Read the tea leaves


#1

Lindsey Graham is going to do fund-raising for Cruz. Romney is going to vote for Cruz in Utah. Not endorsements, didn’t hear either of them state how Senator Cruz would make a great president. Just using him. If they manage to bust the convention wide open they have plenty of room to kick Cruz to the curb. The only path to the nomination for Cruz is to get to 1237 before the convention. As it stands now it is still remotely in the realm of possibility. Barring a minor miracle, in a few weeks that path to the nomination will become a mathematical impossibility. The question is what will Cruz do then? If he remains in the race at that point he will no longer be a viable candidate and will become an ally and tool of the Establishment. Cruz is not stupid, he is probably the most intelligent candidate in decades, he will be aware of the consequences of his decision.


#2

Reagan relied on establishment support to win his elections; he even chose one of their own as his VP.

It’s alright if the establishment wants to pitch in, so long as they know who it is that’s calling the shots. And just as with Reagan, Cruz would.


#3

[quote=“old_dog, post:1, topic:48475”]
Lindsey Graham is going to do fund-raising for Cruz. Romney is going to vote for Cruz in Utah. Not endorsements, didn’t hear either of them state how Senator Cruz would make a great president. Just using him. If they manage to bust the convention wide open they have plenty of room to kick Cruz to the curb. The only path to the nomination for Cruz is to get to 1237 before the convention. As it stands now it is still remotely in the realm of possibility. Barring a minor miracle, in a few weeks that path to the nomination will become a mathematical impossibility. The question is what will Cruz do then? If he remains in the race at that point he will no longer be a viable candidate and will become an ally and tool of the Establishment. Cruz is not stupid, he is probably the most intelligent candidate in decades, he will be aware of the consequences of his decision.
[/quote]Given the evils of Trumpism, Cruz may have to temporarily ally with the “establishment.”


#4

Evil? Examples please. Some people have had trouble understanding your frequent sarcasm. It appears that you have trouble understanding Trump’s frequent hyperbole.


#5

[quote=“old_dog, post:4, topic:48475”]
Evil? Examples please. Some people have had trouble understanding your frequent sarcasm. It appears that you have trouble understanding Trump’s frequent hyperbole.
[/quote]Urging supporters to take violent action?


#6

Emotional hyperbole (which he no longer uses) prompted by criminal intruders.


#7

If I were running for office and some moron rushed the podium during one of my speeches, I’d cold-cock him in a heartbeat. What’s “wrong” with that? If someone disrupts an event I was holding for my supporters, I’d tell them to beat the crap out of the guy and escort him out! Maybe if more people would do this, it’d be harder for Geo. Soros to recruit these idiots in the first place.


#8

[quote=“old_dog, post:6, topic:48475”]
Emotional hyperbole (which he no longer uses) prompted by criminal intruders.
[/quote]Would even a high school teacher or for that matter a high school class president ever urge violence as a solution to disagreement? And I’m talking about threats of riots in the streets if Trump isn’t the nominee, not from the results of disrupting rallies.


#9

[quote=“Pappadave, post:7, topic:48475”]
If I were running for office and some moron rushed the podium during one of my speeches, I’d cold-cock him in a heartbeat. What’s “wrong” with that? If someone disrupts an event I was holding for my supporters, I’d tell them to beat the crap out of the guy and escort him out! Maybe if more people would do this, it’d be harder for Geo. Soros to recruit these idiots in the first place.
[/quote]I perhaps agree about misconduct at rallies. I have a lot more problems with threatening lawful process if the convention goes sideways for Trump.


#10

What counts as “no longer”, two weeks ago?


#11

Sorry, JBG, but Trump didn’t THREATEN it. He merely stated it was a likely outcome if the RNC tries to steal the nomination by their shenanigans…one of the few times he’s told the unvarnished truth.


#12

[quote=“Pappadave, post:11, topic:48475”]
Sorry, JBG, but Trump didn’t THREATEN it. He merely stated it was a likely outcome if the RNC tries to steal the nomination by their shenanigans…one of the few times he’s told the unvarnished truth.
[/quote]It’s a threat dressed up as a prediction.


#13

It was clearly a prediction and a figurative one at that. Everyone knows that the left, present company excluded, are the only ones to intentionally incite and carry out violent riots.


#14

It also has historical precedence, if you look at the brokered Dem convention of 68


#15

It is also no accident that almost ALL politically-motivated assassinations are committed by leftists–James Earl Ray, Sirhan Sirhan, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Hinkley, the bomb-thrower who killed Archduke Ferdinand, the Turk who shot Pope John Paul II etc. etc. etc. Additionally, most of the mass-murderers in the U.S. have been either Registered Democrats–or the children of registered Democrats.


#16

He can change his positons from one debate or interview to the next. He and his supporters will call you a liar if you point that out.


#17

While you guys argue over Cruz and Trump, let me point something out:

The people of the United States have twice elected to be led by a punk.

Utilizing Aristotelian “straight-line” logic, that makes us punks.

November can’t get here fast enough; neither can Jan 20, 2017.

I’ve had enough of our elected punk celebrating by performing the “wave” during a ball game in Cuba attended alongside Castro on the heels of the Brussels debacle and I’m tired of this country getting punked by the images our punk sends to the rest of the world.

It’s embarrassing. But, it’s more than that - Obama’s punkish behavior and his never-ending verbal masturbation in response to their atrocities, is without doubt the best recruiting tool radical Islam has!!


#18

I’ll argue once again that I doubt he was legitimately elected, especially the second time.