Why doesn't there seem to be light at the end of a tunnel for America?


#1

I wonder how it’s possible to even have a light at the end of the tunnel anymore for America. I don’t even have a vocabulary to express how horribly I feel about it. No amount of counseling will be enough to let me get over the fact. I’m shaking my fists in the air right now, my parents are complaining, and everything has gotten more horrible in the past 6-8 years.

Please I pray to God, that there is light at the end of the tunnel. I’m very adamant about America being saved and going back to being a great country. And no amount of “It’s God’s will” is going to convince me to feel any better.


#2

God is the light at the end of the tunnel. If you’re looking for a worldly solution, you will be disappointed sooner or later. Look to the things not of this world; it isn’t our home.


#3

Sin wasn’t God’s will. But He’s the God Who makes silk purses out of sow’s ears. That’s about as good a comfort as can be; it’s just a question of accepting it as fact and relying on God through the storm.

Many hideous things going on in the world (some of them to me) drove a wedge between me and God. It took my own mortality jumping up and smacking me in the face to start seeking God in a way that opened the door for Him to seriously speak to me. Sin is like a fog that keeps us from seeing God and what He’s doing. Don’t judge the universe on the basis of your view of the fog. The universe is still out there rain or shine. So is God.


#4

There is no light at the end of the tunnel because someone keeps turning it off.
It’s up to YOU to turn it back on again.


#5

That is just what I was thinking.


#6

One of your problems, Rudoph, is that you keep insisting that there must be a solution that leaves God out of the equation. There isn’t. And no, everything that happens is not His will, but He allows us to make a mess of our own lives if we insist.


#7

Okay. Harsh time again.
Rudolph, just how long are you going to go through life, jaunting in here upon occasion, whining the same old whine?

No wonder your parents are complaining. All this time, people trying patiently to give you direction, and STILL you’ve done NOTHING?!

Get over yourself. (<- Strikes me that you’ve been told that, too, once or twice.)
You don’t want life to get better. All you seek is attention - for all your woes.

PULL UP YOUR BIG BOY PANTS AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT YOUR MISERABLE LIFE!

If I was your parent, I’d have thrown your carcass out the door years ago.


#8

America is only as strong as its people and the one person that you can do something about is YOU. It is easy to rationalize the roadblocks and setbacks in life and explain them by the actions of others: government, voters, parents, employers, whatever. I think about the many people with many more obstacles that I have had who have done so much more with their lives.


#9

Yeah, perhaps I shouldn’t be posting stuff here. I’m so sorry, but I listened to what so many Christians said before, and I’m not convinced that a non physical, non earthly reward after a tough life here will be very better. I feel such guilt, but I just feel that way. Sometimes it’s hard for me to indulge in Christianity.


#10

Then don’t.
If you choose victimhood, you become a victim, full time. Always looking for an offense to be exploited.

  1. Quit listening to others.
  2. Read the Bible. ’
  3. Pray.
    Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
    You seem to think a lot about this. That tells me the Holy Spirit is trying to communicate with your spirit. Quit resisting and start learning. The Scriptures are a “How to…” book for our lives. Everything you need is there.
    Have you ever played the Party Game “Gossip”. One person whispers something into another person’e ear. That person then relays the info to the next ear, and so on. The final person speaks what was communicated to him/her. Then, everyone laughs, because what finished, was not what was started.
    The same is true of religious studies. All belief systems are distorted, in time. Only the Scriptures, properly studied, can give you the Truth.
    Now, it is ALL up to YOU.

#11

2a. Read Shakespeare.
2b. Read Dante’s Divine Comedy.

  1. Pray.
    Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

Then read The Romance of the Three Kingdoms.

“***The empire, long divided, must unite; long united, must divide. Thus it has ever been.***”

Unless you’re old, in which case, read Water Margin.
If you’re young, then don’t read that one; go back to RotTK.


#12

I am trying to help one of our members with a difficult decision about God and his beliefs and don’t need you sticking your nose in to ridicule and show your fundament. Why not just go play with your Legos.


#13

Andrew Klavan recommends the Bible and Shakespeare; stating that both do more than anything else to ground one’s understanding of what they’ll need to understand life.

Bishop Robert Barron states Western spiritual tradition orbits around the Bible and Dante’s Divine Comedy. Take what he says of it here, and hear for yourself how it can be applicable now.

Considering it is the work’s 750th anniversary, it is a very good time to crack it open.

Ergo, Tiny1, I did not mention either off hand. Nor am I ridiculing. Sorry for the confusion.

The last two books I mentioned in a rather more whimsical bearing, but there was intent there as well.

In my experience, messages can sometimes become more clear, when you hear them come from out of left-field. From something that isn’t familiar.

I myself didn’t follow or appreciate Shakespeare, until I saw them rendered in the works of Akira Kurosawa. Through the latter, I came to better understand the former.

The wisdom of the Bible I’d say can equally be better appreciated, when you see cultures quite distant from us reach similiar conclusions about the human condition. In their own way, they tap into the universal truth that the Bible itself embodies.

Romance of the Three Kingdoms is also a germane option, because it gets at what he said he was anxious about; the state of the country.


#14

[quote=“Alaska_Slim, post:13, topic:48311”]
Andrew Klavan recommends the Bible and Shakespeare; stating that both do more than anything else to ground one’s understanding of what they’ll need to understand life.

Bishop Robert Barron states Western spiritual tradition orbits around the Bible and Dante’s Divine Comedy. Take what he says of it here, and hear for yourself how it can be applicable now.

Considering it is the work’s 750th anniversary, it is a very good time to crack it open.

Ergo, Tiny1, I did not mention either off hand. Nor am I ridiculing. Sorry for the confusion.

The last two books I mentioned in a rather more whimsical bearing, but there was intent there as well.

In my experience, messages can sometimes become more clear, when you hear them come from out of left-field. From something that isn’t familiar.

I myself didn’t follow or appreciate Shakespeare, until I saw them rendered in the works of Akira Kurosawa. Through the latter, I came to better understand the former.

The wisdom of the Bible I’d say can equally be better appreciated, when you see cultures quite distant from us reach similiar conclusions about the human condition. In their own way, they tap into the universal truth that the Bible itself embodies.

Romance of the Three Kingdoms is also a germane option, because it gets at what he said he was anxious about; the state of the country.
[/quote]His issue is Christianity. The ONLY authority on Christianity, IMO, is the Holy Bible. The point I was making was to STOP listening to others and start listening to the Bible, and the Spirit of God.
I appreciate many authors. Those authors will not help someone decide if Christianity is where their beliefs are edified. My aim was to get him to forsake what others say, including religious leaders, and read the text for himself, to determine the TRUTH about Christianity.
If you study Biblical History, God did not protect those who turned their backs on Him. Many of us are of the belief that America has turned its collective back on God, and so He is essentially ignoring us. Allowing us to feel life without Him.
All that said, the Bible is not better understood by reading other texts. It is WHERE he needs to look for his answers, not by listening to every distortion of Scripture that comes down the pike. Regardless, your point is to read other texts, which may serve to confuse, rather than clarify. My point is that if he wants the truth about Christianity, he needs to study the only authority on Christianity, the Bible.
I don’t put any stock in preachers, or other religious leaders. Neither did Christ. He warned about False Teachers. He warned about other people’s traditions.
I think we need to do likewise.


#15

The next life will not be non physical or non earthly. It will be the new Earth (as this one was before the fall), and scripture indicates that we will have bodies. I don’t think your problem is Christianity, but what others have badly represented it to be (foremost of whom is Satan).


#16

As he sits, he can’t even see Christianity.

He can’t see the truth that underlies Christians nor the Bible, because that carefully constructed bias of his was targeted to obscures the truth; deconstructing the followers and the book as being irrational, outmoded and hypocritical.

So I took a step back, and offered a non-Christian source that backed the very claim Fantasy Chaser made in his first response here. A parallel source; where his bias would have no ground to take hold, as it does not come from the people or the book he has been instructed for so long to accuse. If he read it, he’d have to listen.

I appreciate many authors. Those authors will not help someone decide if Christianity is where their beliefs are edified.

To the contrary; it did for me.

Dr. Victor Frankl’s book both clarified and cemented the lesson on suffering that the Story of Job began.

Rev. Robert Sirico’s book clarified and reconciled words from the Gospels that were abused by Socialists; to show how they were better expressed through free people and markets.

And it was Charlie Chaplin from his speech in The Great Dictator, where the implication of Luke 17: 21 finally came alive.

Distortion of course is always possible, who or what should be consulted to grasp the essence of Christianity should be something highly discerned. Equally however, I and my faith say that the Bible stands better when it is held up within the fullness of truth, not in isolation.


#17

A thousand thanks!

That simple truth fueled the Protestant Reformation and ultimately resulted in this Nation rising from the debris of decadence that it was into the most powerful and prosperous Nation in world history in record time.

The unfiltered truth demands a decision, a decision results in action, actions born of Faith are how the hand and wisdom of God are revealed to men.


But you have received the Holy Spirit, and he lives within you, so you don’t need anyone to teach you what is true. For the Spirit teaches you everything you need to know, and what he teaches is true; it is not a lie. So just as he has taught you, remain in fellowship with Christ******…1st John 2:27***


#18

I find it funny no one bother to ask exactly what is the problem. What is horrible about America… and how is it preventing you from your own personal pursuit of happiness.


#19

I’ve found that whenever someone tries to convince someone else of a controversial belief, they will always point you to some book (other than the Bible). When such as this is brought to my attention, I will read scripture pertaining to said belief, and my experience has been that reading the Bible has only strengthened my belief.


#20

If a person cannot understand the Bible what use is reading it? AS point is additional reading to help him/her better understand the Bible. As it stands now I am not sure rudplh understands what he/she is reading. We are learn/understand things differently. Something that works for you will not necessarily work for some one else. We all find God differently.