I Need An Answer From You OLD FARTS!

Yes, I’m an Old Fart myself so … I cannot be reported to the PC police!

I’ve been watching Turner movies and I just wanted to ask you other Old Farts … Who, today is equal to yesterdays actors?

Actors like Paul Newman, Steve Mcqueen, Marlon Brando, Clark Gable, Tyrone power, Earl Flynn, James Cagney, Edward G Robinson … etc. etc.

Yes, I asked about the men simply because I know that we have Kim kardashian which would be the answer to the female roles!:banana:

Seriously, can anyone give me some answers to who is as good as the male (or female) actors of yesteryear?

Name ONE actor today who will be remembered fifty years from now?

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Most of the modern “idols” are totally unknown by me. What few I have seen do not, IMHO, meet the standards of the old stars.
Course that might say more about my age than anything else!! :banana:


…ditto that. By the way, it’s ERROL Flynn, not “Earl.”


The current crop of stars absolutely bore me and in several cases I deliberately avoid them because of their politics. Oh I recognize a few names of some but on the whole that does not make me want to watch their shows.


Patrick Stewart
Anthony Hopkins
Liam Neeson
Tommy Lee Jones
Sean Connery
James McAvoy
Bruce Willis
Steve Buscemi
William Dafoe
Tom Hardy
Joseph Gordon-Levitt
Hugh Jackman
Christopher Walken
Edward Norton

That’s a quick list off the top of my head but these can hold their own with anybody and most have already amassed a body of work that will be filling the classic movie channels for many decades to come.


I don’t really follow today’s movies much. The only current actor that I sort of like, is Johnny Depp. I like him because he’s not limited to one kind of character. He’s made some dark movies. One I didn’t like, but for some strange reason want to see again is “Dead Man”.

On the female side, I think Merle Streep is a good actress.


Tom Hanks?

Sylvester Stallone?

Meryl Streep?

Maggie Smith?

Patrick Stewart?

Jodie Foster?

Johnny Depp?

Hugh Jackman?

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I think those for sure and most of them maybe are in fact “Old Farts” and all but retired.

George Gobel comedian, Army Air Corps, taught fighter pilots. Johnny Carson made a big deal about it once on the Tonight Show, to which George said "the Japs didn’t get past us.

Sterling Hayden , US Marines and OSS . Smuggled guns into Yugoslavia and parachuted into Croatia. Silver Star.

James Stewart , US Army Air Corps. Bomber pilot who rose to the rank of General.

Ernest Borgnine , US Navy. Gunners Mate 1c, destroyer USS Lamberton. 10 years active duty. Discharged 1941, re-enlisted after Pearl Harbor .

Ed McMahon , US Marines. Fighter Pilot. (Flew OE-1 Bird Dogs over Korea as well.)

Walter Matthau , US Army Air Corps., B-24 Radioman/Gunner and cryptographer.

Steve Forrest , US Army. Wounded, Battle of the Bulge.

Jonathan Winters , USMC. Battleship USS Wisconsin and Carrier USS Bon Homme Richard. Anti-aircraft gunner, Battle of Okinawa.

Paul Newman , US Navy Rear seat gunner/radsioman, torpedo bombers of USS Bunker Hill.

Kirk Douglas , US Navy. Sub-chaser in the Pacific. Wounded in action and medically discharged.

Robert Mitchum , US Army.

Dale Robertson , US Army. Tank Commander in North Africa under Patton. Wounded twice. Battlefield Commission.

Henry Fonda , US Navy. Destroyer USS Satterlee.

John Carroll , US Army Air Corps. Pilot in North Africa . Broke his back in a crash.

Lee Marvin US Marines. Sniper. Wounded in action on Saipan . Buried in Arlington National Cemetery, Sec. 7A next to Greg Boyington and Joe Louis.

Art Carney , US Army. Wounded on Normandy beach, D-Day. Limped for the rest of his life.

Wayne Morris , US Navy fighter pilot, USS Essex. Downed seven Japanese fighters.

Rod Steiger , US Navy. Was aboard one of the ships that launched the Doolittle Raid.

Tony Curtis , US Navy. Sub tender USS Proteus. In Tokyo Bay for the surrender of Japan .

Larry Storch . US Navy. Sub tender USS Proteus with Tony Curtis.

Forrest Tucker , US Army. Enlisted as a private, rose to Lieutenant.

Robert Montgomery , US Navy

George Kennedy , US Army. Enlisted after Pearl Harbor , stayed in sixteen years.

Mickey Rooney , US Army under Patton. Bronze Star.

Denver Pyle , US Navy. Wounded in the Battle of Guadalcanal . Medically discharged.

Burgess Meredith , US Army Air Corps

DeForest Kelley , US Army Air Corps.

Robert Stack , US Navy. Gunnery Officer.

Neville Brand , US Army, Europe . Was awarded the Silver Star and Purple Heart.

Tyrone Power , US Marines. Transport pilot in the Pacific Theater.

Charlton Heston, US Army Air Corps. Radio operator and aerial gunner on a B-25, Aleutians .

Danny Aiello , US Army. Lied about his age to enlist at 16. Served three years.

James Arness , US Army. As an infantryman, he was severely wounded at Anzio , Italy .

Efram Zimbalist, Jr ., US Army. Purple Heart for a severe wound received at Huertgen Forest .

Mickey Spillane , US Army Air Corps, Fighter Pilot and later Instructor Pilot.

Rod Serling . US Army. 11th Airborne Division in the Pacific. He jumped at Tagaytay in the Philippines and was later wounded in Manila .

Gene Autry , US Army Air Corps. Crewman on transports that ferried supplies over “The Hump” in the China-Burma-India Theater.

William Holden , US Army Air Corps.

Alan Hale Jr , US Coast Guard.

Harry Dean Stanton , US Navy. Battle of Okinawa .

Russell Johnson , US Army Air Corps. B-24 crewman who was awarded Purple Heart when his aircraft was shot down by the Japanese in the Philippines .

William Conrad , US Army Air Corps. Fighter Pilot.

Jack Klugman , US Army.

Frank Sutton , US Army. Took part in 14 assault landings, including Leyte, Luzon, Bataan and Corregidor .

Jackie Coogan , US Army Air Corps. Volunteered for gliders and flew troops and materials into Burma behind enemy lines.

Tom Bosley , US Navy.

Claude Akins , US Army. Signal Corps. , Burma and the Philippines .

Chuck Connors , US Army. Tank-warfare instructor.

Harry Carey Jr ., US Navy.

Mel Brooks , US Army. Combat Engineer. Saw action in the Battle of the Bulge.

Robert Altman , US Army Air Corps. B-24 Co-Pilot.

Pat Hingle , US Navy. Destroyer USS Marshall

Fred Gwynne , US Navy. Radioman.

Karl Malden , US Army Air Corps. 8th Air Force, NCO.

Earl Holliman . US Navy. Lied about his age to enlist. Discharged after a year when the Navy found out.

Rock Hudson , US Navy. Aircraft mechanic, the Philippines .

Harvey Korman , US Navy.

Aldo Ray . US Navy. UDT frogman, Okinawa .

Don Knotts , US Army, Pacific Theater.

Don Rickles , US Navy aboard USS Cyrene

Harry Dean Stanton , US Navy. Served aboard an LST in the Battle of Okinawa .

Robert Stack , US Navy. Gunnery Instructor.

Soupy Sales , US Navy. Served on USS Randall in the South Pacific.

Lee Van Cleef , US Navy. Served aboard a sub chaser then a mine sweeper.

Clifton James , US Army, South Pacific. Was awarded the Silver Star, Bronze Star, and Purple Heart.

Ted Knight , US Army, Combat Engineers.

Jack Warden , US Navy, 1 938-1942 , then US Army, 1 942-1945 . 101st Airborne Division.

Don Adams . US Marines. Wounded on Guadalcanal , then served as a Drill Instructor.

James Gregory , US Navy and US Marines.

Brian Keith , US Marines. Radioman/Gunner in Dauntless dive-bombers.

Fess Parker , US Navy and US Marines. Booted from pilot training for being too tall, joined Marines as a radio operator.

Charles Durning . US Army. Landed at Normandy on D-Day. Shot multiple times. Awarded the Silver Star and Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts. Survived Malmedy Massacre.

Raymond Burr , US Navy. Shot in the stomach on Okinawa and medically discharged.

Hugh O’Brian , US Marines.

Robert Ryan , US Marines.

Eddie Albert , US Coast Guard. Bronze Star with Combat V for saving several Marines under heavy fire as pilot of a landing craft during the invasion of Tarawa.

Cark Gable , US Army Air Corps. B-17 gunner over Europe.

Charles Bronson , US Army Air Corps. B-29 gunner, wounded in action.

Peter Graves , US Army Air Corps.

Buddy Hackett , US Army anti-aircraft gunner.

Victor Mature , US Coast Guard.

Jack Palance , US Army Air Corps. Severely injured bailing out of a burning B-24 bomber.

Robert Preston , US Army Air Corps. Intelligence Officer

Cesar Romero , US Coast Guard. Coast Guard. Participated in the invasions of Tinian and Saipan on the assault transport USS Cavalier.

Norman Fell , US Army Air Corps., Tail Gunner, Pacific Theater.

Jason Robards , US Navy. was aboard heavy cruiser USS Northampton when it was sunk off Guadalcanal. Also served on the USS Nashville during the invasion of the Philippines , surviving a kamikaze hit that caused 223 casualties.

Steve Reeves , US Army , Philippines .

Dennis Weaver , US Navy. Pilot.

Robert Taylor , US Navy. Instructor Pilot.

Randolph Scott . Tried to enlist in the Marines but was rejected due to injuries sustained in US Army, World War 1.

Ronald Reagan . US Army. Was a 2nd Lt. in the Cavalry Reserves before the war. His poor eyesight kept him from being sent overseas with his unit when war came so he transferred to the Army Air Corps Public Relations Unit where he served for the duration.

John Wayne . Declared “4F medically unfit” due to pre-existing injuries, he nonetheless attempted to volunteer three times (Army, Navy and Film Corps.) so he gets honorable mention.

And of course we have Audie Murphy, America 's most-decorated soldier, who became a Hollywood star as a result of his US Army service that included his being awarded the Medal of Honor.

As for todays screen hacks, very few can hold a candle, most will never last a lifetime like the Old Farts did.


When I replied I was thinking of the most current actors. Sure there are some old farts still acting I will tune into watch but all in all the new guys do not impress me.


I like Adrien Brody (“The Pianist”), Daniel-Day Lewis (“My Left Foot”), Edward Norton (“The Painted Veil”), Jim Caviezel (“The Passion of the Christ”), Ralph Fiennes (“Schindler’s List”), Gary Sinese (“CSI: NY”), Jeremy Irons (“Reversal of Fortune”), Ben Kingsley (“Schindler’s List”), Tom Hardy (“Lawless”), Kevin Spacey (“Seven”), Denzel Washington (“American Gangster”), and Brad Pitt (“Fury”).

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Don’t like anybody in the industry, All pretenders. can’t live life without a script


I thought Russell Johnson was in B-25s, not B-24s (bombardier, if I remember the Yahoo headline correctly).

Was that “Alan Hale Jr.” the same Alan Hale who played the Skipper on Gilligan’s Island?

Although he wasn’t an actor, Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry was a navigator on B-17s (in the Pacific, I think).

James Doohan, who played Scotty on Star Trek, served in the Canadian armed forces. One book said it was the Canadian Air Force, but Doohan himself said (I saw him at a science fiction convention in '89) it was artillery.

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I was surprised (and pleased) to see that Lee Marvin is buried in Arlington cemetery. Great actor.


OOPS … sorry pappa:sad:

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I like Depp because he came up with one of the funniest comebacks when a reporter asked his opinion on some political subject.
(Don’t remember what it was)

Not his exact words but as close as I can remember: “Why would anybody want an opinion from someone who makes faces for a living”?


No big deal, Sillipuddi…and I’m CERTAINLY not anyone who needs an apology from YOU!

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Bruce Willis. Sylvester Stallone, Arnold Schwarzenegger…NOT because they are exemplary men…they ARE men. with all their flaws.

They come closest to what the 40s thru 60s actors were…that would be Americans…and patriots.

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Paul Newman
Sidney Poitier
Spencer Tracy
Gregory Peck
Katherine Hepburn
Humphrey Bogart
James Earl Jones
Robert Duval
Tommy Lee Jones
Meryl Streep
Gene Hackman

Younger actors:
Bradley Cooper
Sandra Bullock
Johnny Depp
Tom Hanks

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I don’t know that I would say Katherine Hepburn is any sort of patriot. She’s a stinking leftwinger. She is like the forerunner of the leftist, pseudo intellectual Hollywood actor.


I like older movies…some of these new ones leave us out in the cold.

Omar Sharif in “Dr. Zhivago,” and “The Jazz Singer.”

Clark Gable and Vivien Lee in “Gone With The Wind.”

Robin Williams in “Man of the Year,” “Mrs. Doubtfire,” and “Good Morning Vietnam.”

Alan Rickman as Snape in the Harry Potter movies.

The whole cast in the original Star Trek movies.

Stacy Keach, “Mission of the Shark,” true story of the USS Indianapolis

Sam Neill in “Submerged,” story of the first submarine rescue in 1939, USS Squalus