Retired four-star Army general: Trump ‘serious threat to US national security’


#1

It’s rather remarkable. Is there a precedent for remarks like these about a president from non-partisan career officials?

Retired Gen. Barry McCaffrey tweeted Friday that he reached the conclusion about Trump because the president “is refusing to protect vital US interests from active Russian attacks.”


#2

This is a former head of the CIA talking about a sitting president:

When the full extent of your venality, moral turpitude, and political corruption becomes known, you will take your rightful place as a disgraced demagogue in the dustbin of history. You may scapegoat Andy McCabe, but you will not destroy America...America will triumph over you. https://t.co/uKppoDbduj

— John O. Brennan (@JohnBrennan) March 17, 2018

Again, what’s the precedent?


#3

… Do you know how many flag officers spoke out on Obama? Or how about the one he fired for talking about him?

I know of at least two who tried the same thing on Bush, because… 9/11.

I don’t care much for Trump, but this just doesn’t hold up, man.


#4

I’m asking in good faith for similar examples. This is an ex-CIA chief essentially calling the POTUS an enemy of the United States. That’s insanely strong stuff in that quote. I’m curious of the exact examples that you find similar in precedent. It’s one thing to “call out” a president…quite another for someone that high level to accuse a president of “venality” and “moral turpitude,” and accuse them of trying to destroy America.


#5

I guess you’re talking about when McChrystal referred to Obama as “disappointing” and “disengaged”? That’s what you find similar in precedent to a four star general and ex-CIA chief accusing Trump of being a morally depraved threat to national security? Please get serious.


#6

As contrasted to Barack Hussein Obama who did…ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Brennan is a proven liar and is up to his neck in the attempted coup to overturn our last election.


#7

Is Trump a “proven liar”?


#8

Yes, of course. But most of Trump’s “lies” are of the same earth shaking importance as Obama’s claim to have visited “all 57 states”. Can’t recall when he has lied to Congress. Can’t recall when he has lied under oath. Can’t recall when he has lied about national security. Brennan, on the other hand, is a corrupt political hack.


#9

YOU are not allowed to say things with which I agree so wholeheartedly. You take that back, RIGHT NOW!


#10

He’s a politician. Duh. Lies are their stock in trade. I will judge him based on the results he produces.


#11

Everyone is a liar, it’s true.

The point of this thread, and the question I am asking, is if there is precedent for high level officials referring to the POTUS as a threat to national security on account of their moral depravity.


#12

You are absolutely correct, I have never before seen so many morally depraved high level officials willing to promote lies about the POTUS for political expediency.


#13

Two words man, Red Line.


#14

Eh…yeah, no.


#15

If war is ‘the continuation of policy,’ I’d like to know what that policy is—so I can avoid screwing it up, or wasting lives for no purpose

You’re just really in the dark here man.


#16

Brennan was an Obama kinda’ guy . . . I wouldn’t expect an Obama person, no matter what his stature, to embrace Trump just as much as I wouldn’t expect a Trump supporter to embrace Obama.

Would you expect otherwise? Does Brennan’s opinion surprise you?


#17

I’m baffled that you consider that relatively tame criticism as equivalent to four star generals accusing the POTUS of being a threat to national security and a puppet of hostile regimes, and an ex-CIA chief calling the POTUS morally depraved and accusing him of wishing to destroy America.

We can have an honest and serious discussion, if you like.


#18

Brennan’s motivation is transparent. When he is indicted he will claim that Trump is taking revenge on him. The leftist media will be an echo chamber.


#19

It wouldn’t hurt to take down a few CIA chiefs with indictments. I’m sure it’s only a matter of time before Trump is busted, also, and probably his sons, too. They seem untouchable now (the moral bar is set so low for Trump, that he can have multiple affairs with porn stars, lie about it, and almost no one cares), but lies and crimes almost always catch up to a person. This was the great flaw in Machiavelli’s theory about appearance of virtue vs possession of actual virtue: even his own great example of a prince, Cesare Borgia, was murdered for his crimes. (As an aside, there are of course the theories that Machiavelli was aware of this problem with his theory, and that he advanced the idea of pursuing mere appearance of virtue in an ironic sense).


#20

Countless FELONIES and the lies that go with them haven’t caught up to Bill and Hillary yet.