THE EPIC "Trump Won" Thread

In TV and the movies, circumstantial evidence is usually ‘blown off’ as near nothing. While direct evidence is portrayed as damning. Inference is the key as circumstantial evidence relies on inference to connect it to a conclusion of fact. In effect, circumstantial evidence allows for more than one interpretation and explanation of fact. All forensic evidence supplied on testimony by an expert witness is usually treated as circumstantial evidence. (source link)

Cases Won on Circumstantial Evidence

It requires the totality of circumstances to construct an inference, not the obviousness of the conclusion to establish circumstantial evidence. So, the majority of those convicted have been by a majority if not entirely by circumstantial evidence. Guilt or innocence is established by circumstantial evidence through reasoning. In most cases those who commit criminal acts tend to avoid conditions that would provide direct evidence. Criminal activities are generally done in secret, not openly. In the submission of circumstantial evidence, it depends on the attorney of either side to weave various bits and pieces into an understandable whole, or if defending to punch holes into the logical inference. If reasoning is the rational for establishing circumstantial evidence it is logical to expect reasoning to be used to refute it as well. (source link)

2020 Election

The totality of circumstances regarding the 2020 Election construct an inference that there was overwhelming fraud, and through reasoning, in a court of law, a prosecutor could convince a jury that the election was stolen.


Throughout this thread I will post various evidence. As the list grows and grows, totality of circumstantial evidence will allow us to come to the reasonable conclusion that the election was stolen.

1. The Documentary 2000 Mules

I am shocked that there is no dedicated thread about this awesome piece of work. If you have not seen it yet you need to. The technology used is irrefutable. Anyone today who says there was not widespread coordinated voter fraud is a full-blown pathological liar.

2. Pennsylvania court: Secretary of state lacked authority to change deadline 2 days before Election Day

Pennsylvania Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar violated the law and allowed proof of identification for mail in ballots to be provided up until Nov. 12. State law said that voters have until six days after the election — this year that was Nov. 9 — to cure problems regarding a lack of proof of identification. Had the law been followed, Trump would have won, and many illegitimate ballots would not have been counted as legitimate. Pennsylvania’s court decided that the Secretary of state lacked authority to change deadline 2 days before Election Day. Furthermore, Trump expected the action from the Supreme Court regarding whether the Pennsylvania Supreme Court acted properly in granting the three-day extension for accepting mail-in ballots, and SCOTUS dropped the ball, not for the first or last time.

3. Conflicting Data

The claim is that Biden won 81+m votes, but despite this they lost house seats in the bluest of areas like New York and California. How could the biggest win in history not affect the down ballot races and not translate anywhere close to Biden’s votes?

Trump won African-American majority counties 9% to Biden’s 8%, he won Hispanic-majority counties by 39% to Biden’s 19%, and Trump set GOP records with minority voters not seen since the 1960’s. How are these things possible with Bidens massive win?

Trump INCREASED his votes between elections, by over 10.5m, which is second or third historically, and that almost never happens. Obama lost close to 4-5 million and was re-elected.

How did Biden win the most amount of votes ever on record, yet win the election with the fewest amount of counties won, also a record?

How did Trump lose the election, while carrying 99% of all Bellwether counties by an average of a 16-point margin? That many Bellwether counties being wrong on an election outcome is a statistical anomaly not ever seen on record.

Referring to the first post, the totally of this evidence is reaching a point where we can make a reasonable inference.

4. Scientific Proof of 2020 Election Fraud by Mike Lindell, featuring Dr. Douglas G Frank 03.31.21

Dr. Douglas G. Frank has approximately sixty peer-reviewed scientific publications, including feature and cover articles in the leading scientific journals in the world (Science, Nature, Naturwissenschaften). During his graduate and postdoctoral work he discovered and developed a new type of microscopy capable of producing three-dimensional images of molecules resting on metal surfaces. This gave him international credibility in the area of Low Energy Electron Diffraction (LEED) and Auger electron spectroscopy and microscopy, and his work is prominently featured in college textbooks and handbooks on the subjects.

Dr. Frank left university academics in 1996, and began consulting, developing, and manufacturing surface analytical devices for national defense (DARPA) and various industries, especially the cleaning products industry and bowling ball manufacturers, where his custom electronics, software, inventions, and products continue to be widely used as industrial standards. Much of his work is protected by non-disclosure agreements.

During the 1990s, Dr. Frank helped to establish The Schilling School for Gifted Children in Cincinnati, Ohio. Schilling is a K-12 school for extraordinarily gifted youngsters, and Dr. Frank continues to teach a couple of their most advanced math and science classes each year, and continues to serve as the Math and Science Department chair. He earned a Ph.D. in Surface Electroanalytical Chemistry from the University of Cincinnati in 1990.


5. Absolute Proof, by Mike Lindell


6. Banned 2006 CNN Report On Smartmatic Being Used For Election Fraud

7. Dr. Douglas Frank "2020 Election Algorithms"



8. SMOKING GUN: Electronic Vote Fraud Caught LIVE on CNN!


10. More Conflicting Data

Four More Ways Joe Biden Magically Outperformed Election Norms**

In all the excitement among objective journalists for Joe Biden’s declared victory, reporters are missing how extraordinary the Democrat’s performance was in the 2020 election. It’s not just that the former vice president is on track to become the oldest president in American history, it’s what he managed to accomplish at the polls this year.

Candidate Joe Biden was so effective at animating voters in 2020 that he received a record number of votes, more than 15 million more than Barack Obama received in his re-election of 2012. Amazingly, he managed to secure victory while also losing in almost every bellwether county across the country. No presidential candidate has been capable of such electoral jujitsu until now.

While Biden underperformed Hillary Clinton’s 2016 totals in every urban county in the United States, he outperformed her in the metropolitan areas of Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. Even more surprising, the former VP put up a record haul of votes, despite Democrats’ general failures in local House and state legislative seats across the nation.

He accomplished all this after receiving a record low share of the primary vote compared to his Republican opponent heading into the general election. Clearly, these are tremendous and unexpected achievements that would normally receive sophisticated analysis from the journalist class but have somehow gone mostly unmentioned during the celebrations at news studios in New York City and Washington, D.C.

The massive national political realignment now taking place may be one source of these surprising upsets. Yet still, to have pulled so many rabbits out of his hat like this, nobody can deny that Biden is a first-rate campaigner and politician, the likes of which America has never before seen. Let’s break down just how unique his political voodoo has been in 2020.

** 80 Million Votes**

Holy moly! A lot of Americans turned out for a Washington politician who’s been in office for nearly 50 years. Consider this: no incumbent president in nearly a century and a half has gained votes in a re-election campaign and still lost.

President Trump gained more than ten million votes since his 2016 victory, but Biden’s appeal was so substantial that it overcame President Trump’s record support among minority voters. Biden also shattered Barack Obama’s own popular vote totals, really calling into question whether it was not perhaps Biden who pulled Obama across the finish lines in 2008 and 2012.

Proving how sharp his political instincts are, the former VP managed to gather a record number of votes while consistently trailing President Trump in measures of voter enthusiasm. Biden was so savvy that he motivated voters unenthusiastic about his campaign to vote for him in record numbers.

** Winning Despite Losing Most Bellwether Counties**

Biden is set to become the first president in 60 years to lose the states of Ohio and Florida on his way to election. For a century, these states have consistently predicted the national outcome, and they have been considered roughly representative of the American melting pot as a whole. Despite national polling giving Biden a lead in both states, he lost Ohio by eight points and Florida by more than three.

For Biden to lose these key bellwethers by notable margins and still win the national election is newsworthy. Not since the Mafia allegedly aided John F. Kennedy in winning Illinois over Richard Nixon in 1960 has an American president pulled off this neat trick.

Even more unbelievably, Biden is on his way to winning the White House after having lost almost every historic bellwether county across the country. The Wall Street Journal and The Epoch Times independently analyzed the results of 19 counties around the United States that have nearly perfect presidential voting records over the last 40 years. President Trump won every single bellwether county, except Clallam County in Washington.

Whereas the former VP picked up Clallam by about three points, President Trump’s margin of victory in the other 18 counties averaged over 16 points. In a larger list of 58 bellwether counties that have correctly picked the president since 2000, Trump won 51 of them by an average of 15 points, while the other seven went to Biden by around four points. Bellwether counties overwhelmingly chose President Trump, but Biden found a path to victory anyway.

** Biden Won Despite Democrat Losses Everywhere Else**

Randy DeSoto noted in The Western Journal that “Donald Trump was pretty much the only incumbent president in U.S. history to lose his re-election while his own party gained seats in the House of Representatives.” Now that’s a Biden miracle!

In 2020, The Cook Political Report and The New York Times rated 27 House seats as toss-ups going into Election Day. Right now, Republicans appear to have won all 27. Democrats failed to flip a single state house chamber, while Republicans flipped both the House and Senate in New Hampshire and expanded their dominance of state legislatures across the country.

Christina Polizzi, a spokesperson for the Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee, went so far as to state: “It’s clear that Trump isn’t an anchor for the Republican legislative candidates. He’s a buoy.” Amazingly, Biden beat the guy who lifted all other Republicans to victory. Now that’s historic!

** Biden Overcame Trump’s Commanding Primary Vote**

In the past, primary vote totals have been remarkably accurate in predicting general election winners. Political analyst David Chapman highlighted three historical facts before the election.

First, no incumbent who has received 75 percent of the total primary vote has lost re-election. Second, President Trump received 94 percent of the primary vote, which is the fourth highest of all time (higher than Dwight Eisenhower, Nixon, Clinton, or Obama). In fact, Trump is only one of five incumbents since 1912 to receive more than 90 percent of the primary vote.

Third, Trump set a record for most primary votes received by an incumbent when more than 18 million people turned out for him in 2020 (the previous record, held by Bill Clinton, was half that number). For Biden to prevail in the general election, despite Trump’s historic support in the primaries, turns a century’s worth of prior election data on its head.

Joe Biden achieved the impossible. It’s interesting that many more journalists aren’t pointing that out.

More proof to come

You would do well to put the 2020 election behind you. It’s over, and nothing is going to change the results.

You should take a page from Andrew Jackson in 1825. He won the popular vote and had the most votes in the Electoral College, but didn’t get a majority. That thew the election into the House where Speaker, Henry Clay, engineered a win for John Quincy Adams. When Adams appointed Clay Secretary of State, which was a stepping stone to the presidency in those days, Jackson and his supporters cried foul. Their rallying cry became “corrupt bargain!” and that helped take them to victory in 1828.

The election of 2020 is over. It’s best to move on and forget about it except to do what we can to prevent voter fraud in the future. Some states, like Florida and Georgia have done that, and you will note that the Democrats are crying about it. Any politician who opposes voter ID is an advocate of voter fraud.

Anyone who thinks Trump won 2020 can win a million dollars. Texas says so.

So long as they can prove it.

…oh wait. Two years have past and no one has brought up jack sh^t?

How is that possible?

I’ll tell you how it it possible. GEORGE SOROS!!!

He did thus. He did this with Hugo Chavez and Italian satelites. Why else was there bamboo in some Arizona ballots?



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George Soros is responsible for the deaths of untold numbers of people because of the soft on crime positions of his DAs who turn violent felons lose over and over again, If you want to defend the policies of George Soros, @Patooka, make my day. It will be one more act of far left foolishness.

You claim to care about people, and yet George Soros does not care about what happens to the victims of the violent criminals Soros supports.

Last time I checked, George Soros put leaves on my driveway. That bastard is in charge of everything.

Rebekah Mercer says so. Now if an every day, typical American woman like Rebekah Mercer says so, it must be obvious. Especially if people like Charles and David Koch think so. Everyday Americans against that filthy Jew George Soros. Who isn’t even a real American! He’s a filthy immigrant!

Watch PragerU! Do your own research!

Keep on making fun of this. You act like a guilty person who makes jokes. If you disagree with George Soros, say so.

Quote him for once instead of making him a bogy man and I might. Because I agree with the following:

“It is an old joke that the stock market has predicted seven of the last two recessions. Markets are often wrong.”

“Markets are constantly in a state of uncertainty and flux and money is made by discounting the obvious and betting on the unexpected.”

And my favourite

“I start from the position that every human endeavor is flawed: if we were to discard everything that is flawed there would be nothing left. We must therefore make the most of what we have; the alternative is to embrace death. The choice is a real one, because death can be embraced in a number of ways; the pursuit of perfection and eternity in all its manifestations is equivalent to choosing the idea of death over the idea of life. If we carry this line of argument to its logical conclusion, the meaning of life consists of the flaws in one’s conceptions and what one does about them. Life can be seen as a fertile fallacy.”

I agree with all of that.

I biggest crime in American history, the effect of which are bringing us to the brink of destruction under the senile usurper, and you would sweep it under the rug? Are you insane?

The red wave will hit, the criminals will be exposed, and Trump will be vindicated.

Anyone who wants to see such an atrocity swept under the rug is no conservative.

When George Soros installs DAs like the ones formerly in San Francisco and the current ones in Chicago, Los Angeles and New York City, what he is doing is evil as hell. Turning violent criminals lose time and time again is not “social reform.” It’s evil at its core, and in minority neighborhoods, it is racism of the worst kind.

I try to deal in political reality. Rehashing the 2020 election results will please many Trump supporters, but it won’t get him votes from the people he needs to win. It’s a political dead end. Rehashing it in the history books is fine. Bringing it up repeatedly serves no political purpose.

Trump needs to concentrate on energy, jobs and the economy.

We are going to deal with a crime, the worst crime in history.

Trump will be vindicated, and the Criminal Leftwing pigs will receive justice.

You see how patooka could not refute one of my 10 points? All he has is snotty childish stupidities to post. We will prevail.

Because they were all crap. If you believe any of that BS to be true, present your case to court.

"We therefore have undertaken an examination of every claim of fraud and miscount put
forward by former President Trump and his advocates, and now put the results of those
investigations before the American people, and especially before fellow conservatives who may
be uncertain about what and whom to believe. Our conclusion is unequivocal: Joe Biden was the
choice of a majority of the Electors, who themselves were the choice of the majority of voters in
their states. Biden’s victory is easily explained by a political landscape that was much different in
2020 than it was when President Trump narrowly won the presidency in 2016. President Trump
waged his campaign for re-election during a devastating worldwide pandemic that caused a
severe downturn in the global economy. This, coupled with an electorate that included a small
but statistically significant number willing to vote for other Republican candidates on the ballot
but not for President Trump, are the reasons his campaign fell short, not a fraudulent election.

Donald Trump and his supporters have failed to present evidence of fraud or inaccurate
results significant enough to invalidate the results of the 2020 Presidential Election. We do not
claim that election administration is perfect. Election fraud is a real thing; there are prosecutions
in almost every election year, and no doubt some election fraud goes undetected. Nor do we
disparage attempts to reduce fraud. States should continue to do what they can do to eliminate
opportunities for election fraud and to punish it when it occurs. But there is absolutely no
evidence of fraud in the 2020 Presidential Election on the magnitude necessary to shift the result
in any state, let alone the nation as a whole. In fact, there was no fraud that changed the outcome
in even a single precinct. It is wrong, and bad for our country, for people to propagate baseless
claims that President Biden’s election was not legitimate."

source. 72 pages explaining why you are wrong.

Brilliant response. Just what one would expect from a Leftist who thrives on fake news.

72 pages of lies.