The shooting began about 9:35 a.m., the parent said. There was a “pop pop pop” in the hall outside the room. Three people went out of the room into the hall where the sounds had come from. “Only one person came back,” we were told.The witness told Artley that she then called 911. She said she never saw the shooter but she later was escorted outside the room past two bodies lying in blood.
Folks, fwiw, this is where I grew up. Not that it’s likely I know anyone involved, as I moved from there so many years ago, but it still feels like it hit ‘close to home.’ Seems surreal.
And such an unlikely place for something like that to place. Quiet, affluent, what I call a cross between suburban and rural, as it’s a quaint, but spread out. To give you an idea, it’s where Paul Newman lives, and his home isn’t all that untypical of many of the residents.
Gosh, this is awful. :sad:
I grew up in southern Connecticut. It’s a lovely community. What unspeakable horror. Just as the shooter intended, unfortunately, the coward. And I am angry, and not just at the shooter.
And so starts the gun banning debate again… I think this is just the thing for the democrats to jump on and ban gun usage. I already see Europeans claiming that if we didn’t have guns this wouldn’t have happened. This will also be the main talking points on MSNBC and NBC tonight! I think this is the one that will push them over the edge!
My heart goes out to the families and the community.
Makes me sick, unfortunately I now have to worry about anti-gun measures as well.
Who else are you angry with? And why?
Turned on the t.v. at 3 pm. Happened to be on CBS. Already is. The main talking point, I mean.
(Need I add how fast the channel got changed?)
Amen to that. My wife and I were enjoying a Pizza this afternoon in our favorite Pizza Restaurant when they flashed this heart breaking story on the Restaurant’s large TV screen in the dining area, and the awfulness of this absurd evil senseless tragic crime took all the enjoyment out of everything for us, we have children and grandchildren that we love very much, and we could just imagine how emotionally crushing this was for the families of these children. Its a sad day in America for everybody with a heart, especially for all close-knit Family People in America.
Absolutely terrible. Regardless of political views, all can come together in condemning this shooting and consoling the victims and their families.
However, this exactly is why gun laws in America need to be tighter.
Well it’s true that if nobody had guns, this wouldn’t have happened. But sadly, “killing machines” are so prevalent in today’s society that every man and his dog can own one if he puts his mind to it. You could ban them tomorrow, and all the law abiding citizens would give them up, while the scumbags wouldn’t. A sad state of affairs.
The Duke of Edinburgh, after the Dunblane massacre in Scotland in 1996 and after the ban on handguns was announced, declared "If a cricketer, for instance, suddenly decided to go into a school and batter a lot of people to death with a cricket bat, which he could do very easily, I mean, are you going to ban cricket bats? I think one’s got to make a difference between what the weapons can do and what the people can do.’’
You can’t go into a school with a cricket bat and kill 27 people. Not to mention that cricket bats have legitimate uses outside of killing things.
A full and total ban on guns is not practical or logical. However, procuring a gun should be a very, very long and intense process, in order to ensure that the only people getting guns are 100% equipped and able to handle the responsibility that having a deadly weapon entails. In addition, semiautomatic bans need to be banned - there is absolutely no logical reason for a person to ever need a semiautomatic gun.
Every teacher and administrator should be required to own and carry a firearm.
They should be trained and refreshed before every school year begins and be required to practice at least twice a month at a range as a condition of employment.
Guns are not the problem, the problem is that guns have been so demonized by the Left that every scumbag who decides to do something like this is guaranteed a multitude of sitting duck targets that can offer little to no resistance.
Schools, Churches, Malls, Movie Theaters and countless other entities are regularly packed with people who have no viable means to defend themselves against a madman with lots of ammunition.
Every time a group of liars with no conscience or shame uses an event like this to blame an object instead of the guilty the potential for more tragedies increase.
They know this as well as well as I do, they just see the dead as an acceptable price to pay to achieve their political goals.
An opinion on gun control
Within hours people on the radio were already discussing gun control. It’s like advocates of gun control want things like this to happen.
This is simply not feasible. Teachers aren’t hired for their marksmanship. They are hired for their ability to teach. Will we next require bus drivers or movie theater employees to carry guns as well? Not everyone is skilled in wielding a gun, and it is not our job to require them to gain that skill in order to teach.
And then when a shooting does happen, you have a bunch of teachers trained by the lowest bidder running around trying to fend off a person who more than likely is more skilled at handling a gun than they are, and in all likelihood the situation is made worse. When a gunman comes in, the schools have the right idea: lay low until help arrives, and focus on protecting the children and getting them out of the building.
What would stop things like this happening is if the media didn’t glorify the killer 24/7 after it happens. These killers are crazy, evil people and they need to be denied the honor of fame after their deeds. CNN, Fox, MSNBC, CBS, and all the major cable news networks should make it a policy to limit coverage of shootings after they take place, rather than having them go out in a blaze of glory.
Let me tell you a story. The day after Columbine, I was interviewed for the Tom Brokaw news program. The reporter had been assigned a theory and was seeking sound bites to support it. “Wouldn’t you say,” she asked, “that killings like this are influenced by violent movies?” No, I said, I wouldn’t say that. “But what about ‘Basketball Diaries’?” she asked. “Doesn’t that have a scene of a boy walking into a school with a machine gun?” The obscure 1995 Leonardo Di Caprio movie did indeed have a brief fantasy scene of that nature, I said, but the movie failed at the box office (it grossed only $2.5 million), and it’s unlikely the Columbine killers saw it.
The reporter looked disappointed, so I offered her my theory. “Events like this,” I said, “if they are influenced by anything, are influenced by news programs like your own. When an unbalanced kid walks into a school and starts shooting, it becomes a major media event. Cable news drops ordinary programming and goes around the clock with it. The story is assigned a logo and a theme song; these two kids were packaged as the Trench Coat Mafia. The message is clear to other disturbed kids around the country: If I shoot up my school, I can be famous. The TV will talk about nothing else but me. Experts will try to figure out what I was thinking. The kids and teachers at school will see they shouldn’t have messed with me. I’ll go out in a blaze of glory.”
In short, I said, events like Columbine are influenced far less by violent movies than by CNN, the NBC Nightly News and all the other news media, who glorify the killers in the guise of “explaining” them. I commended the policy at the Sun-Times, where our editor said the paper would no longer feature school killings on Page 1. The reporter thanked me and turned off the camera. Of course the interview was never used. They found plenty of talking heads to condemn violent movies, and everybody was happy.
they may or may no want stuff like this to occur, but they will never let a good crisis go to waste.
Knife-wielding man injures 22 children in China
knife control is inevitable
It’s like advocates of gun control want things like this to happen.
*Don’t be silly. Nobody ever WANTS to see anything like this happen.
RET423, the solution to the problem of gun violence is not to give out more guns. That’s just attempting to cover up the problem, not attacking it in a way that would decisively prevent shootings like this from happening. Even if the teacher did have a gun and was appropriately trained, he/she would likely not be willing to shoot first, meaning that there would be deaths anyway. But if the shooter was unable to ever even get the gun, there wouldn’t be any deaths.
You say people don’t have the ability to defend themselves against “a madman with lots of ammunition.” So why not make sure that the madmen in the world aren’t able to get their hands on “lots of ammunition,” instead of forcing everyone else to change their behaviors to accommodate their fear of the madman?
Areas that have more lawful gun ownership tend to have lower violent crime rates. Where I live break ins are rare. It is well known that most here are well-armed and it may be that last place they break into.
THe PROBLEM is mental illness.
While it’s true that areas with high percentages of gun ownership have lower crime rates, the crimes that do occur tend to be more serious and violent in nature (i.e. higher homicide rates). So essentially you can feel pretty confident that you won’t get broken into, but you might want to worry about getting shot.