Wrong, go back in the thread, Dave was making anti-immigration arguments relating to them taking jobs.
If he’s going to contradict himself, it’s free game for me to seize on it. It’s not my fault he doesn’t understand economics well enough to know not to do this.
> 3. No, the problem right now is that we have illegal immigration because the border isn’t being enforced worth crap.
History disagrees: Illegal immigration fluctuates in sync with Economic performance. The better our economy does, the more who come. The less it performs, the less who come, leaning towards decline.
An Economic phenomenon; that’s what they are, and they were coming here long before there was any welfare for them to take.
You also can’t ignore 70% of farm workers being illegal. That’s a clear labor demand, a systemic dependency of an industry, that the legal immigration system failed to meet.
A failure of policy to navigate the pressures put upon it, and equally a failure to at all improve on the policy that came before it.
> 4. I don’t have a problem with water, but I don’t want to be drowned in it.
Name to me just one other everyday item the Government does better to regulate the supply of than the market. Name just one other.
The labor market is a market, it needs to reach equilibrium just as any other market does. I don’t buy these assumptions of central planning that are predicated on knowledge I know the Gov’t bureaucrats don’t have, anymore than they would know what the “right” supply of crops or medicine to import from other countries is.
Or even how many people should be moving between the States.
Controlling for criminal background or health, does not mean you need to also manipulate the labor market. You can do the former without messing with the latter.
> 6. As YOU quoted me, I DID say “or whatnot.”
No, you don’t get to say this, not unless you’re going to make the same accusation of Eisenhower.
His model is what I proposed, so his model is what you have to argue against with me. Not a straw man, but a specific policy prescription, with a clear, historical track record.