I think we're going to learn a lot in the coming days and weeks

I never said there was no divide, I argued that Trump was not the cause of it and I posted his expanded support to make that argument.

I have yet to hear a coherent argument for how Trump is the source of the division from anyone.

Precisely my point proven, you’re looking for a single source and there is no single source. Trump is a source, not the only source.

To prove your point would require an action by Trump that would be considered “divisive” beyond the normal political positions that the 2 Parties always differ on; if all you have is his political positions then you are effectively saying that to disagree with the Democrats is in itself contemptible and justifies any and all manner of horrific behavior in retribution.

If I am the delusional one who is blinded by my support for this President (who I did not vote for in 2016) then please enlighten me.

“‘The enemy of the people,’ was what the president of the United States called the free press in 2017,” Flake said. “It bears noting that so fraught with malice was the phrase ‘enemy of the people,’ that even Nikita Khrushchev forbade its use, telling the Soviet Communist Party that the phrase had been introduced by Stalin for the purpose of “annihilating such individuals” who disagreed with the supreme leader. This alone should be a source of great shame for us in this body, especially for those of us in the president’s party.”

Divisive language is Trump’s primary action - he uses extreme positions to divide and pit one group violently against another. The attacks on the press are extreme!

The attacks on the press are justified. Since the mainstream press hardly makes a pretense of objectivity any more.

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The press changed its business model about 30ish years ago, realizing that objectivity wasn’t as good for profits as a biased slant.

So what do you suggest we do to correct the problem you see?

I have no desire to debate you, @csbrown28. I am done with you.

As soon as the conversation get’s genuine you leave. I think you just want to complain.

The correction to the problem is to fix the education system, but that is now impossible. Kids are fed the socialist - liberal message from kindergarten. Most all colleges are extremely liberal with no presentations of the other side.

In past times, the 1970s and evening the ‘80s, Hunter Biden’s business dealing would have drawn interest from the press. For example, Jim Wright, a Democrat Speaker of House got bounced for doing something, I have forgotten what it was. When George McGovern ran in 1972, the press was all over the questionable aspects of his campaign platform.

Less than 20 years ago, Nancy Pelosi got caught doing some insider trading. Wright, Gingrich and Dennis Haster (deservedly do) got the ax, but Nancy didn’t. The press ignored it and let it pass.

The news was 93% against Trump before the election campaign. During the campaign, it was virtually 100%.

Look, your side has won. Be happy with that and stop harassing those who don’t agree with you. You are not interested in an solutions because you think know them all. So why should I waste my time with you?

Let me ask you a question…

How do we decide what is the truth when teaching children in schools?

Let’s start there.

Because of the way he did business. He was extremely unpopular with a lot of people, some of which he screwed in business dealings.

Despite the claim, he was a successful businessman, he wasn’t and there is lots of evidence that substantiated this that you are ignoring.

As far as Pelosi, there are lots of anecdotal examples of politicians on both sides getting away with murder. Frankly, now more than ever we need good systems of accountability.

93%? Not 94%?

Kidding aside, you pulled those numbers out of your rear end. You act as if all the media is liberal when it isn’t. Between Fox, Newsmax, Sinclair, Blaze Daily caller, and Wall St. Journal. Not to mention the Play that Glenn Beck, Hannity, and Limbaugh get. Not to mention social media.

So please, spare me the “all media is liberal” talking point. It’s not. Conservatives are very well represented.

So it’s harassment when I share my opinions?

The 93% negative news actually came from a Harvard University study. The 100% came from my observations of ABC News. It got so bad, my wife and I stopped watching it; we couldn’t take any more.

As for Pelosi, your reaction is typical, and shows why debating you is a waste of time. Insider trading was (and is) a huge issue at the time, and others had gotten into big trouble over it. Pelosi just laughed it off, and the media covered for her. As I remember it, she made half a million dollars, so it was not a minor event.

Newt Gingrich got bounced over some improper payments in a book deal. That sounds a lot less serious that insider trading, but I know I’m stupid and have ability to judge the issues because I don’t agree with you.

Link?

My saying we need a system of accountability is typical? I have no issue with holding people accountable, I’m just not that familiar with the allegation you’re making.

The only thing that’s NOT liberal/leftist about the Wall Street Journal is the Editorial Page. Get a clue!

Jim Wright lost his seat when it was discovered that he was scamming the system. Sitting Congressmen are NOT supposed to be paid for giving speeches. He tried to get around that by “selling” hundreds of copies of his book to those he was speaking to for them to give to the listeners.

Don’t be lazy, look it up yourself and demonstrate a willingness to learn. Media bias is heavily tilted left and has been for many years. The study and research on this is from a range of sources. There is even a wikipedia page maintained on the topic.

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We’re sitting around waiting to know if mountains of fraudulent ballots in several states are going to be allowed to choose our next president. It’s frustrating. It’s nerve wracking.

Even the Democrats rejected nasty little Kamala, and they rejected her largely before their primary. How long would it take before the president that nobody wants ascended the throne? Grief, this is frustrating.

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The “Press” called the duly elected President of the United States a traitor and a Russian agent run by Putin with no evidence, the press called him a Nazi Racist with no evidence, the press attacked Trumps teenage son, they told the lie that his wife was an illegal immigrant, they published as fact every unsubstantiated accusation and rumor that came from any source and mocked him mercilessly every day while refusing to report his achievements.

So Trump told them that they are the enemy of the people and you snip that comment from that time as the evidence that Trump is “divisive” due to his “divisive language”?

I distinctly remember being angry with Bush 43 for never answering his critics as they lied about him daily, Bush thought responding was “unpresidential” so he let them establish false narratives that persist even today.

If “divisive” means telling the truth and refusing to fear the despicable liars in the media or letting them cement their lies then okay, Trump is divisive.

But I think a better description is that Trump treats everyone with respect and gives them the benefit of the doubt until they prove that they are not worthy of respect, then he treats them exactly the way they do deserve based on their actions.

Trump defeats divisive people and their divisive agendas, Bush’s silence did not net one ounce less of “divisiveness” during his Presidency; it just deprived the people of the truth and governance that they voted for.

In short, the American Press is mostly a propaganda arm of the Democrat Party masquerading as a free press; they are the enemy of the citizens of the United States and they have earned that title.

Thanks to Trump everyone now knows that and as a result their power is diminished to near nothing; I much prefer the Trump approach to the Bush approach but calling it “divisive” as if Trump sent the tone for the relationship is like blaming Pearl Harbor for not getting out of the way of the Japanese.

And blaming Trump for the violence that Democrat groups are committing in this country is inexcusable, the only people responsible for violence from the Left are the people on the Left; there is not one exception.

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Here is one of many. As another poster said, do some work and stop using cheap two words phrases to try to make your point.

Trump news coverage

I am fed up with you. You can go peddle your socialism to someone else, not me. Leave me alone! From now on, here is my one word response to you:

IGNORE

I never heard any of this shit on Fox, and that’s the press.

Trump attacks all of it.

And he had 2 terms, both of which I supported. Lowering oneself to the level of a degenerate makes it a fight that nobody wins.