More idiocy from the public school cesspool


#1

This kind of idiocy can only come from the mindset of public school advocates. Expect more idiocy to come.

Teacher: Student-to-Student Massages Will Cure Bullying - Kyle Olson - [page]


#2

Just when you thought the liberals could not surpass their prior stupidity…


#3

Mind boggling, isn’t it?? What’s more mind boggling is that there are parents who will buy into this idiocy.


#4

That’s funny. My kids won’t be participating if this silliness shows up here.


#5

Now here’s an interesting projection that might come out of this “don’t-hurt their-self-esteem/grade-inflation/life-is-fair/bullying-decline-via-message” crap movement that the libs are inflicting on children.

How do you think these kiddies are going to be able to function on Internet discussion groups in the future? I mean, to really participate in these things, especially .alt’s, unmoderated forums, and newsgroups, and even to some degree on moderated forums, generally you need a pretty thick skin and pansies expecting things to be “fair” don’t last too long in the fast and loose, anonymous environment of the Internet. Of course if the child is an undisciplined spoiled brat, he/she may fall in well with the obnoxious crowd.

Now as I recall, there have been attempts to regulate the Internet. And regarding child porn and child safety, those efforts might be laudable. But trying to regulate obnoxious behavior on the Internet is like trying to herd cats, plus certain organizations have traditionally resisted any attempts by the government to regulate said Internet.

Now enter BHO and his agenda, and especially the NEA. I can easily see a scenario where he, being the computer savvy guy that he is (sarcasm), will try to make virtual “message therapy” out of the Internet. Just exactly what form that will take, I don’t know . . . but I’m not so sure it’s beyond his, and the NEA’s, reach. Nor am I sure he’s not going to try to do something . . . absolutely absurd.

No doubt Conspiracy Theories abound on this one, with the NSA, FBI, and Cyber-crime units at the center . . . especially with all these agencies under his control. Whether or not it will take the form of some 21st Century Orwellian drama, I have no idea, nor am I promoting Conspiracy Theories on the topic.

Nevertheless, I can certainly see a try. I doubt if it would be successful, and will probably, if it DOES happen, go the way of previous government efforts toward regulating the Internet . . . right into the toilet, I would hope at least. (Though government intrusion on the Internet HAS made a few inroads.)

The best and most appropriate regulators of the Internet for children are . . . PARENTS, and not the government, the NEA, or some fashionable lunatic movement from Europe. If a child needs to be protected from the Internet, it’s the duty of the . . . PARENTS!! But with Mommy out selling real estate, Daddy in a cocktail lounge trying to pick up prostitutes, and the whole dysfunctional family on BHO’s food stamps, I can see how BHO can make his usual twisted argument for government intrusion.

For children I can see this trend going one of two ways. Either they will turn out to be over-sensitive pansies unable to function in the real world, or they will turn out to be undisciplined spoiled brats . . . and plenty have turned out that way already. We might have yet another thing to “thank” BHO for if this continues.


#6

Fortunately, much of this has not infiltrated my son’s school. Grades are not inflated. if anything, the grase scales are tougher than when I was in school. We typically had the A=90+, B=80, etc. The scales used now is A=93+, B=85+, etc. They make them work for these grades and will hold students back. They will try to get them help to improve before they are held back but, they will hold them back.

They started an anti-bullying campaign that seems to have has some reasonable success. It started in grade school and seems to be working up through the grades. It was first teaching kids that it was wrong and that they need not suffer it without drawing attention to it. Second, when it does occur, they actually punish the bully.


#7

[quote=“Conservative_Libertarian, post:6, topic:37291”]
Fortunately, much of this has not infiltrated my son’s school.
[/quote]Private school, I assume? Associated with any particular religious denomination?

[quote=“Conservative_Libertarian, post:6, topic:37291”]
They started an anti-bullying campaign that seems to have has some reasonable success.
[/quote]I might disagree with you on the anti-bullying thing.

Through grade four (this was in the 1950’s), I attended Notre Dame Academy in Villanova, PA. French Nuns and such. Well . . . I got my butt kicked by a bully on the playground a few times when I was in first grade. Cried a lot and came home with my uniform (we had to wear blue blazers, a white shirt, and a bow tie) all messed up.

Finally, my father said, “Just punch them solidly in the nose one time and I doubt if they’ll bother you any more”, and he demonstrated by punching ME in the nose (not hard, but enough to bring tears to my eyes and disable me for a minute or so.) Well, when I realized what that simple maneuver would do (with his “demonstration”), I thought, “Hey, that oughta’ work”. Next time a bully came at me, I took a deep breath, and socked him once square in the nose. He teared up, and never bothered me again.

My point is NOT to approve a violent solution (though the simple sock in the nose was hardly “violence”), but rather sometimes standing up to a bully is as good as any anti-bullying campaign, and that sock only took about a second or so.

Of course, with “monitors” all over the place these days, a sock might not be possible. Back in the 50’s, they just basically turned us loose and that was it.


#8

My son is in public school. We are a very Conservative area.

The anti-bullying policies seem to have worked, thus far. However, the state does push a zero tolerance policy which could get my son into trouble even if he doesn’t fight back. However, I have heard from one parent that when their child was attacked by a trouble maker, their son was not punished.

As a child, I dealt with bullies in the same manner as you. In high school, I defended special ed students being bullied by bone-headed jocks.

I have told my son that if he is attacked, he must defend himself to avoid injury and to put a bully in his place. I told him not to worry about getting into trouble over it because I would be there to back him up with the school. The school system realizes that most of the local parents have this attitude regardless of the state pushed zero tolerance policy. Most of us will not hesitate to take our children out of the public school if the school takes a stupid position. Indiana is very homeschool friendly and there are several private school alternatives.

You must realize that we live in a very Conservative rural/small town area. The children are generally more polite and less violent because they know that their parents will jerk a knot in their tails if they misbehave. If they cause problems, they can’t get away with it for very long.


#9

ObamaNot: Just one little correction: The article is not about message to prevent bullying, it is about massages given to students to prevent bullying. You know, rubbing, touching, oils, incense, soft music…that kind of massage.


#10

To which I will re-iterate:, “Just when you thought the liberals could not surpass their prior stupidity…”


#11

I shudder to think what they will come up with next… Do you remember that moronic woman (I think it was the Klinton’s) surgeon general (can’t remember her name now) who openly advocated that school children be taught how to masturbate? I thought that was the height of idiocy…


#12

Jocelyn Elders


#13

[quote=“Susanna, post:12, topic:37291”]
Jocelyn Elders
[/quote]Another stain on humanity. If I recall properly her son was doing drugs.


#14

[quote=“ClassicalTeacher, post:9, topic:37291”]
ObamaNot: Just one little correction: The article is not about message to prevent bullying, it is about massages given to students to prevent bullying.
[/quote]Yes, I spelled it incorrectly, but I DID read the article and knew what it meant. Embarrassing . . . Sister Doris is rolling over in her grave.


#15

[quote=“Conservative_Libertarian, post:8, topic:37291”]
We are a very Conservative area.
[/quote]Then you are indeed fortunate.

[quote=“Conservative_Libertarian, post:8, topic:37291”]
I have told my son that if he is attacked . . .
[/quote]BTW, I didn’t mean to imply you were an inadequate parent. If it sounded that way, I apologize. You and I were children in a very different time.

[quote=“Conservative_Libertarian, post:8, topic:37291”]
You must realize that we live in a very Conservative rural/small town area. The children are generally more polite and less violent because they know that their parents will jerk a knot in their tails if they misbehave. If they cause problems, they can’t get away with it for very long.
[/quote]Polite children are a rarity these days. Compliments to you again and also your community.


#16

[quote=“ClassicalTeacher, post:11, topic:37291”]
Do you remember that moronic woman . . . surgeon general . . . who openly advocated that school children be taught how to masturbate? I thought that was the height of idiocy…
[/quote]Yes, I do remember that moron. Perhaps she thought that since Bill was notorious for that sort of thing, she would garner favor with the president.

Speaking of Bill draining his male liquid in the Oval Office, it occurred to me then that the Dems had little respect for the symbol of the presidency itself since they were not outraged he tainted that position forever. I wonder if when GW took over, he had the oval office disinfected. Ewwwwww . . . !


#17

OMGosh!!! That’s her!!! What a moron!! And, yes, her son was a druggie. I wonder how he’s doing now…

ObamaNot: Sorry! I thought maybe you misread my post. And, I want you to know that the memory of that slob from Arkansas curdles my stomach every time I think about him. I’m sure GWB had the entire WH fumigated after the slob left office. What a pig! I think the only decent one out of the whole bunch was Chelsea and she had the good sense to get the heck out of Dodge!


#18

[quote=“ClassicalTeacher, post:17, topic:37291”]
that slob from Arkansas curdles my stomach
[/quote]While Ann Coulter may not be regarded highly by several here, and I don’t disagree that her focus is selling books, and perhaps is appropriately labeled a RINO, and may be the NYT best-seller list version of a shock jock, she nevertheless can always be counted on to deliver zingers on Bill Clinton.

In her book titled “Guilty”, published several years ago, there is one excerpt where she goes into some detail about the swooning women that consider him “sexy”. To which she replies, “If a beer belly, bloated cheeks, a big red nose, tiny close-set eyes, and a big head equals handsome, where the hell is Newt Gingrich’s modeling contract?”


#19

Awwww…I like Newtie!! And, I like Ann Coulter, too.


#20

That’s why I live here.

I didn’t take your post as criticism of myself.

I’m proud of my son that respect. All of the teachers, school bus drivers, and parents go out of their way to tell me how polite and well-behaved he is. Most of the other kids are well-behaved and polite as well.

We have a few troublesome kids around but, they are usually well-known and watched. If their parents are good ones, they don’t stay that way for very long.