Mother Teresa’s canonization thrills GTA followers


I can’t believe she hadn’t been canonized as yet. Sunday she gets the nod from Pope Francis.


First off I would say that the church moves very slowly on almost everything.
Secondly I saw an interesting story about Mother Teresa not long after she died. It basically said that she had changed over the years & wasn’t the same person later in life as when she started out. I don’t remember the details but it wasn’t a flattering story.


I have not read the story, but maybe she got tired of people who wanted sit on their arse and take free stuff from who worked for a living. If that was why she “wasn’t the same person later in life,” I can understand why.


I heard something, too, and it seemed it had to do with her religious outlook, nothing to do with what Sendgop mentioned in the next post. I could be wrong, though.


I recall reading the article and, IIRC, it implied that she’d become more interested in self-promotion than in her “cause.”


Although this seems to be his effort in taking a stab at religion, Christopher Hitchens made some claims such as, "*MT was not a friend of the poor. She was a friend of poverty. She said that suffering was a gift from God. She spent her life opposing the only known cure for poverty, which is the empowerment of women and the emancipation of them from a livestock version of compulsory reproduction. And she was a friend to the worst of the rich, taking misappropriated money from the atrocious Duvalier family in Haiti (whose rule she praised in return) and from Charles Keating of the Lincoln Savings and Loan. Where did that money, and all the other donations, go? The primitive hospice in Calcutta was as run down when she died as it always had been—she preferred California clinics when she got sick herself—and her order always refused to publish any audit.

Here are also some quotes of Teresa regarding religion.**
“We never try to convert those who receive [aid] to Christianity but in our work we bear witness to the love of God’s presence and if Catholics, Protestants, Buddhists, or agnostics become for this better men — simply better — we will be satisfied. It matters to the individual what church he belongs to. If that individual thinks and believes that this is the only way to God for her or him, this is the way God comes into their life — his life. If he does not know any other way and if he has no doubt so that he does not need to search then this is his way to salvation.” Mother Teresa

“I’ve always said we should help a Hindu become a better Hindu, a Muslim become a better Muslim, a Catholic become a better Catholic.”
Mother Teresa

*“I love all religions. … If people become better Hindus, better Muslims, better Buddhists by our acts of love, then there is something else growing there.” *Mother Teresa

*“All is God — Buddhists, Hindus, Christians, etc., all have access to the same God.” *Mother Teresa

The problem with “canonization” is it glorifies the person for their works. Yes, works should accompany faith, but works are a reflection of salvation. “Canonization” seems to glorify the person and focus on their works rather than focussing on God and giving Him the glory. In the aspect, works and deeds are like a filthy rag in the eyes of God. “Canonization” also labels the person a saint based on their works rather than a depraved sinner in need of the Savior.

Titus 3:4-7
*But when the goodness and loving kindness of God our Savior appeared, he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit, whom he poured out on us richly through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that being justified by his grace we might become heirs according to the hope of eternal life. *


Roman Catholics: Canonizing The Damned – Pulpit & Pen


I have more respect for Mother Teresa than the nutjob pope who embraces socialism.


This is probably why the Protestant sect I was part of, does not canonize modern individuals as saints.

Man is evil; he is craven; he uses politics to glorify himself and those he identifies with. We cannot know what was in this woman’s heart; and it doesn’t matter at this point. She gave herself to good works; and if she had a dark side or a calculating side…that’s humanity.

Leave it to the Almighty; and let the dead bury their own dead.


I don’t know if any protestant church “canonizes” people as saints. We believe, as the Bible says that all believers are saints. In fact, the Bible pretty much uses “believer” and “saint” interchangeably, as well as “unbeliever” and “sinner.” I’m agin’ the expression “I’m a ‘sinner’ saved by grace.” Should be “I was a sinner, but God in his mercy and grace saved me, and now I’m a saint.”


More like it glorifies their example of the strength and virtue people attain when they give themselves over to God. What they do would not be possible without that.

> Yes, works should accompany faith, but works are a reflection of salvation. “Canonization” seems to glorify the person and focus on their works rather than focussing on God and giving Him the glory.

I have to disagree, as the strength saints exhibit is not of their own making.

Further, canonization requires two miracles to be performed after the person in question has died. That too is only possible with God’s power behind it.

> In the aspect, works and deeds are like a filthy rag in the eyes of God.

Again, I have to disagree. The acts of Saints tend to be actions God was calling them to do. If they are truly good acts which fulfill his desire for us, God would look upon them favorably, as they are a manifestation of his own will. He would examine them little differently than how he observed the earth after its creation.


The very LAST thing I’d ever do is claim sainthood for myself, even though I firmly believe in God’s saving grace.


Don’t know much about MT, but I do know the Pope like Jeep Wranglers and that makes him OK by me.


Well, God calls you one of his saints!


I sincerely doubt that, Susanna. Unlike my friends and even family, God KNOWS what I’ve done and thought.


Dave would have to be dead.

Saints are people in heaven. Not destined, not “called”, but actually in.

After-life communication with saints have occurred of course, but I think this would be the first case of them using a internet forum. BP


He knows what we’ve all done and thought, and He loves us anyway, and gave us a way to be saved. I don’t know who originated the quote, but it’s a good one:

Satan knows your name, but he calls you by your sin.
God knows your sin, but He calls you by your name. :smile:

Incorrect. Here are a number of references:

I gave up trying to C&P them all; there’s plenty more where those came from in the context of saints who are not at all in heaven.


Has He forgiven you? If He has, you are one of His saints.


Canonization is a decree announcing a person has qualified for sanctification. The decree publically declares the nominee is holy and in heaven with God. Where the veneration of the beatified is limited in scope, canonization binds the universal church to honor the saint. The qualifications include all those included in beatification plus another miracle occurring due to the intercession of the person, which is seen as God’s confirmation of the nominee’s sanctity. Additional honors include specific liturgies performed and churches dedicated in the saint’s name.

The core of beatification and canonization is in the belief that very good people of the church go straight to heaven, rule with Jesus, and intercede with God on behalf of the people on earth and in purgatory. James 5:16 is used to justify the practice: “Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective.” But nowhere does the Bible encourage seeking the attention or favor of those who have died, and praying to the dead is strictly forbidden.

Beatification, singling someone out for special status among the deceased believers, is unbiblical. All believers, whether dead or alive, are called “saints” in Scripture (1 Corinthians 1:2; Acts 9:13, 32; Ephesians 4:12). All believers are equally holy and righteous, not by our own acts, but by virtue of the righteousness of Christ imputed to us at the cross (2 Corinthians 5:21). All believers are equally precious in the sight of God and there is none who can boast of any special place before Him. Finally, developing a “cultus” (from which we get the word “cult”) around a deceased person to whom we offer prayers and petitions borders on necromancy, (consulting the dead) which is also strictly forbidden in Scripture (Deuteronomy 18:11).

Beatification and canonization are rites and traditions of the Roman Catholic Church and are based on a misunderstanding and/or misinterpretation of Scripture. Saints are the body of Christ, Christians, the church. All Christians are considered saints. All Christians are saints—and at the same time are called to be saints. In Roman Catholic practice, the saints are revered, prayed to, and in some instances, worshipped (although this is vehemently denied by Catholics). In the Bible, saints are called to revere, worship, and pray to God alone.