NSA revelations only 'the tip of the iceberg,' says Dem lawmaker


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The federal surveillance programs revealed in media reports are just “the tip of the iceberg,” a House Democrat said Wednesday.

Rep. Loretta Sanchez (D-Calif.) said lawmakers learned “significantly more” about the spy programs at the National Security Agency (NSA) during a briefing on Tuesday with counterterrorism officials.

“What we learned in there,” Sanchez said, “is significantly more than what is out in the media today.”

Lawmakers are barred from revealing the classified information they receive in intelligence briefings, and Sanchez was careful not to specify what members might have learned about the NSA’s work.

“I can’t speak to what we learned in there, and I don’t know if there are other leaks, if there’s more information somewhere, if somebody else is going to step up, but I will tell you that I believe it’s the tip of the iceberg,” she said.

Sanchez’s remarks on C-SPAN’s “Washington Journal” came a day after House lawmakers were briefed by national security officials on clandestine data collection programs.

The briefing was meant to convince lawmakers that the surveillance programs are legal and necessary in fighting counterterrorism — an argument President Obama and other administration officials have made.

Lawmakers demanded the briefings after revelations last week about the NSA’s collection of phone records and Internet data, and Sanchez said lawmakers were “astounded” by what they heard.

“I think it’s just broader than most people even realize, and I think that’s, in one way, what astounded most of us, too,” Sanchez said of the briefing.

You know, first some thoughts. Lots of members here are going to dismiss this as hyperbole because it is a democratic congress person saying this. Lets not forget just how much Obama has been pushing for this surveillance, and it is my hope people will finally put down the partisian labels and realize just how serious this is.

Second thought is that I remember watching a trailer for a game called watch dogs that talked about mass surveillance as a key point of the plot line. Many people considered this to be a bit far fetched and science fiction. Other than the physical aspects… it’s not so far fetched now. In fact, it may in fact already be very… VERY real.


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Scary, to say the least. 1984


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How interesting, Maylar. I clicked on the trailer, (interesting and scary in itself), and what pops up, but an add from a local store where I recently purchased something in person and with cash. hmm.

From the article you posted above that: (emphasis mine)

in fighting counterterrorism — an argument President Obama and other administration officials have made.

“Fighting counterterrorism?” I keep hearing it put that way, and don’t think that’s what they mean to say. Or, at least I hope not.
Hard not to think of it as a Freudian slip, though.