Super Bowl XLIX

Thought I would start a Super Bowl thread.

I don’t really have a favorite, but I seem to be leaning a little towards the Pats. Don’t know why, other than I had a couple of their players on my Fantasy league team. :grin:

Though I am from New England, for family reasons I am a Colts fan.

Because of what the Pats did to my boys two weeks ago, I have to say: Go Hawks!

Don’t love the Seahawks, don’t love the Pats, don’t love the zebras. I’m rooting for the commercials!


My whole house is rooting for a scoreless tie, if the game goes on until next season without a winner they may just forget about this year altogether.

I am aware that the Vegas odds for this outcome are quite long…

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I hear you. I hope they have some which are NOT pornography.

Yeah, between beer commercials and Go Daddy commercials some get jiggly to the point that the product/service being advertised is obscured.

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What’s everyone doing for the game today? Having a SB party or going to one?

I’m staying home to watch the game with a few family members and plan on eating lots of dip and chips and cook some steaks at half time. :wink:

We always host a Super Bowl Party, mainly because my wife loves to host parties in general so any excuse is good to go!

My Grandbabies will be outfitted in their 49ers jammies and the meat will be excellent, it will be a revolving door of friends and family until about 8:00 P.M. so it should be fun in spite of the lack of enthusiasm for the teams involved.

I couldn’t care less about this game (or many others, for that matter.) The NFL is fraught with overpaid prima donnas, most of whom would be serving time somewhere if they couldn’t outrun, out-jump or out-bulk most other Americans. I feel pretty much the same about the NBA and MLB. I think they should ALL be sued for ageism, racism, sexism and talentism.

Football is the only game that I LOVE to watch. I ignore all the drama that goes on behind the lines.


If I were to care about the game and who’s side I was on, I would side with this young man!

Seattle Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson said at the Super Bowl media day on Tuesday that though he loves playing football, his “faith is everything”.

Wilson, 26, said that while he wanted to be recognised as a successful football player – a “winner” – he also wanted to leave a legacy as a Christian man who serves others.

“In terms of my legacy off the field, I want to be a Christian man that helps lead and helps change lives and helps serve other people. It’s not about me, you know,” Wilson said. “It’s not about me and it’s about just helping other people. So that’s kind of where I keep my focus.”

During the interviews he included a shout out to children’s hospital in Seattle he visits every Tuesday. “To all the kids out there, I’m just praying for you guys, and praying for miracles” he said.

“In terms of my faith, my faith is everything: God comes first, family and friends come second, and football comes third,” he said. “I think when you keep it in that order, great things happen to you. You don’t stress out about much.”

Speaking of the importance of integrity, he said: “We all make mistakes or whatever, but we’re football players. We’re able to use our gifts. For me, I’m able to use my gift to glorify God. That’s what it’s about for me.”

Seattle Seahawks’ Russell Wilson: ‘My faith is everything’ | Christian News on Christian Today

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Thanks, Sillipuddi! I didn’t know that about this young man. I may watch the rest of the game after all.

Patriots won 28-24. Good game :beerchug:

[quote=“Cruella, post:13, topic:45940”]
Patriots won 28-24. Good game :beerchug:
[/quote]Well . . . I would agree up until the last 30 seconds or so . . . I’ll comment on that more in a bit.

[quote=“Cruella, post:10, topic:45940”]
Football is the only game that I LOVE to watch. I ignore all the drama that goes on behind the lines.
[/quote]This I agree with 1000%. If I paid attention to all the melodrama, I, like a lot of the others here, likely would not watch it at all.

My interest is the hard hits (which are becoming less and less with these pansy rules . . . the days of Deacon Jones, Sam Huff, Dick Butkus, Conrad Dobler, and Jack Lambert are long gone, and THAT reason for watching it is fast declining) and the strategy . . . defensive and offensive.

(Trivia: I can’t remember exactly who is supposed to have done this, but the story goes that an offensive lineman was repeatedly getting head slapped by the defensive lineman, to the point that this offensive guy was really getting angry. So, while he was on the sideline, the offensive guy put some screws in his helmet with the shank side up. Of course the next time the defensive guy head slapped the offensive guy, the defensive guy ended up with a bloody hand. I have no idea if this is really true or just an urban legend, but it fits with Deacon Jones, Sam Huff, and that crowd.)

I make a layout for the superbowl . . . hot peppers, pickles, cheese, pepperoni, salsa, chips, anchovies, capers, smoked baby clams, smoked oysters, deviled eggs, olives, onions, crackers, etc. (Throws my stomach into knots, and am up all night, but once a year is fine).

So, I sort of have my own party. I figure it’s just once a year, so I can deal with the stomach turmoil from over eating spicy food that one time. Relative to over eating, I stuff my face for the first quarter, rest during the second quarter and halftime, do a little bit the third quarter, and do the max during the fourth quarter.

This was for the 2004 season Superbowl, but I do the same every year.

The arrow is pointing to the tray of deviled eggs that I make.

I make two double rows of deviled eggs. One for my wife, who is a picky eater and doesn’t like spicy food, with just black olives.

And then one row for me with black olives, green olives, capers, dill weed, celery salt, celery seed, and paprika.

I’m not really a Seahawks fan, but I absolutely hate the Pats, so I was rooting for the Seahawks (and that would be part of the reason why I didn’t like the ending.)

Carroll and his offensive coordinator are going to have a hard time living that last throw down.

Even a Pop Warner coach wouldn’t do something as loopy as that.

Some tweets, which pretty well sum up my own feelings on the topic . . .

Golden Tate said:
If I’m Marshawn I’m livid

Emmitt Smith said:
That was the worst play call I’ve seen in the history of football

Niners fullback Bruce Miller said:
Marshawn should have said "yall know why I’m here right?

Former NFL receiver Sidney Rice said:
"*-2nd and goal from the 1 yd line -1 timeout and BEASTMODE IN THE BACKFIELD… I would not have throw that ball to Jerry Rice! *#fail"

Shannon Sharpe said:
2nd dwn, Beast Mode running gr8 and you throw a pass on the 3 yd line. That’s a terrible play call. #Awful.”

Donté Stallworth said:
One of the worst play calls in history of the Super Bowl. Give Marshawn Lynch the ball

Torry Holt said:
terrible call @Seahawks

Carroll has come up with a few lame excuses (like, “It was a clock decision” and “It was supposed to be a throw away play”), but all he’s succeeded in doing is confirming that he’s the laughing airhead frat boy of the NFL.

I know that last play was what everyone is talking about, but as much as winning games is about talent and strategy, there is also that element of “luck” that contributes to a lot of wins and losses.

I thought the catch by the hawks RB, where he juggled the ball in the air while laying on his back was one of the flukiest catches I’ve ever seen. That’s the play the put them near the goal line.

Also, early in the game Brady threw an interception in the end zone too. For me that cancelled out the hawks interception. Had Brady made that touch down, the hawks wouldn’t have had enough points to even be in a position to win.

By the way, those deviled eggs sound yummy. :drool:

I personally think the right team won this year, and not because I’m a fan of either one.

Even so, that pass call at the end will be one of the most inexplicable calls I can ever remember in any Super Bowl game. I watched the last few minutes only for reasons I’ve articulated earlier.

The Seahawks are a classless organization as evidenced by their players taking a dump with the football before a worldwide audience, starting a fistfight during the kneel down at the end because they screwed up a 2nd and goal from the one yard line and tolerating Richard Sherman on their team.

I am glad they lost in spite of my disgust for many aspects of the Patriots, but I may be the only person in America who thought Carrol made the right call in that pass play at the end, it was the only way to insure they would have 3 downs to punch it in if needed.

The QB is told in that scenario “Hit a receiver if you are certain you can, if not throw it out the back of the endzone and stop the clock”, I would have trusted Wilson to handle this play just as Carrol did; he threw a pick instead but I bet 99 times out of hundred he would have successfully protected the football.

The Patriots hadn’t held that Seahawk running back to less than 1 yard all night, however. A handoff to him was virtually a guaranteed TD. The only time they held him to almost “no-gain” was when someone forgot to block the DE and he tackled him from behind. (My wife had recorded the game and I went back to the DVR and replayed it–FFing through commercials, etc. because I couldn’t fathom why the coach would call a pass play in those circumstances.)

The Seahawks had their 2 minute passing offense on the field and the Patriots choosing to NOT call a timeout but instead just run their goal line defense onto the field meant that the Seahawks had to either burn their last timeout to get their run offense onto the field or take the five yard delay of game penalty if they wanted to try a run; you can’t lead block into a power defense with wide receivers and expect to even get back to the line of scrimmage.

By trying a pass play you take advantage of the mismatch (there power defense against your speed passing offense) and you avoid the 5 yard penalty while preserving your last timeout. If your QB finds a receiver you get the score, if he does not and throws the ball away you now have the time to get whatever offensive package you want on the field for 3rd down and a timeout to give you another well planned effort on 4th down if needed; all from the one yard line.

But the QB has to protect the ball.

If they had run Lynch with their pass offense he would have most likely been stopped in the backfield with the clock running, now you have further to go with less time and you still must make your substitutions with the clock running or burn your last timeout. If you choose to burn the timeout you set yourself up for a hurried try on 4th down before the clock expires if you don’t make it, this increases the odds of an offensive penalty which would mandate a clock runoff that would end the game.

Carrol made the smart decision to capitalize on everything he had and the personnel circumstances he was in, Wilson just made a bad decision on the throw.


Clearly we disagree, and as you said, you are in the minority (which doesn’t necessarily mean you’re incorrect . . . I would have had the minority opinion that it was still a stupid call even if Wilson had completed that pass . . . I will 'splain in a bit.)

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The Seahawks had their 2 minute passing offense on the field and the Patriots choosing to NOT call a timeout but instead just run their goal line defense onto the field meant that the Seahawks had to either burn their last timeout
[/quote]So, what . . . was Carroll holding it in his pocket for a field goal that wouldn’t win the game anyway? Of course not.

He was holding it because he thought that maybe Marshawn wouldn’t make it and the PATS would do the usual delay in letting Marshawn up and thus run out the clock. That part, I get.

So I can see the “clock management” aspect, though Carroll himself admitted that using the timeout for an aborted run by Lynch was “OK”:

If we had run it on that down right there, we’d have had to have used our timeout, which would probably have been okay

BUT, choosing a play where you throw to the MIDDLE OF THE FIELD did not make sense to me.

Now, in the regular season, there were 61 TD passes thrown from the 1 yard line. Most of them, though, were back shoulder fades to corners of the end zone, NOT to the middle of the defense. It’s a lot easier to throw the ball away on one of those corner end zone fade routes.

Which brings me to my next criticism. There is one individual that’s getting way to much of a pass on that pass: Wilson, the anointed one of the NFL. Perhaps an experienced QB would have had the sense to pull the ball down on a checkdown of such a boneheaded call, but Wilson, who threw four interceptions in the packers game would not give me a warm and fuzzy on a play call for a throw TO THE MIDDLE OF THE DEFENSE, especially when the only way you could lose was an interception, and especially when you have a running back that ran for 17 TD’s this season (the most in the NFL), and 102 yards in the Super Bowl.

Plus, Wilson lead his receiver. You can’t do that when an interception means the game. The ball has to be in a place where only YOUR guy can catch it. It has to be thrown lower, and it has to be on the back shoulder.

That was the worst Super Bowl pass since Garo Yepremian’s. But Carroll is just as guilty.

But I’m not necessarily saying to run Lynch ON THAT PLAY . . . I don’t disagree that it was not the right match up AT THAT TIME. But if you’re going to throw it, make it a safe back shoulder fade route to the corner.

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Carrol made the smart decision to capitalize on everything he had and the personnel circumstances he was in, Wilson just made a bad decision on the throw.
[/quote]No, Carroll made a “cutesie” decision, for which some would have called him “brilliant” if the pass had been completed.

This is where I would have fallen in the minority, because even if it had been completed, I would still have considered the call stupid. Dumb luck? Yes. Brilliant? No.

I would not have thrown the ball to Jerry Rice, even if he was covered by Mini-Me!

Now to be fair to Carroll, you can’t have expected him to have known that an undrafted kid who had been kicked off a community college team in Mississippi and then played Division II football at West Alabama turned out to be smarter than Carroll. Butler saw the formation the Seahawks were in, saw three wide receivers, and at that moment Carroll had pretty much shouted to Butler the play he intended to run.

But as the NYT wrote, “The only way to be unpredictable is to be a little bit random.”

So was Carroll just a victim of randomness? Perhaps. Consider this. On Dec. 31, 1967 the Packers were in Super Bowl II. Would we consider Vince Lombardi sainted if Bart Starr had slipped and fallen shy of the end zone in the Ice Bowl and the clock had run out?

Of course, I’ll freely admit that us armchair quarterbacks love to think we’re smarter than head coaches, so my “I would not have . . .” is really meaningless.

In the 2009 season, Belichick went for it on fourth down and inches when he was on HIS OWN 28 yard line. The PATS didn’t make it, and Peyton Manning and the Colts went on to win. Had they made it, Belichick would have been considered “brilliant”. Instead he became the poster boy for an advertising campaign using the phrase, “What was he thinking?”

(I know a thing or two about questionable decisions, having made plenty myself.)

But all that died down soon, and was soon forgotten because Belichick has been sainted by the press. Carroll won’t get off so easily.

He has done this before. Carroll’s USC Trojans were leading Texas in the Rose Bowl. Instead of calling a play to hand the ball off to his Heiseman Trophy back Reggie Bush (who I think was on the sideline anyway), Carroll called a play to hand it off to a lesser back. He didn’t make a first down, and Texas went on to win the Rose Bowl . . . Carroll’s call being blamed for the loss of a third National Championship and the also being the biggest mistake of his coaching career . . . up until this year’s Super Bowl of course.

USC fans were not surprised by Carroll’s call in the Super Bowl.

The line between genius and idiocy is blurred. Carroll tried to straddle that line IN THE SUPER BOWL by trying a “cutesie” call that if successful would would have portrayed him as a genius.

Belicheck has since called the criticism of Carroll “out of line”. I was intrigued by this statement and went in search of something substantive that Belichick had said along with this utterance. Nothing! My conclusion: Belichick wants to portray a PATS hard fought win instead of the line that Carroll HANDED him an easy win, just as he handed one to Texas.

Carroll might have been known as the only coach in history to win two Super Bowls and two college football national championships. Instead, he will be known as the guy that gave two titles away.

The call is only something I can speculate about, and as I said, my armchair quarterback status does not qualify me for a professional opinion. I don’t know what Carroll knew. Maybe the Seahawks had run that play in practice a gazillion times, and Wilson completed that pass a gazillion times.

But Carroll was corralled by the ghosts of that Rose Bowl in 2006 where he blew it.

It isn’t all that serious though. A football coach made a stupid call in a football game. Except I think this one is going to stick to Carroll like Krazy Glue.