NYC schools give out morning-after pills to students — without telling parents


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NYC schools give out morning-after pills to students — without telling parents
By SUSAN EDELMAN and CYNTHIA R. FAGEN


Last Updated: 9:11 AM, September 23, 2012
Posted: 12:29 AM, September 23, 2012

The Department of Education is giving morning-after pills and other birth-control drugs to students at 13 high schools, The Post has learned.

School nurse offices stocked with the contraceptives can dispense “Plan B” emergency contraception and other oral or injectable birth control to girls without telling their parents — unless parents opt out after getting a school informational letter about the new program.

CATCH — Connecting Adolescents To Comprehensive Health — is part of a citywide attack against the epidemic of teen pregnancy, which spurs many girls — most of them poor — to drop out of school.

While Big Apple high schools have long supplied free condoms to sexually active teens, this is the first time city schools have dispensed hormonal birth control and Plan B, which can prevent pregnancy if taken up to 72 hours after unprotected sex.

Before commenting further, it should be noted that the, “unless parents opt out after getting a school informational letter about the new program,” is likely a mockery of what it should be. These “parental notifications” have taken on the form of a very non-specific form in which parents essentially given a school permission to do whatever the school deems necessary for whatever situation might arise. And this “notification” is part of a hurry-up-and-sign-everything packet sent home at the beginning of the school year.

So, aspirin is too potent and dangerous for schools to give to students, but giving some girls mega-doses of hormones while withholding knowledge of that from parents and families’ doctors is just fine? Really? It’s far from the only valid reason, but this is a very good reason for parents not to trust public schools! And to believe that public schools are up to their eyeballs in doing things far removed from education!


#2

Wow, tax dollars being used to support teen sex lives. The Left has no boundary it wont cross with other people’s money.


#3

:freaked: I just read this myself. It does not surprise me in the least. I guess I should have put my “public school rant” in this forum rather than the one I did. I’ll go get it!


#4

As I have said many times before, the public school system should be completely abolished. That includes all school boards, teacher unions and federations, departments of education in most colleges and universities, teacher certification boards, the NEA and all its constituents. Public schools receive between $8,000.00 and $10,000 per student each year. Where is this money going? Where are the results that show this money is being well-spent?? We have children who can’t read, write simple coherent sentences, spell without a spell-chek, write cursively (and sometimes can’t write manuscript!), and can’t solve simple arithmatical problems without a calculator! But, they know how to put on a condom, how to get an abortion or birth control (without parental knowledge or consent), how to save the earth, that homosexuality is normal, that God is dead, that religion is the “opium of the masses”, and how the government will do our thinking for us and solve all our problems. The obvious conclusion is that schools no longer educate: they INDOCTRINATE. When high school students are taught that mankind came from pond sludge, that the white man is to blame for every ill of society, and they are brainwashed with a revisionist interpretation of history, and when they can’t speak coherently in front of an audience, we have serious problems on our hand. This calls for drastic measures.

What employer would continue to allow his/her employees to fail as public schools have? What employer today would continue to throw billions of dollars into a miserable failure?? What employer would allow a teacher to continue to produce failed results year after year?? What employer does not hold his/her employees accountable for positive results?? Only the government would allow these things to continue decade after decade after decade. When are PARENTS going to realize that their children are the pawns in the government’s attempt to indoctrinate their children into marxist-commies? This is no joke! Now, we are seeing the real monster raise it’s ugly head: now schools have become the lunch nazis telling parents what their children should or should not be eating and going so far as to send a 3 year old home with a home-packed lunch determined “unacceptable”! We should all be outraged!

Your question is, “What is the alternative?” Well there are plenty. Here is one: A CLASSICAL EDUCATION.

The classical education model is very, very old. It was developed by Socrates, Aristotle and Plato. It is based on a three-part process of training called the trivium. These stages are: grammar (not because of the study of English grammar but because, like grammar is the foundation of the English language, the first 4 years of school are the foundation for the rest of the learning process), logic, and rhetoric. Grades 1-4 are the “grammar” stage. Usually, grade five begins the stage of logic because generally by then, children are ready to think more analytically. They are more eager to learn the reasons for how the world works. " The final phase of a classical education, the ‘Rhetoric Stage,’ builds on the first two. At this point, the high school student learns to write and speak with force and originality." (Susan Wise Bauer) A classical education is also interrelated. That is, subject matter is not taught or learned in isolation. For example, history and literature are normally taught together–which makes sense because much of literature is history-based. In addition, in a classical education, a sort of “forum” exists in the classroom. That is, the teacher starts out with a concept and then builds upon this concept by asking children “Why?”. For example, if I were teaching a class on place value to 3rd or 4th graders, I could start out by writing a number on the board and asking them what this number represents. For example, if I used the number 10, most children would say that the number represents 10 things or they might hold up 10 fingers. My next question would be, “Why?” And so on. It seems simple enough, but it is not. It takes a lot of preparation and dedication on the part of the teacher. Teachers also have to have some kind of classical training. Since this is not taught in any colleges or universities anymore, a teacher would need to go to special conferences, etc. to get this training. There are lots of resources out there now. You see, it isn’t enough for children to know basic facts although mastery of basic facts are the foundation in classical learning. Children must learn to incorporate those facts into the broader spectrum of all knowledge and to be able to use that knowledge to understand deeper, more philosophical ideals. There are four cycles that repeat during the 12 years of education: ancient times, medieval, Renaissance & Middle Ages, and modern times. Students study the ancient writers such as Plato, Herodutus, Virgil and others. Most classical education includes the study of a foreign language, particularly Latin and Greek. And this usually starts in the early grades once children have a firm grasp on the English language. Young children are taught to recognize root (base) words and if they are of Greek or Latin origin. Marva Collins of Chicago left the Chicago Public Schools because she was/is a classically trained teacher and wanted her inner city school children to reap the benefits of such. The Chicago Public School Board did not agree. They told her that she expected too much from these kids–saying these children were “uneducatable”. Marva left and started her own classical school in the basement of her home with only 6 children–three of which were her own. She now has two private schools in Chicago’s inner city that have more than a two year waiting list. All of her students are classically taught and 99% of her students graduate and go on to prestigious universities. Her schools do not take a cent from the state or federal government. Her schools run on tuition (which isn’t much), benefactors, and fundraising. She is one of my heroes.

A DEGREE A TEACHER DOES NOT MAKE.

In replacement of the marxist-socialist departments of education in colleges and universities, there should be implemented a classical teacher training program. These programs would be run by classically trained teachers who have had at least 7 years of experience in a classical classroom. Believe me, there are plenty of them and none of them belong to any teacher union or federation. There are quite a number of classical schools around the country. They are extremely successful and have the numbers to prove it.

Well…now I feel much better!


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You could also view this as the school having a pre-existing underage sex problem and they are issuing Plan B as a temporary measure to reduce teen pregnancy. Obviously better sex education would be better in reducing underage sex, but in the meantime you also don’t want pregnant teenagers. Same logic with handing out condoms. If they’re having sex anyway, its better to be able to easily have access to safe sex. Simultaneously, you need to teach about the dangers of unsafe sex and teen pregnancy, and also try to get across sex should wait until maturity.


#6

Promoting teen sex and killing unborn babies in one fell swoop. It’s a liberal paradise.


#7

Those who oppose sex education and contraception for sexually active teenagers are complicit in the abortions that occur as a result.


#8

Its one thing for schools to teach about SexEd but to hand out pills? I think that is a bit much.


#9

If it stops unplanned pregnancies then handing out some pills is better than the alternative. Probably far more cost effective in the end too.


#10

Indeed. Sexually active teenagers should be punished with children of their own. Like in the good ole days.


#11

I believe they should. My mother had me when she was 15. The problem with most kids these days is they have no sense of personal responsibility. It is not the role of the government to babywalk kids, that is the parents job.


#12

Another generation of unwanted children is another generation of poverty, juvenile delinquency, crime, drug abuse, welfare dependency and hopelessness.

How about teaching them how to not get pregnant in the first place and giving them the means to avoid an unwanted pregnancy.


#13

Copied from Seravee’s quote:

[QUOTE=CWolf]Indeed. Sexually active teenagers should be punished with children of their own. Like in the good ole days.[/QUOTE]
In the “good ole days,” parents instilled a sense of discipline in their kids before sexual maturity that made it much easier to adhere to the wait-until-you’re-married rule.


#14

Copied from Seravee’s quote:

[QUOTE=Cactus Jack]Those who oppose sex education and contraception for sexually active teenagers are complicit in the abortions that occur as a result.[/QUOTE]
That’s an unmitigated pile of dog droppings.


#15

If your kid had unprotected, and say you didn’t oppose Plan B, would you consider giving them Plan B promoting their lifestyle? I wouldn’t, not on its own. It’s a safety measure designed to prevent pregnancy, not an endorsement of their lifestyles, and presumably the school will work towards better sex education that teaches responsibility.


#16

I agree that quality, comprehensive sex education and access to contraceptives is the best defence against unplanned teenage pregnancies and abortions.

Sticking one’s head in the sand and mindlessly repeating the unrealistic mantra of “abstinence”, however, is not a good defence.


#17

They should teach math/science/English, etc. and leave the “big talk” to the parents.
They should teach Sex Ed as a health course, nothing more. The Public School System cannot even teach a proper Phys Ed class, and have a majority pass rate. We trail many countries on Education, and it is because:

  1. The unions block the replacement of bad teachers.
  2. They worry more about indoctrinating our kids, than educating them.
  3. The have stripped our kids of incentive, by teaching them that excellence is not to be aspired to, lest you should hurt a below average kids feelings.

Teach the 3 Rs, help prepare their educational/vocational future, quit with the “Barack Hussein Obama, uh, uh, uh.” and “can” the teachers who do not excel.


#18

If you can stop something from happening, and you choose not to, you are responsible for it.


#19

Many things can serve as a deterrent. No one of them is unfailing (and yes, sometimes the lot of deterrents fail, too). But by providing Plan-B without parental knowledge and consent, you’ve just told the teen that they have a pregnancy parachute that they wouldn’t otherwise have had. This issue isn’t just about after the fact.


#20

[quote=“Seravee, post:11, topic:36286”]
I believe they should. My mother had me when she was 15. The problem with most kids these days is they have no sense of personal responsibility. It is not the role of the government to babywalk kids, that is the parents job.
[/quote]When did you become an old man :tongue:

You do realize these free loading kids are getting free food, free medical care, free electricity and free education. I suppose you’re not suggesting they need to work a job in exchange for these, but I suppose I should ask first. Assuming your answer is that yes, we should provide them with these things, why not also help keep them from having unwanted children that will cause both them and the children undue hardships?

I would say this IS taking responsibility. Not dealing with it and just letting the chips fall where they may is how you avoid it. Using contraception is more responsible than not using it.