Vindication For Cruz


If Cruz sticks to his area of knowledge, he will do well. Trump, in my opinion, is pretty much an empty shirt. As someone here just said , he makes promises but there is absolutely NO substance to his rhetoric. That being said, we also have to elect responsive congressmen also or nobody gets anything done. The GOP elite are running scared and will attempt to pick off these candidates one by one starting with Trump and Cruz. I would almost bet Jeb Bush will be really pushed by the GOP and rather forcefully.
Now what is really needed by all the remaining candidates is that show of actual leadership which, up to now, I am NOT seeing. Reagan had it and Clinton (much to my chagrin) had it, but I am not seeing it with these folks. Someone who can inspire the people around him to go that extra mile. At this point I wouldn’t mind seeing the team of Cruz and Fiorina against Sanders. I truly doubt Hillary will last, she is in serious trouble and her constituents are quickly realizing she is trouble.


Not sure exactly what you mean by “substance”. He has made it quite clear what he intends to do about the border, the military, illegal immigrants, terrorists etc. Are you saying that it is just rehtoric and he wont follow through?


By doing what he has always done, making deals and creating an empire, or in this case REcreating an empire…

The difference will be that before, he made deals that benefitted his company, but as president the Nation will be his “company” and his deals will benefit the Nation.

Who remembers MASH? Who would you have wanted as your doctor, the snotty Harvard Major Winchester, or the rude loud mouthed Hawkeye? I don’t care if Cruz can recite the Constitution in Latin. Anybody who can build an empire in New York with all the ungodly hurdles that entails can straighten out our mess.


So this is what Ron Paul supporters are like…


Watch the recent interview he had with O’Reilly. In it Bill tells him that for him to round up 12 million illegals they will have to be placed in front of a judge as they have rights. He stated they now have constitutional rights as they are on American soil. Trump remained defiant, but unlike in the past, he at least illustrated some credence for the fact that this will be more difficult than he presents it, though he did disagree with O’Reilly. O’Reilly reminded him of how Obama had his climate change plans shot down by the Supreme Court regarding coal factories. Trump almost seemed sombre about these basic facts (might not have wanted to look as uninformed as he is). This is the beauty of a check and balance system, America avoids dictatorships.

Trump is not my choice, he is not a Conservative, he is more of a Democrat than a Republican as far as I am concerned, especially his fiscal ideals. I will grant him this though, even as I am not a fan of him as a politician, he has become much more refined during this process. Maybe this is because of his win in NH and he feels less pressure and/or relaxed, I don’t know. His bluster is less evident, he listens a bit more in interviews rather than shouting down the interviewers. He MIGHT even be more confident in himself, whereas before he may have had his own doubts regardless of what he said. He even put the kibosh on a negative ad against Cruz! Completely out of the norm for him.

I still think Trump would lose to Hillary, probably doesn’t beat Sanders, but he is the favourite to be the GOP nominee whether many of us like it or not. If Rubio wins the nomination I think the chances of a GOP president are north of 60%, anyone else and Hillary is a favourite, in some instances possibly a big favourite.

One final note, Trump and Sanders share one characteristic, they both over promise, have little concept of how it will be delivered if at all possible. The “eyes are bigger than my belly” syndrome.


Actually, all I’ve heard out of Trump is vague, very unspecific promises about what he will “do” about the border, military, illegals, terrorists, etc. Not a single thing SPECIFICALLY. ANYONE can promise to “build a wall and make Mexico pay for it”, but just HOW does he propose to DO that? (Nobody knows…not even Trump.) And, the list goes on and on.

SOTU Address: 2019

You’ve had two reasoned replies to your quote: “I keep hearing Trump supporters say Trump will get things done. How?” and this is the best you can come up with?

PS I have never supported Ron Paul or Rand Paul PERIOD


The border can be secured and illegals deported with existing law. I have addressed one strategy he might use to push legislation, when required, through a hostile Congress. Do any of the other candidates who promise they will eliminate Obamacare or the IRS give the “nuts and bolts” details on how they will get this on their desk to sign? Trump gets things done, Rubio and Cruz have made speeches, Kasich and Bush might as well be Democrats. Who’s left?


So blackmailing(which honestly I would love for that situation to happen) and EMPIRE BUILDING!!! are what I got from those reasoned responses. One, blackmailing wouldn’t work cause Congress could just surn around and investigate all the shady crap Trump has do you you response it null and void. As for TerryCA…Trump could bulldoze his/her house and murder their family and he would still get his/her vote.

Don’t get me wrong there are some things i do not like about Cruz but Trump, imo is a joke.


The “How” question is fake, and askers know it. That’s like asking a great basebal player, so exactly how are you going to win? LOL. You just do your thing and play and win. Baseball players play ball. Trump plays the economy and busienss. He just does it.


I would hardly equate faithfully enforcing the laws of the United States as blackmail. My strategy would work but like I said in my post, Trump probably has better ones. As for Congress going after him, it will never come to that; he has the whole alphabet soup of federal thugs who could make Mother Theresa’s life a nightmare.


PURE BS. There has to be a functioning plan and any who becomes president has to work with Congress or be like Obama and bypass the Constitution. Trump only echoes the American rage with no specifics. Deal making is negotiation and negotiation is losing more and more freedoms and rights. America is TIRED of having rights negotiated away.


Trump wants single payer, that is Socialized medicine, Trump says that anyone who opposes that just wants the poor to get sick and die.

Cruz did NOT “lie” about Trumps opinion on healthcare, Trump has made no secret about his desire to fully Socialize the healthcare industry in the United States.

It does not matter how many technicalities you try to apply, Cruz accurately and honestly summarized Trumps position on healthcare, he most certainly did not lie or in any way deceive; if you are fine with Socialized medicine then that is your business but Cruz does not become a liar because you don’t like a particular truth.


From the 2015 interview with 60 Minutes

Donald Trump: I am going to take care of everybody. I don’t care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of now.

Scott Pelley: The uninsured person is going to be taken care of. How? How?

Donald Trump: They’re going to be taken care of. I would make a deal with existing hospitals to take care of people. And, you know what, if this is probably–

Scott Pelley: Make a deal? Who pays for it?

Donald Trump: —**the government’s gonna pay for it. **But we’re going to save so much money on the other side. But for the most it’s going to be a private plan and people are going to be able to go out and negotiate great plans with lots of different competition with lots of competitors with great companies and they can have their doctors, they can have plans, they can have everything.

There is more here on how he will tax the rich to pay for it as well.

Trump Pushes Single Payer Healthcare, Tax Increase on Wealthy - Breitbart


If they supported Rand then they hold very dangerous opinions on National Security, I do not want their votes for any candidate that I support because I don’t want them to have any influence at all on any candidate that is not a blithering idiot.

I would be just fine if all the intentionally naive voters went to Sanders or anywhere really, as long as they stay away from the adult table


Exactly, to get anything done requires a mandate and to get a mandate a candidate must be very specific about what he wants to do all through the campaign; it must be clear that the voters have chosen a specific set of solutions when they chose the President.

Winning with vague generalities means no mandate, no mandate means no fear of reprisal in Congress, no fear of reprisal in Congress means business as usual.


This is an issue that I as a Canadian can really reflect personal experience on. Knock on wood, I have been fortunate with my health. I have been to a GP once in the last 10 years and I had no interest in seeing him again when he prescribed medicine after our first visit for some migraines I was having.

My wife on the other hand, has had the odd visit and has sometimes had multiple month waits to see a specialist; not for anything life threatening, but she had no choice but to wait. She doesn’t have a choice to pursue another person as she needed the referral from her doctor. She met the specialist once and has to wait 4 more months to see him again. For no other reason than for the doctor to milk the system with “double dipping” as he is paid per visit.

I have heard of and read of stories of people waiting months, almost a year in some cases for a simple test on a suspected cancer, by the time the results were in the lady had no options left as the cancer had spread too far and she passed away. Her daughter cried on the air while sharing her story and it really upset me. It also created some resentment for those who unfairly overload the system with unnecessary or excessive visits for the common cold and the like.

Healthcare is always important to the happiness of a society, but so are options and a system that is sustainable and not a burden to the next generation. In Canada I would like to see a two tier system or even user fees for those who can afford it. There are so many stories of people simply over using the system for issues that for instance don’t require a trip to the ER, but the person goes there as they know it is paid for, or, a system that is so congested with wait times that people are dying or having their health deteriorate while they wait.

Trump has the same ideals as what is currently in place in America, he just wants it named Trumpcare.


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So this is what Ron Paul supporters are like…
[/quote]I don’t get it…

Well, that’s just funny. You’re probably going to have quite a few of them voting with you now, and I suspect few will switch to Sanders, who has got to be the evilest guy in this election (and that’s saying something with blowhard Trump and criminal Billary in this election). Sorry to wreck your day.


Thats not what I said. Read my post correctly. You are pulling a Cruz and putting words in MY mouth now.

For the third time: He “quoted” Trump as saying in the last debate that he wanted socialized healthcare, when in fact those words never crossed Trump’s lips. That a lie. Cruz is a Liar. Period. Proven fact.

<blockquote class=“twitter-tweet” data-lang=“en”><p lang=“en” dir=“ltr”>Cruz speaks peace then sends out vicious, vile, lying letters about Trump. He speaks God then lies about another Christian to win votes.</p>— Bill Mitchell (@mitchellvii) <a href=“”>February 12, 2016</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class=“twitter-tweet” data-lang=“en”><p lang=“en” dir=“ltr”>Ouch, Trump calls Cruz out on his constant LYING. <a href=“”></a></p>— Bill Mitchell (@mitchellvii) <a href=“”>February 12, 2016</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class=“twitter-tweet” data-lang=“en”><p lang=“en” dir=“ltr”>Cruz caught cold in lie after denial of push polls like lies w/ <a href=“”>@RealBenCarson</a>. How can he preach Christian values? <a href=“”></a></p>— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) <a href=“”>February 12, 2016</a></blockquote>
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I know several that will go to Bernie personally.