just watched the Democrat Convention...


#1

It’s safe to say that Bernie is more dangerous than Clinton or Trump. This guy would have America further left than Sweden and broke before the first year of his presidency was over. I will be praying with you all that Clinton doesn’t invoke half of the stuff this guy is peddling.

Places like Cuba and Canada have had decades of government interference in the lives of their citizens, outright manipulating and dictating the pursuits of its citizens based on the “collective” system. Unaccountable, undemocratic, world laggards. In essence, just code for “we will borrow on your behalf and dictate terms on our behalf”. After such failed nation states and sub par performers, this guy is selling the “free everything” ideology. The only policy that he speaks of which resonates with me is criminal justice reform. Healthcare is also a critical issue, but it cannot be a government monopoly, one tier system. It is bound to fail and burden future generations I assure you.

How much of his platform will Clinton be forced to adhere to in order to get Sanders supporters? She almost has to at this point with the ongoing controversies.


#2

It’s safe to say that Bernie is more dangerous than Clinton or Trump. This guy would have America further left than Sweden
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I don’t agree. I believe that ALL democrat politicians goals are EXACTLY the same as Bernie’s. The how they sell those goals & how they achieve those goals are different, but if they win the results will be the same. The ultimate goal of socialism is everybody being economically equal with the wealthy paying for the poor. Why bother with the uphill battle of changing laws to achieve that? You just jump to the end & start all of those social programs & then tax the shit out of people to pay for them. Economic equality through taxation & a big government to monitor everything & everybody. The only real difference between Bernie & Hillary is that Bernie so loves the concept that he doesn’t see that it’s a hard sell. Hillary knows that it’s a hard sell so she is back dooring the issue by making it sound like she is selling something else.


#3

They are vastly different candidates. Clinton is far more central, her choice of VP confirms this. Her global ideals are more in line with Reagan than Trumps. She is also economically further to the right than Trump is in many respects. The question is, how much impact will Bernie and his followers have on the policy going forward?

Bernie surely loves his country and believes in his policies. All who run for president love their country and believe their concepts are correct. Unfortunately, for Sanders and other socialist minded individuals, they don’t see the forest through the trees. Government intervention and excessive spending today at the behest of tomorrow is not a recipe for success. Ignoring the constitution for “fairness” doesn’t work in economics. Provide level playing field, get government out of the lives of it’s citizens, businesses and pursuits and allow natural ambition and innovation to thrive. It is how economies succeed.

Just as Trump and Cruz were quite different, so is Sanders and Clinton. Rand Paul said it best, “spending is bad unless my party is doing it”. Both parties love to spend, both seem to lack an understanding of the situation. With America now over 100% debt to GDP ratio, unless drastic changes are made, hyper inflation and massive dollar devaluation is going to occur. Everyone is punch drunk on spending, it is only a matter of what the money is being spent on. It is why I was a big supporter of Rand Paul, he understood that both the revenue and spending side of the economy needed to be fixed, while ensuring that the Constitution was upheld, liberties expanded. How much could be saved by criminal justice reform alone? Billions in the short term, trillions over a decade. While at the same time ensuring social and economic impact are both wins for the country.


#4

Actually, “Shocked”, Bernie Sanders is precisely where most all Democrats are on the political spectrum - free stuff paid for by the productive - productive defined as those people with good jobs. Hillary has always been further Left than her husband. Even so, she has been forced to move even farther Left due to the political tide within her party. She will say/do whatever is necessary to get elected. That being the case, it is impossible to ascertain just how radically Left she will govern. My guess is it will depend on the direction of the political wind at the time.

I am a firm believer that the country has moved to the Left - it is very difficult to argue the country remains center right. I think it important to note the rapid change in demographics during the last 3 decades. I think this movement Left is the only thing that explains the 2nd term of Obama and the current/apparent dead heat Hillary is in with Trump - she’s a liar and a criminal and people know it and back her anyway. Even the nomination of the often Progressive Trump on the part of Republicans is a tip-off to the direction of many voters within the Republican ranks. Yes, it’s true, Trump is an outsider in an “outsider’s year”. But it is equally true he trends to the Left on several issues.

As for Hillary’s choice of VP - Kaine firms up Virginia in the November election and solidifies her so-called “moderate Democrat” flank among less radical voters. Her VP selection might anger the died in the wool Berners, but let’s face it - where the hell are they going to go?? Those who think Trump will get a meaningful number of votes from this group are, IMHO, full of do do.


#5

I live in Virginia and I will let you in on a secret … Kaine IS NOT a moderate in any shape or form!

He will not win over the conservatives in Virginia or the moderates!

He does nothing for Hillary.

He is liked by the northern trash and minorities in the south and central areas … same as Hillary.
He is pro choice (for abortion) regardless of what the MSM tells you and a supporter of TPP.

He also loves the Illegals!

He and Hillary are the same person, only the outsides are different.

Do some research on the guy before thinking the pos is a moderate and will ‘solidify’ the moderates and pull Hillary to the center!

Kaine is also is a Muslim sympathizer!
(Just a couple articles of the many)

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/10/virginia-senate-candidate-tim-kaine-speaks-at-dinner-honoring-top-muslim-brotherhood-official

Gates of Vienna: Governor Tim Kaine surrenders Virginia to Muslim American Society Freedom Foundation, receives nice dinner as payment


#6

I could ‘flood’ the forum with hundreds of examples of Kaine’s … Not so moderate standings but I think these (examples) will give you a starting point?

Trevor Loundon writes a blog to expose Communist and Socialist activity. Trevor writes bio’s on public figures.
He documents and reports associations and support networks of public figures. Here is the Tim Kaine Wiki bio.

Tim Kaine - KeyWiki

Tim Kaine promises bill to legalize illegal immigrants in ‘first 100 days’

Tim Kaine promises bill to legalize illegal immigrants in ‘first 100 days’ - Washington Times

PHILADELPHIA – Alan Dershowitz, a staunch Democrat and emeritus law professor at Harvard University, stated in an interview on Sunday that the decision by Hillary Clinton’s vice president pick, Virginia Senator Tim Kaine, to boycott Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s speech to Congress was a “mark against” the candidate.

EXCLUSIVE

(one more)

Bishop Tobin: Tim Kaine’s Abortion, Gay Views ‘Clearly Contrary’ to Catholic Teaching and Pope Francis

Sad that Dershowitz is still an A-Hole!

Still, Dershowitz maintained that the Clinton-Kaine ticket was “far better for America and for Israel” then the Donald Trump and Mike Pence ticket.

EXCLUSIVE – Alan Dershowitz: Kaine’s Boycott of Netanyahu a ‘Mark Against’ Candidate
Alan Dershowitz
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by Aaron Klein25 Jul 2016296
PHILADELPHIA – Alan Dershowitz, a staunch Democrat and emeritus law professor at Harvard University, stated in an interview on Sunday that the decision by Hillary Clinton’s vice president pick, Virginia Senator Tim Kaine, to boycott Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s speech to Congress was a “mark against” the candidate.

Still, Dershowitz maintained that the Clinton-Kaine ticket was “far better for America and for Israel” then the Donald Trump and Mike Pence ticket.
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Dershowitz also sounded off about the decision by Kaine and other prominent democrats to support the international nuclear deal with Iran. Kaine helped generate support for the Obama administration’s nuclear deal with Iran by whipping senators into opposing a vote that prevented the Senate from blocking the deal.

EXCLUSIVE


#7

No. Obama hates America, and Hillary is in it for the demogoguery. So is Trump. Altruism is not at all a litmus test for running for President.