Turkish F-16s shoot down Russian fighter jet near Syria border


Turkish F-16s shoot down Russian fighter jet near Syria border | Fox News

We finally are making inroads against ISIS and this happens…emergency meeting of NATO has been called…

Russian President Vladimir Putin said Tuesday that Turkey’s decision to shoot down a Russian warplane near Turkey’s border with Syria is a “stab in the back” and it would have “significant consequences” for its relations with Turkey, as NATO called an emergency meeting over the incident.

Putin said the Russian Sukhoi-24 jet was shot by a missile from a Turkish jet over Syria about just over a half-mile away from the Turkish border, which he described as a “stab in the back by the terrorists’ accomplices.” Putin was meeting with Jordanian King Abdullah II in Sochi. Prior to the meeting, The New York Times said Putin was “speaking slowly and clearly angry.”

Rebels said they fired at the two parachuting pilots as they descended, and that one had died. A rebel spokesman said they would consider releasing the body in exchange for prisoners held by Syria. The fate of the second pilot was not immediately known.


And Obama’s Friendly Isis folks in Syria have shot down a rescue helo looking for the pilot.


Turkey is nothing but a liability for NATO.


My guess would be that Turkey has been eagerly searching for an opportunity to create an incident and hopefully shake Obama from his ideological cocoon. Good luck with that!


My thoughts are Russia will counter with a play of his own against the Turks at which point NATO, and by NATO I mean America, will move troops into the region at which point Russia will back away(having satisfied public outrage with a trike back) and we will look even weaker not having defended a NATO nation. Obama Foreign Policy 101.


My limited experience with the Turks is that they are NOT a people to play around with. Russian aircraft have been violating their airspace for months now and ignoring instructions from the ground to leave it. We had a reinforced Turkish rifle company attached to my unit when I was in Korea in the early 60’s. The Turks were well-known to be merciless and prone to treat those who “insult” them harshly. For example, they caught a thief (about 17 years old) trying to steal one of their foot-lockers shortly after the 13th Company arrived in-country. They shoved a rifle cleaning rod in one ear and out the other and hung the body on their front gate. The division chaplain finally went up there and asked their CO (a Major Bulati) to allow the boy’s parents to have the body–at which point, Maj Bulati pulled his sword and cut the body from the head and left the head there! When I left in 1963, it was still there after nearly a year. Needless to say, the Turks didn’t have any more problems with theft.


Surely your not suggesting we start WW3 over this? We had just this discussion a couple of days ago on here, but the hypothetical was an American plane. Many thousands of lives shouldn’t be wagered due to one very unfortunate incident.

Once more details come out I suppose we can have a clearer explanation. I have read on some places Russian planes were pushing the line often, also, Turkey provided a warning to the pilots. The aftermath after the pilots ejected though can’t be ignored, it might create a bad situation for these rebels…


I believe it’s article 5 of the NATO treaty that answers your question.


I think you should reread my post. I said we would move troops into the region. I said nothing about attacking Russia. If Russia seeks to attack Turkey it will happen soon before we decide to move troops into the region. Turkey shot down the plane knowing full we that America would rush to their side because of the treaty. Treaties with nations such as this will be our undoing.


Assad will outlast zero (Obama)


It doesn’t matter what we should do, what we will do is…nothing. Obama will continue his minimalist charade war against ISIS to (try to) placate American public opinion. His true goal is a stable region from the Mediterranean to the Persian Gulf controlled in fact if not in name by Iran. The next US president will be just in time to either throw up his/her hands in despair or engage in a massive Middle East arms race buildup for the Shia-Sunni armageddon. Obama can golf to his heart’s content and emhasize how hard he tried to fix George Bush’s fiasco. Obama’s shortcoming is not that he does too little, it is that he is enabling the wrong side to win.


Called it. Turkey’s pissed at nations ignoring what they wanted.


[quote=“Alaska_Slim, post:12, topic:47806”]
Called it. Turkey’s pissed at nations ignoring what they wanted.
[/quote]Whatever…we should concern ourselves with what Turkey wants?


Turkey is sustaining ISIS though their bombardment of the Kurds. The nation has been trending toward an increasingly radical Islamist direction as well. I would kick them out of NATO and let them deal with Russia’s wrath.

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Turkey will not allow our next Administration stage troops or project air power from it in the war next year …


Not just that–they’re escorting fighters across their border into Kurdish held territory. They throw in weapons and allow their own citizens to join them.


I’d say that’s wrong, they intentionally negotiated this “deal” where we use their air bases so that we would be too committed in the conflict to back off, yet too unorganized on the ground to do anything else but go along with their plans.

They want us to support their allies (Ahrar al-Sham, al-Nusra), while denying us any proxy of our own. Whether that proxy be “moderate” rebels, or the Kurds.