Trump Calls For Return To ‘Big Tent’ GOP


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Donald Trump ended weeks of acrimony and widespread speculation on Friday by endorsing three moderate Republican lawmakers – including House Speaker Paul Ryan – as he spoke to thousands of fans in Ryan’s home state of Wisconsin.
‘In our shared mission to make America great again I support and endorse our Speaker of the House Paul Ryan,’ he said to a chorus of mostly cheers.
Trump called for a return to Ronald Reagan’s vision of a ‘big tent’ Republican Party that includes conservatives, moderates, libertarians and crossover Democrats in its fold.

Trump Calls For Return To ‘Big Tent’ GOP, Endorses McCain And Ayotte, In Addition To Ryan… | Weasel Zippers

It looks like Trump is trying to get the republican party behind him in spite of their willingness to try to scuttle his campaign and elect Hillary.

When you think about it the republicans seems to have deliberately lost the last two presidential elections.


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I’d say he lost me at “big tent,” but then he’d already lost me.


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When you think about it the republicans seems to have deliberately lost the last two presidential elections.
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Deliberately, I don’t think that I would agree with that. But I would wholeheartedly agree that they have continually chosen paths that repeatedly failed. They seem to not know how to drive home an issue effectively. They don’t get the news coverage that the dems get so when they are getting coverage they need to talk to the people in a much more effective way. Dems seem to have better luck getting people to believe lies than republicans do telling the truth.
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Here’s on that bothers me. Repbs need to review their goals & refine them. Make sure that they are prioritized with the most important ones listed first. Then when they get in power (if they ever do again) actually DO THEM. Sadly once they have the power to change things they tend to sit back & bask in the glory that comes with power & not “really” change anything. Think about it. During Bush’s 2 terms did the government get bigger or smaller? Was there a revamp of the welfare system? It just seems like they coast along & never really make any changes that truly effect their goals in a meaningful way.
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It’s not enough to be elected on the “we don’t like they way the left is going platform”. If your elected you need to move at least something to the right.


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I’ll be honest, I was a big old Dem lefty before my conversion to Catholicism a year or so ago, so I’ve missed a lot of what’s happening with Republicans.

When did Paul Ryan become “moderate?” I thought he showed up in the big Tea Party wave and was the guy Romney picked as his “Pence” so he could say “look righties I got this guy that means it’s OK to vote for me, the abortin borin stormin Mormon Mitt Romney!”


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Ryan was a hopeful in the Tea Party wave but showed RINO tendencies early one. His strength for being picked by Romney was not his Tea Party links because Romney hated the Tea Party. Ryan’s strength was budget and related policy. He knew the numbers well and could recite them from memory.

The “Big Tent” was how we got anti-Reagan RINOs running the party instead of actual Conservatives.


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just like Rubio. These guys will use anyone to get elected and then betray those that helped them.


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Doesn’t everyone say they want to have biggest, yoogest, most luxurious tent, just the best, best material, easiest working zipper, electrical hookups it’s even a wifi hotspot so I can read the news in the morning, just magnificent though? Isn’t that just, things a politician says like “God bless America” and “I think children are our future?”

I wouldn’t jump on the guy as a turncoat yet, unless you were already against him I guess.


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Many will probably disagree with this but here goes. The left votes for the left. The right votes for the right. Those that aren’t left or right vote for what they see more than what they hear. In other words to a large extent it’s a popularity contest. Look at Reagan for example. The man could give a speech. He looked relaxed in front of the cameras. He had a quick wit & he could not only turn a barb around but people would laugh when he did it. Popularity contest, if people can relate to you better than they can relate to the other person your probably going to get the most votes from them.
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Now take Romney. The guy looked great on paper. Each year he gives more money to charities than old Bernie (who is a socialist & believes we should all be equal). He was a successful businessman. Nice looking wife & good looking kids. A good looking guy that could give a pretty good speech. Heck on paper he looked like a sure winner. Then you look at his appearance. Always in a suit & looking like he was in a GQ clothing add. Who could relate to him? Basically he looked like how you should look if your rich. And his posture, was it even possible for him to slump or bend? Romney lost that election from day one because “the masses” couldn’t relate to him.
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Now a very UNPOPULAR topic. Repbs need to stop (during elections) driving home political points that will lose them votes or make them look foolish. Believe in God & the bible, that’s great & I’m all for it. But do you really think about women being submissive to their husbands is going to gain you votes with people that aren’t religious? Heck to those that don’t believe in God any statements about the bible will make you look like a nutty bible thumper & guess what? The left will use that to get those middle votes. I’m am NOT saying for you to turn your back on religion. I’m saying that you need to be vague just like the left is so that you don’t cut your own throats. Remember once you get elected you can change things. But being a crusader on any subject (religion or whatever) before being elected my stop you from being elected.


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I know that someone is going to say “But most American’s are religious”. To me the simple truth to that statement is that if it were true & people voted for the most religious person every time, why aren’t they elected & why are other factors so important? Just saying that religion will not get you elected.


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I agree to a certain extent, and that extent is this:

Be as vague as you wish, but do not hide. I’m not sure if that makes sense, but the best politicians could pull it off. You knew where Reagan stood, but he didn’t necessarily beat you over the head with it, whereas Romney was whoever you wanted him to be.

That might be part of Trump’s appeal. I can’t necessarily say you know where he stands, because I’m not convinced he knows where he stands, but whenever he gets there you can bet your bottom dollar Trump at least made the decision for himself as opposed to Rubio who’d respond with “We have to dispel with this notion that I reached this conclusion because a poll said so”


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Remember Scott Brown who was heralded as a conservative from Massachusetts? Once he got elected he went to the left. and still was replaced the next election.


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While Trump suffers from foot in the mouth syndrome he does tell like it is unlike the others which did not even address what was going opn in thjs country and skirting real issues. To clarify why I feel the last two elections were thrown was McCain refused to deal with obama and even worked against his pick for Vice President behind the scenes. McCain puts on the vasade of beig a conservative when it comes to election time and after winning election speaks out agaist them.

Romney also did not attack obama on the issues nor drove any points across and it was well known he actually supported obama and his ideas as for healthcare which was passed without congress reading it and was a springboard to throw in a lot of stuff in to increase taxes and costs. Well we can see how well that worked. The affordable healthcare law also made inways to take more privacy away from citizens.


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Was Scott Brown the guy who got Elizabeth Warren elected because people were just so outraged that someone questioned someone’s heritage who doesn’t even know whether or not it’s true?

By the way those same BernieBros that elected her did the tomahawk chop at her during her DNC speech for endorsing Hillary. The racially sensitive left indeed.


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brown got replaced because he betrayed the people that sent him there to stop Obama. Nobody cares about Fauxcahontas’ alleged sensitive feelings. She’s been proven a liar also.


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Brown is the typical, east-coast, liberal “Republican”–the difference between them and a progressive Democrat is undetectable. Warren got a Harvard teaching job solely because she claimed Cherokee “heritage” on the sole basis that “somebody told me that my great, great grandmother may have been part Native American” while a careful genealogical search showed that to be false…which SHE could have discovered easily and with just a bit of effort. My next question has always been, “Why does Harvard have a ‘set-aside’ teaching position solely for a Native American?” How utterly stupid.


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Yes he was.


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[quote=“Pappadave, post:15, topic:49254”]
Brown is the typical, east-coast, liberal “Republican”–the difference between them and a progressive Democrat is undetectable. Warren got a Harvard teaching job solely because she claimed Cherokee “heritage” on the sole basis that “somebody told me that my great, great grandmother may have been part Native American” while a careful genealogical search showed that to be false…which SHE could have discovered easily and with just a bit of effort. My next question has always been, “Why does Harvard have a ‘set-aside’ teaching position solely for a Native American?” How utterly stupid.
[/quote]Brown sounds like the republicans we have in Illinois. The goal is power and not to care for the people.


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THAT attitude is held by republicans all over the country. Time to push them out of office. If Trump doesn’t make the WH, these guys are the next to go. WIth Hillary as president, it won’t matter anyway…we are done.


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I think the “bottom line” on the subject is as follows:

You don’t get to legislate or change the self-destructive trajectory we are on unless you win elections.

You don’t win elections by gratuitously alienating those who could help you achieve office.

Being an idiot is not a virtue.

Over the past 2 weeks, while Trump has been busy damaging his chances and our chances to defeat Hillary Clinton, I have seen his surrogates on FOX and other news outlets fielding a very telling question.

The question: "Why isn’t Trump staying on message; why isn’t he pounding Clinton on the economy, the emails, her record on foreign policy?

I have yet to hear his spokespeople address the question head-on as asked.

So, I’ll answer the question for them.

Trump is a lousy candidate!!

Don’t misunderstand. Trump is generally correct on the issues - that isn’t his problem. His problem is his inability to think before he opens his mouth, his inability to speak clearly, his shallow grasp of the issues, his thin-skinned personalization and sophomoric remarks.


#20

that is an insult to my intelligence and the intelligence of high information voters …who I might add happen to be on the right/formerly right.