UBI..its coming in 2020


#1

Socialism is alive and very well. Xuckerberg appears to be on the move to run for POTUS in 2020 and he has a large stable of multi-billionaires on his side. We have a new emerging uber wealthy class. Unlike the folks I grew up with who laid it ALL on the line to start and build a business, these folks had nothing to lose but worse, they never worked hard, they do not know blood, sweat and tears.

Zuckerberg will use the UBI as a KEY plank in his run and you can just imagine how many votes he will get for free money or Welfare for everyone…

If this lunacy of an idea worked, the Europe would lead the world in business development with the US not far behind. We almost have UBI now with about 94 Million Americas living off the dole of the govt and taxpayer, yet have many of them are now out starting a business (other than selling drugs)…

Universal Basic Income: Mark Zuckerberg wants to give you free money for being alive

Read more at: https://inews.co.uk/essentials/news/technology/universal-basic-income-mark-zuckerberg-wants-give-free-money-alive/

Universal Basic Income:
Mark Zuckerberg wants to give you free money for being alive Mark Zuckerberg has called for the exploration of universal basic income in the US (Photo: Getty) Rhiannon Williams 5 hoursFriday May 26th 2017 Mark Zuckerberg has suggested paying people a basic income regardless of skills or experience under the universal basic income system. The Facebook co-founder called for consideration of the economic theory during a speech made at his former university, Harvard. “Every generation expands its definition of equality. Now it’s time for our generation to define a new social contract,” Zuckerberg said. “We should have a society that measures progress not by economic metrics like GDP but by how many of us have a role we find meaningful. We should explore ideas like universal basic income to make sure everyone has a cushion to try new ideas.”

Entrepreneurs who have endorsed universal basic income - Business Insider

8 high-profile entrepreneurs who have endorsed universal basic incomeIt might seem odd for tech entrepreneurs to take an interest in income distribution policy. But an increasing number of high-profile Silicon Valley executives are endorsing universal basic income (UBI), a system in which everyone receives a standard amount of money just for being alive.
On the one hand, it’s a way to reduce poverty, but tech folks also see it as a way to solve the growing problem of robot automation. That issue hits close to home for many of them, because they are the ones largely driving this robot revolution.
Here are some of the highest-profile entrepreneurs who have endorsed UBI.


#2

> Universal Basic Income:
> Mark Zuckerberg wants to give you free money for being alive Mark Zuckerberg has called for the exploration of universal basic income in the US (Photo: Getty) Rhiannon Williams 5 hoursFriday May 26th 2017 Mark Zuckerberg has suggested paying people a basic income regardless of skills or experience under the universal basic income system. The Facebook co-founder called for consideration of the economic theory during a speech made at his former university, Harvard. “Every generation expands its definition of equality. Now it’s time for our generation to define a new social contract,” Zuckerberg said. “We should have a society that measures progress not by economic metrics like GDP but by how many of us have a role we find meaningful. We should explore ideas like universal basic income to make sure everyone has a cushion to try new ideas.”

Somebody needs to tell this moron that under his “UBI, Pie-in-the-sky idea” the SAME people now on the dole will REMAIN on the dole and that “cushion” will become their bed. They will no more “try new ideas” than build a ladder to the moon. Why SHOULD they?


#3

I’m ALL for it as long as he wants to use his BILLIONS to fund them since he is the 4th richest man in the world.


#4

If sixty million people, ages 25 to 64 are out of work (for argument’s sake) and zuck wants to give everyone of them … a living wage, I see two or three problems!

Let’s just take $30,000 as a hypothetical starting place.

One problem is: A living wage in New York is not the same as a living wage in, let’s say Middle Tennessee!

That leads to the next problem: sixty million x thirty thousand= ONE TRILLION eight hundred thousand a year!

And finally, where will this living wage come from when a majority of folks realize that it is easier (and much more fun) to sit on your @ss and collect almost $600.00 a week for … sitting on your @ss?

The government produces nothing and must get this new ‘distributive wealth’ from somewhere?

If no one is working or producing … are the present super wealthy going to support us all?
For how long?

Won’t they eventually be joining the rest of us for a handout?

Zuckerberg’s money wouldn’t get us through the first week!


#5

Progressives, such as Zuckerberg and Bill Gates and Maxine Waters, et al, measure the success of government, indeed a society, in terms of how many additional people said government can place on the public dole utilizing taxpayer’s money/labor gathered for that purpose by way of government confiscation. Of course, what these fools seem to miss is that in such a Progressive utopia only a sucker would work and the individual would become increasingly subservient to an ever more powerful central government.

By contrast, Trump’s proposed budget, as expertly explained last week by Secretary Mulvaney, focuses not so much on the perceived needs/wants of the recipient of taxpayer funded government assistance, but on the need of the government to hold in highest esteem the labor of the taxpayer who must be ASKED to agree to foot the bill for said assistance.

In my view, Mulvaney’s approach is the correct approach and provides the most stark contrast I know regarding the fiscal/social approach to governance between the Right and Left.

Zuckerberg can use the intellectual-sounding language of the “social contract” to soften/cloak his confiscatory, centralized government, individual dependency on the state rhetoric all he wants, but he won’t impress me.

Moral to the story: If you are under 30 and worth $50 billion the day to day, common realities of the world - the reality of making a house note, putting food on the table, providing clothing and transportation and trying to financially survive while earning $100K and paying roughly 50% of what you earn in federal, state and local taxes and fees - are probably realities which you know little about and under-appreciate as you have not had to confront them on a daily basis.

This country became great not by guaranteeing the impossible - financial equality. It became great by striving to make good on the Constitutional promise of offering equality of OPPORTUNITY. IMHO.


#6

It has been want and need that has motivated every forward advancement that I have experienced, nothing but my investment income grows when things are static.

Universal income will create universal lethargy, it is the pressured mind (who knows that the consequences of failure will be dire) that makes the important stuff happen; the poor need MAJOR attitude changes and these realignments will not occur as long as the government parachute is softly carrying the ignorant to their demise.

And our society is being dragged into the same abyss because we are trying to pull those parachutes back up.


#7

You are on target, RET. The message by the LEFT sounds so good to so many people. Unfortunately, the truth is the message is akin to enticing a child into the back of a van by offering free candy.


#8

This is what we get when Republicans finally come out of the closet and admit they’re not capitalists and that they support bloated government and bureaucracies. The left has to out-left the right. What once would have been laughed out of the discussion as an ignorant absurdity is now the discussion.

I do have to admit I gave this idea a thought as an alternative to the existing welfare state, a new kind of thing where people would have take responsibility and pay the right things. As an alternative to food stamps and other forms of welfare, it holds a variety of incentives for recipients to use it more wisely. Unfortunately, no matter how you slice it, it’s simply unaffordable. I tossed that idea on my personal scrap heap rather quickly. Unlike me and unfortunately for all of us, unaffordability won’t stop these progressive morons.