Can I ask a question about Franken…
Before I do, let me make it clear that what he did was wrong and I’m not trying to defend it, but I am curious…
This is being defined as “groped”
“feel or fondle (someone) for sexual pleasure, especially against their will.”
Is this “groping” someone? I mean yes, this was against her will, but that alone does not constitute groping.
Besides the fact that, while being extremely close to her breasts, I’m not sure what he’s doing qualifies as groping. Am I wrong? Can anyone really get “sexual pleasure” through a flack jacket in a room of other people?
I think it’s pretty obvious he didn’t want her to wake and the fact that she didn’t tell’s me that he never touched her.
I don’t think he “groped” her, but here is where the liberal left is so F’ing cowardly.
So I’m questioning it, though I don’t condone it. I think he did it as a joke, but I think it was a joke in poor taste and I think some women might be humiliated by it.
Now taken with the other accusation of a forced kiss this act appears worse.
But I have a question about that too.
She claims he “forced his tongue into her mouth”, but if we’re really parsing things here, like so many seem willing to do for Mr. Moore. Why would she open her mouth? I’ve kissed a lot of girls in my days and I’m trying to imagine a girl using her tongue to force open my mouth (or me using mine to open the mouth a girl who didn’t want me too). Now I know guys are stronger than women, but is the tongue really dexterous enough and strong enough to open the jaw of a woman who doesn’t want a tongue in her mouth? In her interview on CNN, she explicitly states it wasn’t planned to be a passionate kiss (using their tounges), I just want to know why, if she was soooo disgusted by him, why she would open her mouth?
Maybe she was shocked and her mouth just happened to be open? I suppose that’s a remote possibility, but if a woman I detest sticks her tongue in my mouth, she’s going to walk away with a very, very sore tongue. For me, my reaction to a woman I didn’t like putting her hand on the back of my head and coming at me like she was going to kiss me, would NOT be to open my mouth.
She was obviously in control as she states she pushed him away and he let go…
If he kissed her, with or without a tongue, he was wrong. He was wrong for taking the pic pretending to grope her, but there’s more to this.
Is it possible for her to be both right in the claim she makes and self-serving in that this gives her attention? I mean, let’s remember she is a public persona as a radio host.
Now I won’t pretend to understand her motivations and I’m not “victim blaming”, but everyone seems pretty willing to give Moore the benefit of the doubt, does Franken deserve it as well?
As far as Mr. Moore, the day 4 accusers had come forward, I called into a radio show and said that I worried about how little evidence there was and that we shouldn’t be so quick to judge. If all it takes to convince the public is a story in the WP about 4 women making accusations from 30 years ago, what if this story ends up being fake, or what happens when someone you like is similarly accused? I thought then there was a rush to judgment. Since then there are more stories.
I tend to believe them because, if it’s true, and the Post found the women (meaning they didn’t come forward), that lends a bit of credibility.
As far as the signature in the yearbook, if you were going to fake something, that seems like a pretty stupid thing to fake as it proves almost nothing.
Having said that, I think there is some truth to it, but I’m willing to let the evidence speak for itself, in both cases.