Sermons on biblical sexuality illegal in Iowa?


#1

A Christian church in Iowa is suing the state’s civil rights commission, claiming the state is trying to censor the church’s teachings on sexuality and force the church to allow men who identify as women to use the women’s restrooms.
At issue is the commission’s interpretation of the 2007 Iowa Civil Rights Act, which made it illegal to discriminate against a person on the basis of their self-identified sexual orientation or gender identity. The church is also challenging an almost identical provision in the Des Moines City Code

Lawsuit: Iowa Trying To Force Church To Let Men In Women’s Bathrooms | Weasel Zippers

While attacks on christians are still going hot and heavy keep in mind that muslims do not have to adhere to the same requirements for many things that is being fostered on organizations which are meant to undo their values.


#2

Sermons on biblical sexuality illegal in Iowa?
Created by ADF
Jul 05, 2016

DES MOINES, Iowa – Alliance Defending Freedom attorneys representing an Iowa church filed a federal lawsuit Monday against members of the Iowa Civil Rights Commission, among others, to stop the government from censoring the church’s teaching on biblical sexuality and from forcing the church to open its restrooms and showers to members of the opposite sex.

The commission is interpreting a state law to ban churches from expressing their views on human sexuality if they would “directly or indirectly” make “persons of any particular…gender identity” feel “unwelcome” in conjunction with church services, events, and other religious activities. The speech ban could be used to gag churches from making any public comments—including from the pulpit—that could be viewed as unwelcome to persons who do not identify with their biological sex. This is because the commission says the law applies to churches during any activity that the commission deems to not have a “bona fide religious purpose.” Examples the commission gave are “a child care facility operated at a church or a church service open to the public,” which encompasses most events that churches hold.

ADF attorneys representing Fort Des Moines Church of Christ in Des Moines argue in the lawsuit that all events held at a church on its property have a bona fide religious purpose, and that the commission has no authority to violate the First Amendment’s guarantees of freedom of religion and speech.

Short of insanely criminal things - e.g. human sacrifices - government has no business defining “bona fide religious purpose”. The First Amendment says, “Congress shall make no law … or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” and means just that!


#3

Mea goofa! I posted a duplicate thread. Because the title of my later thread goes more to the heart of the issue, with apologies to [MENTION=476]samspade[/MENTION], I used the title from that thread.

This is a very broad issue - touching what can or cannot be taught, how ministries can be run, and how facilities can be managed. This is also an odoriferous example of how “public accommodation” laws were designed to be flexibly interpreted means for activists of virtually any Lib-Prog stripe to jam their agenda down the collective throat of people, businesses, and charitable organizations the activists hate.


#4

More ridiculous assaults on our freedom. This is just beyond words and unsurprising.


#5

Again, this not (or should NOT be an issue) we have clarification on this already, its called the 1st Amend our Bill of Rights. NO where in the BoR do I see anything (in my copy) that trannys rights to go to what ever bathroom they want take precedent of my 1st Amend rights. Granted if anyone has a copy of our Constitution showing trannys rights supersede all others please let me know.

IMO this has NOTHING to do with tranny rights or any other BS. The point that is being made is that the Govt can give you rights that overrule the US Constitution…FOLKS we are going down a chit hole really REALLY fast!!!


#6

Who didn’t see this coming?:whistle:

*snip

An Iowa church just wants to be free to preach the gospel, but the state’s so-called nondiscrimination requirements could block the house of worship from doing just that.

Lawyers for the church are asking a federal court to prevent Iowa from censoring what the religious group can say about homosexuality, same-sex “marriage,” transgenderism and other related topics.

The case erupted when the state’s Civil Rights Commission first claimed the authority to control the content of sermons and then to define what’s religious.

At issue is the state’s nondiscrimination requirements that specify any “public accommodation” can be ordered not to say anything that might make a homosexual or a transgender feel “unwelcome,” such as even reading from the Bible a condemnation of such behavior.

Lawyers for the Alliance Defending Freedom, who are representing the church, have filed a reply in support of their motion for a preliminary injunction that would protect the church members’ constitutional rights while the case plays out.

Without that order, they contend the speech of the Fort Des Moines Church of Christ and its pastors and members is being unconstitutionally limited.

The state commission declined, again, to respond to a WND request for comment.

Holy war: Government tries to control church sermons


#7

These being the same story, I merged the threads. Here the Alliance Defending Freedom’s article on this (partial quote):

ADF attorneys dismantle Iowa commission’s defense of church speech ban
Created by ADF Aug, 09, 2016

DES MOINES, Iowa – Alliance Defending Freedom attorneys representing an Iowa church filed a brief Monday in federal court that exposes deficiencies in the Iowa Civil Rights Commission’s arguments against suspending a law that censors and attempts to control churches. The commission’s application of the law censors the church’s teaching on biblical sexuality and forces the church to open its restrooms and showers to members of the opposite sex under certain conditions that the government dictates.

Last month, ADF attorneys filed a motion to temporarily suspend application of the law while the case moves forward in court and explained that recent changes to a public accommodations brochure the commission produced are insufficient to alleviate the concerns raised in the church’s lawsuit. The commission responded by doubling down on its extraconstitutional claim that it has the power to apply the law to churches and determine whether their activities are religious or not. It specifically analogized churches to for-profit businesses, seeming to miss the obvious constitutional differences between the two.

“Churches should be free to communicate their religious beliefs and operate their houses of worship according to their faith without fearing government punishment,” said ADF Legal Counsel Christiana Holcomb. “It’s not good enough for government officials to say we should simply trust them to tell us what is religious and what isn’t. The law must be clear, and at present, the only thing that’s clear is that the law gives too much power to government bureaucrats who don’t even seem to understand the most basic constitutional principles.”

“In the meantime, the court should issue an injunction that makes certain that this law won’t be enforced against our client while this lawsuit proceeds,” added ADF Senior Counsel Steven O’Ban. …