and higher unemployment, higher deficits and economic decay. I just don’t know what has happened to this once great country. All things happen for a purpose–and I pray that this too has a purpose for all of us.

P.S. Your grammar is just fine! Thank you for caring enough to give me some words of wisdom to ponder!


#8

I’m not comforted. This socialist potus and his liberal senate will change the face of the nation. He has the SCOTUS in his pocket, and the weinie congress will pee all over themselves to do obescience to the king. We have lost more than you know.


#9

I tend to disagree,I dont think anything will get done at all. With congress divided between both parties expect gridlock for the next 4 years. The only way this country gets anything done anymore is if the country gives one party enough control to over-ride the minority party in both houses of congress.


#10

My heart breaks because I know all too well what the situation is right now and what our future will be. I feel like I have awakened from a horrible dream only to realize that the dream is reality. Our country will never be the same. Like the Roman Empire, we will succumb to our own choices and fade into history as a once great civilization that was corrupted from the inside out.


#11

You said a mouthful.

Comforted? By what? The fact that well over half this country is too stupid, indoctrinated, and/or selfish to be WORTH saving?

Sorry, foks. I spent too many years putting every effort into fighting the good fight through giving, attempting to teach, writing Congress, and working my hind-end off only to get kicked in the teeth.
I will NEVER fall for it again.

For now on out, y’all will have to do without me 'cuz I’ll be a little too busy looking out for my own survival.

(And yes, NJC, sad as it is, my own D-in-L got told where to go as a result of her contribution to the fall of our once great nation.)


#12

[quote=“ClassicalTeacher, post:7, topic:36971”]
Thanks, Tiny. Your words are really comforting. Yes, I know that Our Lord is our true Leader and we must cling to Him and not worry about everything else. Someone once said that we get the president we deserve. I don’t know who or when this was said, but it couldn’t be truer. It is just so sad, so sad. I really feel broken hearted as I had such hope that things would start to get better. But, there seems to be a major shift in what Americans value these days. I would have said their wallets, but that doesn’t seem to be right because re-electing BO just means more and higher unemployment, higher deficits and economic decay. I just don’t know what has happened to this once great country. All things happen for a purpose–and I pray that this too has a purpose for all of us.

P.S. Your grammar is just fine! Thank you for caring enough to give me some words of wisdom to ponder!
[/quote]My pleasure, kind lady. The real bummer, is that we are not going to seek Energy Independence. This was the only thing that could have generated enough revenue to get us out of this mess.
Taxes are going up. Gas prices are going up. Food prices will also rise. So:
I am increasing production in my garden.
I am looking to downsize my truck.
I am looking to find investments I can use to reduce my taxes.
I am going to “hunker down” and make the best of this, while working to return my state, to sanity. We in NC, did the right things. We voted against Obozo. We elected a conservative Governor. We sent conservatives back to Congress. Hopefully, we will see some relief as a State.
Keep your chin up, and look to better your own situation. I really don’t care about the National problems, anymore. I can do absolutely nothing to change them. However, I can work to strengthen our local situations, and solve State based problems.


#13

Great advice, Tiny. And, very wise to realize that there is very little anyone can do to change the tide now. The “people” have spoken, I guess. Food is already outrageously expensive here in OH. I can barely find anything that isn’t $3.00 or more in the store! I couldn’t get over the price of tuna fish–in the cheapest brand possible! And gas here went from $4.00 a gallon a few weeks ago down to $3.80. I don’t get it. Do you remember back when Carter was in the WH, I believe it was he who changed all the interstate highway speed limits to 55 mph. I remember that he said this was going to help keep the price of gasoline down and would give us better mileage. Didn’t happen. I remember, too, when cable TV was first on the scene. We were told that by paying a monthly fee for cable television, we wouldn’t have to endure commercials anymore. Now, just the basic package for cable runs at least $60.00 a month and higher–especially if you decide to “bundle”. And guess what? There are more commercials on cable than on regular network tv! But, we buy into all that hype and lies. And someone please tell me how Klinton managed to mandate that everyone had to have a high-density TV? I am befuddled totally.


#14

[quote=“ClassicalTeacher, post:13, topic:36971”]
Great advice, Tiny. And, very wise to realize that there is very little anyone can do to change the tide now. The “people” have spoken, I guess. Food is already outrageously expensive here in OH. I can barely find anything that isn’t $3.00 or more in the store! I couldn’t get over the price of tuna fish–in the cheapest brand possible! And gas here went from $4.00 a gallon a few weeks ago down to $3.80. I don’t get it. Do you remember back when Carter was in the WH, I believe it was he who changed all the interstate highway speed limits to 55 mph. I remember that he said this was going to help keep the price of gasoline down and would give us better mileage. Didn’t happen. I remember, too, when cable TV was first on the scene. We were told that by paying a monthly fee for cable television, we wouldn’t have to endure commercials anymore. Now, just the basic package for cable runs at least $60.00 a month and higher–especially if you decide to “bundle”. And guess what? There are more commercials on cable than on regular network tv! But, we buy into all that hype and lies. And someone please tell me how Klinton managed to mandate that everyone had to have a high-density TV? I am befuddled totally.
[/quote]Well, I submit to you, that you must now, as 2cent says, look out for your own survival. Do you have an area, you can devote to raising some of your own food? I can, and will be all too eager, to help. You’d be surprised how much you can benefit by a 4’X8’ space or two. Also, look to find local farms to deal with. Community gardens are common, and increasing in size and number. Maybe you can opt in to one of those.
Energy is going to skyrocket. Given. Taxes will rise. Expected. Jobs will remain stagnant, as will the rest of the economy. Inevitable. All we can do, is weather the storm, and try to find a place that will support our positions/beliefs. The RNC is obviously not that place. Cam and Jazzhead are the face of the New Republican Party. The fact that they will be geldings, politically, gives pause to supporting them. They are already blaming us for their loss, and that solidifies the point that they are no different than the DNC. Obongo blames Bush, and the Liberal Pubbies blame us. Same, same. All we can do, is the best we can. Don’t let it affect your happiness. We are ultimately responsible for our own happiness. 1 moment of sorrow, is one less moment of happiness available in your life. Do not let them win, by causing you to lose hope. Stand Strong. The sun doesn’t shine on the same dog’s hind parts, all the time.


#15

I doubt you want to tell me, but why is that? I don’t think the ACA has reduced any coverage for Medicare recipients.

And yes, it is a sure thing.


#16

Tiny…to be clear…I am NOT blaming mainstream social cons for the loss. I am saying that the dominance of social cons in the party and their elimination of any candidates who don’t toe the social con line…is NO LONGER a winning possibility nationally…while it certainly is in states like NC and others…more and more states will not elect a social con to a state wide or national ballot. The Republican Party needs to remove some of the social con stuff from the Platform and NON-social con candidates should be welcome under the tent in places where THEY reflect the majority opinions in their states.
I DON’T expect social cons will allow this change…so we will continue to lose ground.


#17

I just hope that those who literally WANTED this country to go into the tank to “teach us a lesson” are happy now.

…and broke, and hungry, and cold, and miserable in their glee.


#18

The worst hasn’t been realized. The Republicans still hold the House, and if people like you threaten them, they can and will block any new Obama initiatives. The worst would have been a return to the Barack, Nancy, Harry triumvirate. As far as Obamacare goes, the record for getting rid of any government once it has grown is bleak. Those of us old enough are still waiting for Ronald Reagan to abolish the Department of Education. The only roadblock remaining for Obamacare is the suits filed by religious institutions. Who knows what happens there.


#19

We cannot allow, or disallow anything. The majority of Social conservatives I know, supported Romney. The problem you have, is exactly what Romney said it was. 47%ers. Those are your real enemies, not social conservatives. Our beliefs are always under attack from someone, and we are used to getting less than we bargain for.
It is the entitlement crowd, you guys cannot defeat. You ran a guy who fits the class warfare rhetoric. All the nonsense about EXPLAINING their plans, is for naught. They should just jump in there, promise them the world, get elected, and govern according to conservative capitalism, and the Constitution. That is what the Dems do. We have to find a way to take the elections out of the hands of the 47%.


#20

[QUOTE=Cam;553257]Tiny…to be clear…I am NOT blaming mainstream social cons for the loss. I am saying that the dominance of social cons in the party and their elimination of any candidates who don’t toe the social con line…is NO LONGER a winning possibility nationally…while it certainly is in states like NC and others…more and more states will not elect a social con to a state wide or national ballot. The Republican Party needs to remove some of the social con stuff from the Platform and NON-social con candidates should be welcome under the tent in places where THEY reflect the majority opinions in their states.

Cam: I don’t agree with what you are saying. You basically, and correct me if I’m wrong, are saying that in order to win elections, social conservatives must compromise their beliefs. I’m a Catholic and if there’s anything I learned from being a Catholic–a TRUE Catholic–is that one can never, EVER compromise their convictions–that is, those things for which they believe are intrinsicly evil. Many saints in the past have been martyred because they refused to compromise their beliefs. I know this is going to sound real corny and over the top, but I would literally give my life to defend my beliefs and convictions that all human life is precious and must be defended, that marriage is a holy union between one man and one woman, that homosexual acts are deviant and evil, that every American has the right to bear arms, that religion must be protected from government intrusion, and that every human being has the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, and most importantly, that Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. I’ve never been in the military, but I would die before I would ever deny these truths, let alone compromise them in order to win elections. We seem to have forgotten that our fore fathers gave their lives before compromising what they believed to be right and just. So have so many who came after them. There are many who do exactly that every day in foreign countries–including the 4 Americans brutally murdered in Benghazi which so many Americans rendered a long, bored, yawn at the polls yesterday. Only when their precious liberties are practically gone will they ask themselves what happened. But, by then, it will be too late. Our poor children…what have we done to their future? BTW, who was it who said, “Death before dishonor”?

(I don’t know why this didn’t copy the quote correctly. I am always having problems with the “reply with quote” feature.)