The Pilgrims Were Thankful They Abandoned Communism


#1

As we celebrate Thanksgiving, we should examine the little known fact that the Pilgrims established a short-lived form of agricultural communism.

The land was owned in common; everyone worked for each other and each received an equal allotment of food no matter how hard they worked. This system quickly failed. The women described the communal chores as a form of slavery, men rapidly lost motivation, and the able-bodied feigned illness to avoid work.

As Governor William Bradford described in Of Plymouth Plantation, “[The] taking away of property, and bringing in community into a common wealth…was found to breed much confusion & discontent, and retard much employment…” The crops dwindled to only providing several kernels of corn per meal**. It was so bleak that some Pilgrims sold themselves as workers to the Indians **for a few cups of food. Others tried to forage for food, but many died of starvation.

After much debate and prayer, Bradford established a free market system by assigning each family a portion of land and giving them rights to what it produced. He was amazed at the results and credited it with creating the bountiful harvest and the reason the Pilgrims were able to celebrate what we think of as the “First Thanksgiving.”

Think of how happy the Pilgrims were to know that they would not face starvation that winter. This is a poignant lesson as some Americans again look at rewarding laziness with welfare and taking from those who work hard and providing it to those who have worked less, or not at all. Let’s be grateful and learn from the Pilgrims, and not repeat their mistake

The Pilgrims Were Thankful They Abandoned Communism - Illinois Review

So once again socialism is being tried even though history has shown us that it does not work. One would think that history through out the world has more than plenty examples of the failing of this.

Right now several nations are going through the pains of trying to work this and it should be obvious has is failing.


#2

Why do you think the Demoncrats hate the Pilgrims and Thanksgiving? The real story behind it all is yet another historical example of their failed ideology.


#3

[quote=“Conservative_Libertarian, post:2, topic:37236”]
Why do you think the Demoncrats hate the Pilgrims and Thanksgiving? The real story behind it all is yet another historical example of their failed ideology.
[/quote]True enough


#4

That’s the Thanksgiving story that needs to be taught in our elementary schools. What % learn it do you think?


#5

What?


#6

If any of you guys wanna read up on it, it’s right here: Christian communism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


#7

[quote=“AmericanNationalist76, post:6, topic:37236”]
If any of you guys wanna read up on it, it’s right here: Christian communism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
[/quote]I am sorry but this is a crock. . If one understands Christians the bible tells one to stand up for themselves. Caring for others does not mean having them rely on you for the rest of their lifes.

Were the Early Christians Communists? | Catholic Perspective | TFP Home


#8

I was not focusing on the religious factor in the pilgrim’s choice of communism. Sorry if it seemed like I was. It’s just the only Wikipedia article on the Plymouth Colony’s communist origins.


#9

My high school US History teacher went into such details about the Pilgrim society. I do remember that he did but, I also remember that at age 16 I really didn’t care (33 years ago). However, it was a data point against communism.


#10

I never heard it until a few years ago - less than 10, I think.


#11

My high school US History teacher was openly Conservative. He didn’t expect people to believe as he did but, his lessons were good at showing such facts.


#12

Most of my pre-college teachers were conservative, but I never heard about their practice of communism until recently. Maybe people were ashamed to admit that it was once practiced by people we admired so much.


#13

Most people used to look at small groups that operated as a commune separate from the political ideology.


#14

That is probably the difference. Even the “Jesus people” who started out living as a commune, eventually discarded that system. That’s why you never hear about them any more. They are still around. If you have ever heard of a church called “Calvary Chapel,” that’s what became of them. My niece and her husband are missionaries through a branch of Calvary Chapel, called “Far Reaching Ministries.” (I think that’s it, I could look it up, since I help support them, I have lots of their literature). Anyway, they seem to be quite sound theologically. They claim to be a balance between Calvinism and Arminianism, but from what I read, they seem to be no different from Armininism.