Students design soclalist-communist flags


#1

This is one of the reasons why public school kids can’t read, write simple sentences, or solve simple mathematical problems without a calculator…

Texas 6th Graders Design Flags for a New Socialist Nation - Kyle Olson - [page]


#2

There was a comment on that article that seemed to think that appropriate, because of what it was “teaching” about other cultures. Baloney! If you want to show them about other cultures (i.e., what is wrong with them), the best way to go about it is to thoroughly saturate them with the knowledge of their own country and their own beginnings. It will result in a lesser likelihood of their seeing the “good” in socialism.

I would also use this example in religious training. There are too many teaching tools that tell us what is wrong with many of the cults. Instead of teaching them what is wrong with the cults, they should be thoroughly immersed in what their own faith stands for, and in the knowledge of the Bible. If they are thoroughly versed in the Bible, they won’t have to be told what is wrong with the cults, or other religions.

Although I dispute some of the ideas that the Catholic Church clings to, I salute them in the solid training they give their youngsters. We should all be so disciplined in training our young people so that they can see what is wrong with other systems.


#3

As if its not possible that other cultures are correct. How ethnocentric are you? Oh yes, teach about other cultures but only teach about the bad stuff. That’s ridiculous.

We should teach people to see what’s wrong with EVERY system not just indoctrinate people that all beliefs are wrong except for their own.

Socialism is an economic system, not a culture. Weird how I know that even though my education is “warped” and you obviously don’t


#4

How in the world did you get that out of what I said?


#5

By reading your post. You make it pretty obvious.


#6

[quote=“Susanna, post:2, topic:38105”]
There was a comment on that article that seemed to think that appropriate, because of what it was “teaching” about other cultures. Baloney! If you want to show them about other cultures (i.e., what is wrong with them), the best way to go about it is to thoroughly saturate them with the knowledge of their own country and their own beginnings. It will result in a lesser likelihood of their seeing the “good” in socialism.

I would also use this example in religious training. There are too many teaching tools that tell us what is wrong with many of the cults. Instead of teaching them what is wrong with the cults, they should be thoroughly immersed in what their own faith stands for, and in the knowledge of the Bible. If they are thoroughly versed in the Bible, they won’t have to be told what is wrong with the cults, or other religions.

Although I dispute some of the ideas that the Catholic Church clings to, I salute them in the solid training they give their youngsters. We should all be so disciplined in training our young people so that they can see what is wrong with other systems.
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Thanks, Susanna! I know that we have differences, but I like to focus on the similarities because that is what I believe Our Lord would want. The bottom line for me is that we all love Our Lord and want to be with Him in Heaven. What better reason to be brothers and sisters in Christ? I can’t think of any! God bless you, Susanna!


#7

I have a Catholic neighbor who is a very good friend, and we have a lot of common ground. I got to thinking, we may all get some surprises about some of the things we believe when we get to Heaven. Some writer - I think it was Randy Alcorn - suggested that we may still debate doctrinal differences in Heaven, but I just don’t think so. I look at it this way: we might think, “Oh, I was wrong about that!” or “I was right, after all!” or we may just not think about it, because we know the truth “now,” so why have any concern about it? C.S. Lewis said that “we all have some wrong opinions. But we don’t know which of our opinions are wrong, or we would drop them.” (paraphrased).

According to my great-niece Kathryn, (who has seen some of Heaven on several occasions), there is Bible study in Heaven. One of the times she was taken there (it happens occasionally when she is in great unbearable pain, yet she is wholly conscious of this world, and the people around her), she learned that two of her great-grandmothers (who had never met on earth) are very good friends in heaven, and they study the Bible together. I imagine, studying the Bible in Heaven, you will often see something that always puzzled you, and say, “Oh, so that’s what that means!” BTW, one of the great-grandmothers she saw is my mother.


#8

What a delightfully wonderful idea! I believe there will be LOTS of surprises once we’re in Heaven! There was a joke going around sometime ago that went something like this: A bunch of Christians were let into the gates of Heaven by St. Peter. As they were walking through Heaven with St. Peter, they came across a mansion where there was loud laughter and gaiety going on. St. Peter motioned to the walkers to be quiet. When this happened, one of the walkers asked St. Peter why they had to be quiet. St. Peter replied, “That mansion has Catholics in it. They think they’re the only ones here…” I think that’s how it went. Lots of surprises in store, that’s for sure!


#9

Yeah, I’ve heard one similar to that, but I’ve heard different versions of it, too - in one version, it was the Baptists that thought they were the only ones there.

BTW, when Kennedy was running for President, and all the Catholic jokes were going around, I heard most of them from a Catholic.


#10

Well, quite frankly, he was/is an embarrassment to the Catholic faith. I never cared for him and I dislike him even more now that his immoral life has been exposed. He and his brothers Robert and Ted caused great public scandal by their behavior and caused many people to think that their behavior was typical of most Catholics. (Unfortunately, today many Catholics are Catholic in name only.) All of the male members of the Kennedy family seem to have been morally destitute even down to some of the younger cousins in the last 30 years.


#11

The family money came from bootlegging during Prohibition. And the old man was known to have told his sons, “Your money will get you anything you want.” A sad commentary. And look what happened to them all - Joe died in the military (I think - an honorable death), Robert & John were both assassinated (as well as tarnishing the family name by the scandals), and Teddy died a drunk, with an unacknowledged murder on his account. But look at so many Catholic politicians today. They try to have everything both ways. And Catholics aren’t the only ones who live below their standards. I like to comment about many people who live above their theology (when I think their theology is lacking), but there are all too many who live below it. And others (like a few I could name on this board) have their own theology, which is whatever suits them.


#12

Yep…and daddy Kennedy was also heavily involved with the mob during prohibition. I don’t doubt that he instilled in his boys the idea that because of their money, they were above the law. You are right about all the so-called “catholics” especially in politics today: Pelosi, Sebellius, and many others who cause great public scandal.


#13

And while Kennedy Senior was the Ambassador to England, he supported . . . drum roll . . . HITLER! In fact, I think he advised Neville Chamberlain to make his now famous (infamous?) deal with Hitler.


#14

I believe it. There is a special program on the Military Channel called “Nazi Collaborators” that I’ve been watching. I cannot believe some of the traitors who conspired with the Nazis to the destruction and detriment of their own countries!


#15

Ok, back to the topic; Susanna is correct, For those who wish to learn about cults and other religions, FIRST they MUST learn their own. You will never see Mormons, or Jehovah Witnesses, Islam, or any religious group EXCEPT for Christianity, teaching anything but their own doctrine. If you introduce vinegar onto a cookie recipe what do you get? an inedible cookie.
I spoke to my grandson at Thanksgiving. He is a Youth pastor in a large church in a midwestern city. I asked him what he had been teaching recently, and he told me about the world religion classes throughout the summer and fall. And now he tells me he is going to teach on Christianity as one of the world religions. " It gives the kids open choices" I did truly bawl him and his wife out. I am so sorry he got himself into one of these liberal protestant churches where all religions are equal and we are free to choose. I did have such high hopes for him.


#16

I don’t understand why people are up in arm’s about the socialist flag thing. The quote just says they were asked about the symbolism on certain socialists countries flags and asked “If you were to design one, what would you put on it?” Townhall lies in that they did not actually design one themselves nor were they forced to, but it is interesting to note symbols like the hammer and sickle and the meaning behind it. It would also be interesting to study fascist symbols like the hatchet in a bundle of sticks. How is this somehow “brainwashing”? How is learning about the symbols convincing these kids communist ideas are right? Are we not allowed to talk about communism in schools at all?


#17

Why am I not surprised, Trekky.


#18

Oh the horror!


#19

[quote=“Trekky0623, post:16, topic:38105”]
Are we not allowed to talk about communism in schools at all?
[/quote]We indeed DID in my high school, and it was a CATHOLIC HIGH SCHOOL.

I remember we had a history teacher that posed the scenario: “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need”, and went on to ask the question: “Now what’s wrong with that?”

At first everyone went on about how this was a good idea, and finally the teacher said: “Aha, you’re all communists” and went on to explain the flaws in that famous saying of Karl Marx (though Marx popularized it, he himself was not the originator of the saying . . . something else we learned in that class.)

Pretty soon he got the whole class raising their hands, and when called on we’d start off by saying: “And another flaw in communist theory is . . . blah, blah, blah”.

Bottom line, that lesson was very instructive and got us thinking about what at first appeared to be a pretty good idea to us teenagers with little critical thinking ability. By the end of that lesson he had us all fired up about what was WRONG with communist theory, and thinking about it for ourselves.

Now I don’t know if creating symbols for a fantasy social government flag would do the same thing (doesn’t seem like it), but I do know that talking about communism the way the teacher presented it gave me a better perspective on the issue.


#20

Trekky: The point is that while these “teachers” are playing brainwashing exercises on these kids, the reality is is that our kids barely know how to read, spell, put together a simple sentence, solve simple mathematical problems without a calculator or know where Europe is on a map!! And, don’t fool yourself–the NEA and the Dept. of Education is swarming with radical lefties (left over from the 60’s), marxists, socialists, and communists. I know this for a fact because I have been in education for over 25 years from the classroom to the school boards to the university level. I know what I am talking about.