There Really Was A Liberal Media Bubble


#1

There Really Was A Liberal Media Bubble
By Nate Silver
Filed under The Real Story Of 2016
Published Mar. 10, 2017

The U.S. presidential election, as I’ve argued, was something of a similar case. No, the polls didn’t show a toss-up, as they had in Brexit. But the reporting was much more certain of Clinton’s chances than it should have been based on the polls. Much of The New York Times’s coverage, for instance, implied that Clinton’s odds were close to 100 percent. In an article on Oct. 17 — more than three weeks before Election Day — they portrayed the race as being effectively over, the only question being whether Clinton should seek a landslide or instead assist down-ballot Democrats:

This is not to say the election was a toss-up in mid-October, which was one of the high-water marks of the campaign for Clinton. But while a Trump win was unlikely, it should hardly have been unthinkable. And yet the Times, famous for its “to be sure” equivocations, wasn’t even contemplating the possibility of a Trump victory.

So did journalists in Washington and London make the apocryphal Pauline Kael mistake, refusing to believe that Trump or Brexit could win because nobody they knew was voting for them? That’s not quite what Trende was arguing. Instead, it’s that political experts aren’t a very diverse group and tend to place a lot of faith in the opinions of other experts and other members of the political establishment. Once a consensus view is established, it tends to reinforce itself until and unless there’s very compelling evidence for the contrary position. Social media, especially Twitter, can amplify the groupthink further. It can be an echo chamber.

I suppose post-mortems of 2016 are going to be common fare until at least summer 2018, if not fall 2019. This article is part of a series, the only one I’ve read so far. It looks at some of the underlying roots of MSM groupthink and considers some of the issues in trying to correct them.

IMO, one of the biggest root systems is the lack of viewpoint diversity. It’s partly choices of, through the decades, 10s of millions of conservatives. It’s also partly due to liberals having seen to it that conservatives are frozen out or blocked from entering. And these two factors are pretty much self-reinforcing, and the latter self-perpetuating.


#2

As far as I can see, looking at it extensively after the fact; there is tunnel vision in places like New York and California. Experiences and understanding of America far removed from Middle America, the Rustbelt and other places.

The victory by Trump in itself was extensively. 33 states to 17, thousands of more voting districts, and an even broader dominance of the GOP up and down the ticket. Furthermore, the Democratic party has become far less welcoming of alternative ideas and beliefs, as shown when they rigged the primary against Bernie. We all saw it, and so did the rest of the country. Democracy thrives on fairness and the Will of the People, regardless of what that fairness produces. For this alone, the Democrats are in a bad spot for the foreseeable future.


#3

Not tunnel vision. But after the Obama socialist movement during his later years in office, the socialist faction really believed that their movement was on track and through the George Soros funding of this movement the corrupted media truly believed and pushed the socialist agenda. None recognized the heart of America knew what was going on and responded accordingly. I pay scant attention to media revisionists.


#4

Blinded by arrogance. Trump and his supporters could not possibly win, they were less than, nothing but crude and stupid white people, hillbillies, rednecks, uneducated, work with their hands not their minds because they were strong of back not of mind, wear a steel boot instead of Ferragamo. Shop at Wal Mart and eat BBQ and of course to stupid to vote…

"Cost Of Livin’"
RONNIE DUNN

Everythin’ to know about me
Is written on this page
A number you can reach me
My social and my age

Yes, I served in the army
It’s where I learned to shoot
Eighteen months in the desert
Pourin’ sand out of my boots

No, I’ve never been convicted of a crime
I could start this job at any time

I got a strong back, steel toes
Rarely call in sick, a good truck
What I don’t know I catch on real quick
I work weekends, if I have to, nights and holidays

Give you forty and then some
Whatever it takes
Three dollars and change at the pump
Cost of livin’s high and goin’ up

I put Robert down as a reference
He’s known me all my life
We attend the same church
He introduced me to my wife

Gave my last job everythin’
Before it headed south
Took the shoes off of my children’s feet
The food out of their mouths

Yesterday my folks offered to help
But they’re barely gettin’ by themselves

I got a strong back, steel toes
I rarely call in sick, a good truck
What I don’t know I catch on real quick
I work weekends, if I have to, nights and holidays

Give you forty and then some
Whatever it takes
Three dollars and change at the pump
Cost of livin’s high and goin’ up

I’m sure a hundred others have applied
Rumor has it you’re only takin’ five

I got a strong back, steel toes
I’m handy with a wrench
There’s nothin’ I can’t drive
Nothin’ I can’t fix

I work sunup to sundown
Ain’t too proud to sweep the floors
Bank has started callin’
And the wolves are at my door

Three dollars and change at the pump
Cost of livin’s high and goin’ up


#5

The left and the right are both currently existing in alternate reality bubbles that have very little to do with concern or respect for truth. The election before, the entire conservative media establishment was shouting from the rafters that Romney was going to win in one of the biggest landslides in American history. The left of course became all smug after that, and now have to face that they, too, exist in an information bubble built up not out of truth or facts, but out of whatever narratives flatter and reinforce their partisan worldview.

This is why I believe that growing the moderate center is the only real hope for the country at this point. The left and the right are both going off the deep-end, and becoming more and more insane. I actually mean “insane,” also, and I don’t think that word is hyperbolic in this context.


#6

If believing in the Constitution, what it says and what it meant when it was written makes me seem to be “living in a bubble” void of “truth” then color me “bubble boy.” I’m not ashamed of it. In fact, I REVEL in it. If you want to live in the mushy middle with no real convictions, be our guest.