Our Fifth Column’s government shut down over DACA



For those who are unfamiliar with the phrase '‘Fifth Column’', it was often used during the 1940s and 50s when I grew up, and referenced those in our country who were sympathetic to causes which threatened our country’s common defense and general welfare.

And then there was '‘Yellow Journalism’', another phrase. This phrase was used to identify media personalities and journalists who would stretch truth and facts, and even fabricate stories, [fake news] to accomplish nefarious ends.

Both of these forces are now actively at work in America!

Today, it appears a Fifth Column in our country has been successful in a cause ___ shutting down our federal government ___ which now threatens our nation’s common defense and general welfare. And what is their reasoning for doing this? Their justification is a desire to immediately allow the children of illegal entrants to remain in our country, and also open the doors and allow the relatives of these children to flood into our country, regardless if they would be a public burden upon the taxpaying citizens of the United States.

Is this not what Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi are demanding, or blackmailing members of Congress for in return to allow our federal government to be funded so it may attend to our nation’s common defense and general welfare?

Indeed, a Fifth Column movement has been successful in shutting down our federal government for a cause which would flood our country with the poverty stricken, poorly educated, low and unskilled populations of other countries which is tantamount to importing a massive, financially dependent, voting block into America which our Fifth Column needs to insure an overwhelming dominance in Congress by socialists, communists and progressives who have no problem enslaving our nation’s taxpaying productive citizens to pay for the economic needs of its voting base.

President Trump needs to hold firm and resist this domestic attack on America by a Fifth Column movement, whose aim is to import an overwhelming voting block dependent upon free government cheese.


American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax-slaves to finance a maternity ward for the poverty stricken populations of other countries who invade America’s borders to give birth.


I never thought I would live to see the day when active socialists and communists like Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi would be elected to hold an office of public trust.


The unavoidable truth is, the Chuck Schumer/Nancy Pelosi social democrats’ plan for ‘‘free’’ college tuition will be paid for by taxing the paychecks of millions of college graduates who worked for and paid their own way through college and are now trying to finance their own economic needs.


Senator Schumer’s wish list to end the government shutdown

It seems quite clear that Chucky Boy Schumer is demanding the following laundry list to end his filibuster which has caused our federal government to close down.

Schumer wants permanent residency for the DACA children, most of whom are over 25 years old.

Schumer wants citizenship granted, within a few years, to the DACA children.

Schumer wants legal entry and residency granted the relatives of DACA children

Schumer wants citizenship granted to the relatives of DACA children within a few years.

If these demands are granted Schumer will then end his filibuster and also give funding for the “wall”.

Of course Schumer will give funding for the wall because the wall will no longer be an obstacle to import the estimated 20 million more democrat voters which his above demands will bring.

And it seems very likely that Senator Lindsey Graham negotiated this list of demands with Chucky Boy Schumer.


American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax-slaves to finance a maternity ward for the poverty stricken populations of other countries who invade America’s borders to give birth.


Whom have lived here basically all of their lives, are acculturated as Americans, many don’t even know Spanish, and thus, this is the only place where they could function.

You’re antagonizing something that will serve to upend you politically. Not because they’ll be Democrat voters, but because the image of you going after these people is going to weaken anything you want to say about illegal immigration more broadly.

These “immigrants” speak English, they know & live in our culture, and are far better able to generate sympathy.

It gets especially hard to take when you find out that some of these people are American veterans.




What we know now is that 900 of these so-called “Dreamers” are now serving, or HAVE served honorably in the U.S. Military, so it’s not like a million of 'em rushed to sign up, AS. I’d be FOR granting citizenship to that 900 immediately–assuming they meet the rest of the qualifications for citizenship.


John, stop.


It means you’re condemning people, whom are no threat to us. People who get lost in the instrumentality of Government.



When you stop switching the subject of threads and going down rabbit holes in order to disrupt a productive discussion concerning the topic of a thread.


Common sense immigration rules make Democrat leaders’ heads explode. Why?

President Trump has identified four requirements which must be agreed upon with any DACA legislation. They are:

An end to chain migration;

a merit based immigration system;

a secured border with a physical wall were necessary;

and an end to the suicidal immigration lottery system.

Why do these common sense requirements make our open border Fifth Column’s heads expload and caused them to shut down our federal government?


Without a Fifth Column Media, Yellow Journalism and a corrupted FBI, Loretta Lynch, Hillary Clinton and Barack Hussein Obama, would be making license tags in a federal penitentiary


Yes, and Lucy won’t pull the football away this time, either…

Schumer is a lying crook who should neither be trusted nor allowed to continue in office. But he’s got the votes of NYC, so he’ll be around until death do they part. And given the way their governor is going on tax and spend, it’s hard to know if Schumer will die of natural causes first, or New York from bankruptcy (unless Schumer manages to get the rest of the country to carry NY the way we’re doing with other socialist pestholes in the U.S.)…


You’ve obviously not been paying much attention to this discussion AS. Where did I “condemn” anyone? I merely said that those 900 “dreamers” who’ve served honorably in the military can be made exceptions of and given a path to citizenship. How is that condemning anyone? The remaining 3 million or so here illegally can go back where they came from and apply for re-admission like everyone else.


Yet, I’ve been on topic on this thread the entire time.

So you’ve agreed to stop.


Government bureaucracy.

People under DACA have no way to lead functional lives in other countries they have not lived in.

You want them to end their lives here, the only lives they’ve ever known, and go “back to” a country most have not been to since childhood.

You are condemning them to a fate where where they lose everything they had here, they make appeals to enter that get ignored, while being forced to relearn how to live in a society they did not grow up in.

That is hell. And if they don’t know Spanish, a hell baked in isolation.


Then you’d think that at least ONE of these 30-somethings would have had the good sense to TRY and become legal in the past 15 or so years, instead of waiting until they are no longer “deemed” legal by the government and now whine and cry about having to do what every other immigrant must do…all the while waving the Mexican flag while burning OURS in “protest.”


Dave? Were still working through permanent residency applications made by Filipinos in the early 1990s.

You seem to underestimate how much our system drags its feet.


I actually don’t CARE how slow the process is. It SHOULD be slow. Are you trying to convince us that these WWII Filipino veterans waited 45 YEARS to try and get into the U.S. and then only after their own government started contemplating kicking the U.S. Military out of their country?


Okay, so you’re condemning the people under DACA to a hellish existence, where they are forced to go live in a culture they were not raised in, and where they lose everything they’ve built here.

All for something that isn’t their fault.

In addition, you punish their families, wreck their lives… for something that is also not their fault.

Sins of the father”. This is basically what you’re punishing DACA people for. Other people are going to notice this, and you’ll create a backlash.

Just think about it Dave, how many people in this country could 3 Million individuals know? How many of those people will sympathize instantly with their plight, the moment you do this?


Obviously, John, these conditions violate “Natural Law” which is a slippery amorphous undefined concept which is beyond the comprehension of most of us racist, xenophobic knuckle draggers.



I’ve never made this claim of you old dog, and now you’ve twice argued with me in bad faith.

I never once claimed you were racist or dumb; I have an I.Q. of 112, chances are at least half the people on this forum can beat that. Intelligence isn’t my advantage.

And Natural Law is defined, John Locke; Life, Liberty, Property. To get more granular then that, we look at Common Law. Common law is the execution of Natural law; making it into a practical, livable rule set.

We also look at Negative Rights, because that’s all Natural law is in the end, a list of Negative rights; conferring duties of noninterference.