Vermont Legislature designates October 16th as "John Brown Day"

Recently the state legislature in Vermont, at the request of a Woodstock High School teacher, declared October 16th to be John Brown Day. That is the anniversary of John Brown’s raid on the federal arsenal at Harper’s Ferry, Virginia, now West Virginia.

Here is a partial text of article I wrote for my local coin club:

On October 16, 1859 John Brown led a raid on the Harpers Ferry, Virginia Arsenal. Brown was a radical abolitionist who believed that violent acts were required to end slavery. His goal was to take over the arsenal and hold it until runaway slaves and other supporters came to the aid of his band of men. He also took hostages whom he would exchange for “any stout Negro.” He planned to arm his supporters with the rifles he captured from the armory and flee to the hills of Virginia. From there his guerilla force would establish a provisional government under a constitution that he had written and conduct raids against slaveholders. Brown thought that if he could conquer Virginia, the slaveholding South would collapse.

At first Brown and his men succeeded in capturing three buildings in Arsenal Square. Brown thought that the local slave population would flock to his cause, but the support he counted upon never materialized. Instead militiamen from the area surrounded his position and forced Brown and his forces to retreat to the firehouse. Brown and his men were trapped.

In the mean time Brown had allowed a Baltimore and Ohio express train safe passage though the town. Once the train reached the next station, the conductor wired Washington officials about the situation in Harpers Ferry. Fearing a wider insurrection, president James Buchanan ordered U.S. Marines, under the command of Colonel Robert E. Lee to end the siege. Lee and his forces, with the aid of his lieutenant, J.E.B. Stuart, arrived on scene just before midnight on October 17. Brown attempted to bargain with Lee, but the following day Lee ordered his men to batter down the door of the engine, and Brown was forced to surrender.

Ten of Brown’s men were killed including two of his sons. Brown was severely injured, but he lived to stand trial for treason. Brown’s conviction was a foregone conclusion, and he was hanged on December 2, 1859. At the time of his execution, Brown handed a note to a supporter which read that the country would be bathed in blood for its sins over the issue of slavery.

The reactions to Brown’s actions and execution were mixed. In the South he was condemned as a dangerous traitor. In the North some intellectuals, such as Ralph Waldo Emerson, hailed Brown as a hero. Author Nathanial Hawthorn, best known for the classic novel, The Scarlet Letter, said that he deserved to be hanged. Abraham Lincoln summed up the opinion of many when he stated that slavery was wrong, but that it could only be ended by lawful means and not by violence.

My take on John Brown was that he had the right cause, but the wrong methods. The man was a 19th century terrorist. I was surprised to note in an article appearing in “The Political Bandwagon” that they thought that a celebration of an end to slavery would be more appropriate that celebrating John Brown. Most of the membership of the American Political Collectors Club (APIC) are very liberal, so this was out of character.

At any rate here is a medalet that John Brown’s supporters issued just after he was hung for treason in December 1859. This is rather scarce piece, especially in brass, which is the composition of this piece.

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Appreciate the history story, honestly.

Have noted your button collecting. Curious . . . where do you get these things?

Also, how many other collectors are there?

I belong to the American Political Items Collectors Club, A.K.A. APIC. They have shows and conventions around the country, but mostly in the Northeast. There are also on-line dealers who sell items via auctions and private sales. These guys deal mostly in buttons, which pretty much started in 1896. They get some of the older material, but they don’t know how to grade it and only have a general idea what it’s worth. Most APIC people are liberal Democrats.

The 19th century tokens and medalets I show were mostly bought from coin dealer type people. There are dealers who specialize in tokens and medals. Most coin dealers don’t know much about these pieces. Usually they over price them. Although there are some George Washington pieces, American political tokens mostly got started with Andrew Jackson’s 1824 presidential campaign.

I have been a coin collector for over 50 years, and was a dealer for over 10 years. I have had an interest in history since I was in the 5th grade.

I used to collect coins…primarily those with a high percentage of silver content so if the numismatic value isn’t what I thought it was, the silver value still lends the item SOME monetary value. I have about 50 pounds of various coins in my safety deposit box.

In my opinion, although Brown’s act was rash, and tactically unwise for many reasons, he should be honored as a great American hero.

And he was right in essence. Although legal, non-violent methods are the best way to press for social change when those avenues are open, the fact was that it would take great violence – the Civil War – to destroy slavery. The slavocracy was not about to give up peacefully. All it took was the election of a great Republican, who did everything he could to keep these people in the Union, to set them off.

Great American hero? Yea, he was great unless you were in the wrong place at the wrong time, like the free, African-American baggage handler who was the first person his men killed during his “raid.” He was a violent, insane terrorist, not an American hero.

As I said before, right cause, wrong methods.

Any idea why that is so?


  • A number of them are teachers or college professors
  • A lot of them are political activists who work in campaigns. None of those people are Republicans.
  • A few of them are officials in labor unions.
  • A number of them have Ivy League educations. The funny thing is I’ve participated in two of their political trivia contests and won them both. My alma maters are the University of Delaware and Rutgers.
  • There is or was a Republican sub group within the organization, but the attendees at the one meeting I attended were all over 70.
  • Some of them are current or former government employees or minor state office holders. The only person I knew in that group, who was not a Democrat, was the late Earl Dodge who a presidential candidate for the Prohibition Party.

There are a few Republicans and moderates in the group, but by in large it mostly militant liberal Democrats.

Hmmm… how many innocent people have been in the wrong place at the wrong time in just wars? It’s

He was a great man, and deserves a place of honor among those who have struggled for human liberation. “Violent”? You bet … hey, it’s a violent country. Slavery was violence on a massive scale. “Insane”? For many years, that was the standard view in history texts. In the last few decades, that view has shifted.

But what we see in the history books is just response to political pressure, not really objective scholarship.

So … is there any reason, other than his extreme methods, to call him ‘insane’? I don’t know of any.

Perhaps we can agree on this: then as now, violence is not the right way to deal with Democrats, unless they start it first.

Not really on topic, but my son graduated from Rutgers Law School (got his undergraduate degree from Villanova.)

He’s 50 now, so I think he matriculated at Rutgers over 25 years ago.

I earned an MBA from Rutgers in the late 1970s. It did open some doors for me, and was well worth the year + it took to get it.

We shall agree to disagree.

John Brown hacked five or six unarmed pro-slavery men to death with broad swords while he was in Kansas. He put them to death based upon a rumor he had heard about them, nothing more.

His plans after Harper’s Ferry were to go into the hills of Virginia with a band of escaped slaves. He had a constitution written for his “new nation.” Their actions would be to stage raids on the plantations or whatever other targets he chose. The former slaves were to be armed first with pikes, a long spear with a knife attached, and later with the guns that he planned to take from the arsenal. The bottom line - John Brown was ready to come down from the mountains and kill people that he decided didn’t deserve to live. You can’t put up with that in a civil society.

Lincoln summed it up best. He stated that while slavery was wrong, that it should be ended by lawful means, not by violence.

So far as the slavery issue is concerned, Abraham Lincoln was a great man. Frederick Douglas was a great man. The people who were involved in the Underground Railroad, including Harriet Tubman, were great people. John Brown was a blood-thirsty fanatic.

Interestingly, I was just reading about ‘Bleeding Kansas’, and some of the horrific events there – on both sides.

However … as Barry Goldwater famously said, “Extremism in the defence of Liberty is no Vice.” But I agree with you — we should follow the advice of that other wise Republican you quote, and not treat Democrats that way no matter how horrible they’re being.

Martin Luther King used non violence, which was highly effective and made KKK look bad. We should follow the same advice with the Democrats and their violent allies in ANTIFA and rabble rousers, like Maxine Waters. Sadly it seems as the American voters don’t care, especially those in swing districts in the House races.

I agree completely (three months late).
There is a fine line to tread … on the one hand, everyone has the right to self-defense.
On the other, having a right, and using it, are two different matters. In the use of rights, like everything else, we have to exercise our judgement.

Martin Luther King and the Blacks marching in the street had the right to defend themselves from white violence … they could have packed .38s and taken out a bunch of crackers … but they didn’t. Very wise – most Americans, even those who knew little about Blacks and the South and probably didn’t really care very much, do believe in justice and fairness. They were won over by the spectacle of people demonstrating for their rights, and being attacked. So Blacks, by refraining from immediate violence, eventually got the much more powerful organized violence of the state on their side.

But … that didn’t mean they should have been, or were. non-violent under any and all circumstances. Google on the ‘Deacons for Defense and Justice’.

So it is with American patriots, and violent scum like anti-Fa. If they throw a brick, or a Coca-Cola can filled with cement (one of their favorite tricks) into a group of patriots, that’s potentially lethal violence. The patriots have the right, in my opinion, to throw back something copper-jacketed at 300 meters per second, aiming for center-mass.

But for the time being, they shouldn’t. Most Americans, including people who normally vote Democratic, will not like the idea of grandmothers carrying the American flag being assaulted by young thugs wearing masks. This will work in our favor. Give them rope, let them hang themselves.

Of course, things may change.