You ignore my arguments because (1) you are not capable of refuting them and because (2) you have decided by an act of your will that you are going to continue to believe what fits your personality, your whims, and your prejudices regardless of the evidences presented to your mind, a mind that is tightly closed to truth and facts.
You are a master at playing the Post Right In Front Of You ONLY Game as you ignore all the arguments in the back pages that you had no answers for, and then as you continue to play the Post Right In Front Of You ONLY Game you plead “confusion” and “I don’t understand” and “Your posts say nothing” so you will not have to actually face the arguments I present to you.
I have, in many threads, presented dozens of arguments to you, many from William Lane Craig’s great work on Christian Apologetics, showing why the Scientific Method, Logic, and Reason cannot be used to prove metaphysical moral values to be true. Bremen that means you cannot use the Scientific Method, Logic, and Reason to prove that anything is moral or immoral or right or wrong, you have to use FAITH in these areas. You don’t like that because then you’d have to admit that your moral code which is based upon your Life, Liberty, and Property is a FAITH position and thats getting to close to God and that makes you uncomfortable.
** You Foolishly Turned Down The Very Best Position You Can Ever Have: **
In a past thread I even gave you a more-than-reasonable position to hold and you even rejected that position. It was this: The Life, Liberty, and Property Moral Code is a secular faith position or a religious faith position (you get to pick if you want it to be a secular or religious faith ) ** with some supporting evidences **, none of which rise to the level of removing the necessity to keep on exercising faith.
You even rejected that position and went on to claim that Natural Law can demonstrate (prove) that the Life, Liberty, and Property Moral Code is based upon demonstrated facts proven true using ONLY the Scientific Method, Logic, and Reason, which is a FALSE claim.
My phrase “with some supporting evidences” was not good enough for you. Btw, I was telling you with that phrase that you indeed COULD go find some supporting evidences that WOULD lend some support to the claims made by those who hold to a “Secular Moral Code Based Upon Life, Liberty, and Property”,** and I added one true caveat that the evidence could never rise to the level of removing the necessity to keep on exercising faith. **
Christianity is like that, as are all metaphysical moral codes and values. Christianity is a religious faith with some supporting evidences, none of which can ever possibly rise to the level of removing the necessity to keep on exercising faith.
:deadhorse: My loooooong past history with you tells me your mind is closed. Perhaps as you age, we can discuss it furthur in say, the year 2045 :freaked:.
I understand, you want the government to protect your MONEY (laws against stealing) because you love MONEY enough to want your money protected by the government, but when it comes to the government having an interest in protecting the physical, emotional, and psychological well-being of young 18 year old females who have only been on the earth 216 months and clearly have not had time to develope sufficient common sense and wisdom to make good and wise decisions, you want to plead the “liberty” thing.
Picture in your mind a high school senior class and how immature they are, by any reasonable standards they’re nothing but children. For instance, Jane is a senior and is a silly 17 year old right now, in one week she turns 18 two days after she graduates and can legally start making hard core porn immediately. Once she get locked into that lifestyle and gets hooked on large amounts of quick easy money it will be difficult for her to leave.
If Jane at 18 enters the porn industry and makes it a career, making say an average of 2 sex films per week until she is say 45 years old, then chances are she is going to end up having sex with an astounding number of different men over her 27 year “career” in the sex industry.
Twenty-seven years Xs 52 weeks is 1404 weeks Xs 2 filmed sex events per week comes out to having sex with 2,808 different men, or different people if she also mixes in the lesbo stuff with her film making.
Then add in the “group orgies” and who knows how many different people she ends up having sex with.
You can work your own set of numbers, but however its figured, its going to end up being a fact that young immature 18 year Jane is going to be enticed with a lot of money (far more than she could ever make working at Belks or Macys etc) to sell her body for sex with at least thousands of different people over the course of say her 30 to 35 year career in the sex industry.
** Cactus Jack Wants The Government To Protect His MONEY With Laws. **
And Cactus Jack, your “moral code” when faced with the ugliness of what is happening to Jane can only respond with the “Jack, I will just say again, that the government has no business regulating the actions of consenting adults.”
Bremen and Cactus Jack’s position: I demand that the government pass laws to protect MY MONEY from theives, but I demand that the government does NOT pass laws to protect just turned 18 year old Jane from the money-enticements of the Porn Kings.
You don’t hold to a moral code high enough to even want the government to legally protect its teenage citizens, the 18 and 19 year olds, because your main interest is self-interest and you want the government protecting with laws your Life, your Liberty, and your Property.
** On Exciting Future Discoveries: **
Btw, that which you are so interested in protecting: your Life, Liberty, and Property, will very soon, historically speaking, be taken away from you by General Time and his top battle commander General Death who has never lost a battle. There are only 480 months in 40 years. Wonder what condition your Life, Liberty, and Property will be in when you add 40 years to your present age?
Isn’t it exciting? Just think: If you are now say age 40, in just a mere 780 months (you’d be 105 years old) its pretty sure that you will be finding out for certain if there is or is not an Eternal Hell and discovering if you will or will not become one of it’s citizens.
I’m glad life is good for you, /grin … enjoy it while you can, you know what they say abour General Time: “General Time is a true killer who reveals the answers to many mysteries.”
Yeah we’re all doing very good and since its my favorite time of year, I’m doing even better.