Will Trump really work to “Make America Great Again”?


#1

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I believe there are some fundamental changes needed to be made to Make America Great Again, some of which would neuter our Washington Establishment’s iron fist which is now firmly clenched around the American People’s necks.

Work to enact federal tax reform which withdraws Congress’ power to lay and collect taxes calculated from profits, gains, salaries, tips, wages, and other lawfully earned incomes, and return to a consumption tax system as intended by our founders which is outlined in our original constitution. To not work to end the Washington Establishment’s love affair with “taxing incomes” is to pretend Congress and our federal government can be trusted with a power already proven to be a worm at the root of countless types of miseries and corruption which are engaged in to fatten the fortunes of Washington’s well-connected, used to punish political foes, bribe targeted groups, and is even used to engage in social engineering which defies our nation’s founding principles.

Remove the words from Federal Reserve Notes which declare, “THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER FOR ALL DEBTS, PUBLIC AND PRIVATE“. The irrefutable fact is, our founding fathers intended the market place, and only the market place, to determine what notes, if any, were safe and proper to accept in payment of debt, and they specifically chose to forbid our federal government to make a particular bank note, or any “note”, a legal tender, which if allowed would literally force people and business owners to accept worthless script in payment of debt. Allowing a private banking cartels notes to be made a “legal tender” can be traced to countless miseries which are now suffered by the American people, and were predicted when the Federal Reserve System was established in the same year the notoriously evil 16th Amendment was adopted. Let us recall the words of those who warned us about the Federal Reserve System:

“Most Americans have no real understanding of the operation of the international money lenders. The accounts of the Federal Reserve System have never been audited. It operates outside the control of Congress and manipulates the credit of the United States” — Sen. Barry Goldwater (Rep. AR)

“This [Federal Reserve Act] establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President [Wilson} signs this bill, the invisible government of the monetary power will be legalized…the worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency bill.” — Charles A. Lindbergh, Sr. , 1913

“We have, in this country, one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board. This evil institution has impoverished the people of the United States and has practically bankrupted our government. It has done this through the corrupt practices of the moneyed vultures who control it”. — Congressman Louis T. McFadden in 1932 (Rep. Pa)

In addition to restoring honest money and an honest taxing system, here are a few more things which are necessary to make America Great Again:

Condemn and strike down any attempts to allow our President to exercise the un-constitutional “Fast Track Trade Promotion Authority”. This power is intentionally designed to circumvent the people’s elected members of Congress from exercising their exclusive power to regulate commerce with foreign nations. The Establishment’s idea is to consolidate this power in the hands of the President who can be more easily bribed than bribing a majority in Congress. FTTPA is an attempt to circumvent our Constitution’s separation of powers under which the people’s elected representatives are to fashion regulations of commerce which ought to reflect an America First Policy!

Work to impeach and severely punish judges and Justices who blatantly use their office of public trust to render court rulings which defy the text and documented legislative intent of our Constitution which includes its various amendments. Let us not forget the wisdom spoken by Justice Hugo L. Black. “The public welfare demands that constitutional cases must be decided according to the terms of the Constitution itself, and not according to judges’ views of fairness, reasonableness, or justice.” – Justice Hugo L. Black ( U.S. Supreme Court Justice, 1886 - 1971) Source: Lecture, Columbia University, 1968

Forbid federal employees who head administrative offices, e.g., the Environmental Protective Agency; The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services; Equal Employment Opportunity Commission; etc., from fashioning regulatory policies and then enforcing them which amounts to creating statutory law not approved of by Congress.

Impeach, fire and punish the heads of Administrative Agencies who knowingly and willfully refuse to enforce existing law, such as our nation’s immigration laws.

Restore our nation’s military power and make it second to none!

And strictly adhere to federalism, our Constitution’s plan, which is summarized as follows:

***“The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will, for the most part, be connected.

The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State.*** ___ See Federalist Paper No. 45.

Now, which candidate will advocate the above in order to make America Great Again?

JWK

*** “Honest money and honest taxation, the Key to America’s future Prosperity“*** ___ from “Prosperity Restored by the State Rate Tax Plan”, no longer in print.


#2

Tariffs, trade barriers, crony-corporatism…endorsement of “great” programs like ethanol mandated into gasoline…and “smarter” intrusive government…these are not the recipes for anything other than another Great Depression and a police state.

Watch Milton Friedman’s PBS special series, “Free to Choose” on YouTube. In Part 2 he discusses tariffs at length - and throughout history. He discusses Adam Smith’s condemnation of tariffs.

And not ONLY Friedman blamed the resiliance of the Great Depression on tariffs. Smoot-Hawley launched a worldwide trade war; which launched a worldwide depression; which created political instability which partly set the stage for World War II.

Had Smoot-Hawley not been passed; had hands-off policies been followed, 1929 would have gone down in history as a “Panic” and “stock-market correction.” As did the market plunge in 1987.

The American economy would have bounced back in months, as it had with previous bank panics. Hoover’s liberal interventionist policies, then made WORSE by Roosevelt’s crypto-Marxist New Deal, perpetuated it. By creating uncertainty in the minds of the public.

As we have been afraid where these imbeciles in Washington will go, today. Which is why our economy is in a rut; and why it will only get worse. Trump or Madame Clinton.


#3

While at the University of Maryland I studied the congressional debates on this issue [the Smoot-Haley tariff Act]. I check the World Almanac for statistical evidence, and I carefully noted timelines. The end result was, The Smoot-Hawley Tariff only slightly worsened the depression, which was already in progress and gaining considerable momentum. Too many use the Smoot-Haley tariff Act in a manner which is greatly exaggerated!

See: Protectionism the folly, and the myth of the Smoot-Haley tariff Act

In any event, the thread is not about Smoot-Haley.

JWK


#4

No.

The thread is about Trump magically Making America Great Again®.

A key point to that is PUNITIVE TARIFFS.

Those will make something, yes - but not “American greatness.”

We’ve done it before. It did not work and won’t work.


#5

Has Donald Trump given any indication he wants to end the income tax or the IRS or central banks, JWK? You keep on about those things and you’re looking to Trump to end them? He hasn’t even bothered trying on that count.


#6

No. Not to the best of my knowledge. And I am still waiting to hear Cruz tell us how he intends to close the IRS down when he supports keeping alive the socialist friendly tax on profits, gains, salaries and other “incomes” which requires the IRS to stay open.

JWK

If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, (i.e., the “business cycle”) the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered ___ attributed to Thomas Jefferson


#7

I do not know how to respond to your generalized comments. However, I am in full agreement with our Founders raising revenue at our water’s edge. Taxing at our water’s edge is comparable to paying a fee to sell one’s goods and wares at a flea market. Shouldn’t those importing pay to do business on American soil just like American citizens do? The revenue raised from such taxes are presumed necessary to provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States.

JWK

***“…a national revenue must be obtained; but the system must be such a one, that, while it secures the object of revenue it shall not be oppressive to our constituents.”___ *** Madison, during the creation of our Nation’s first revenue raising Act


#8

I look at the question as a matter of will he actually try to better the country, or will he just better himself.

I don’t know.

I don’t believe a doggone thing he says by looking at his current and past statements.

I know that the day he steps into the whitehouse, all of his plans (or lack of plans) will be shot to caca because the laws won’t allow for much of what he wants, without the other branches allowing it. I have no idea what the Legislative branch will allow him to do. I have no idea what the SCOTUS will allow.

I can’t believe Obamacare was passed, but it was.

I do know that this country is most likely dead, and all I can do now is bide my time by preparing my children to fight and survive. No matter what, they’ll eat. They’ll know how to make shelter. They’ll know combat in many forms. You can take that to the bank.


#9

Aw c’mon, don’t tell that we’re going to prove that Russian idiot right.

Can it at least wait until he’s dead?


#10

I believe American Citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax slaves to support the economic needs of those who have invaded our borders. And this is partly responsible for Trump’s success.

See: Obama budgets $17,613 for every new illegal minor, more than Social Security retirees get

”President Obama has budgeted $17,613 for each of the estimated 75,000 Central American teens expected to illegally cross into the United States this year, $2,841 more than the average annual Social Security retirement benefit, according to a new report.”

JWK

Obama is the worst President ever!. Here is a LIST of Obama’s evil doings!


#11

The youth are too weak kneed in general to sustain this nation. We’ll either rot from the inside, or the silly pants generations coming will allow our laws to so weaken the nation that we’ll be overtaken from outside. That is the curse of progressivism.


#12

I am going to reply to the OP: Will Trump really work to “Make America Great Again”?
Opinions on trade, tarriffs, the IRS etc. are irrelevant.

Q. What will Trump do?

A. Like most people he will continue to do what he always has done.

Q. Make money?

A. No. Money is a way of supporting one’s lifestyle but at a certain point it is just a way to keep score. Unlike the run of the mill politician, the presidency is not the most effective way for Trump to increase his fortune if that were his objective.

Q. Contribute to liberal and conservative politicians, negotiate and make deals?

A. No. These are just tools for what he really does.

Q. Enough of this, what does he do?

A. He builds things, he builds them to be the best in the world, and he takes pride and satisfaction in having built them. Hotels, resorts, office buildings, golf courses and last, but certainly not least, family.

Disagree with his policies and vote for someone better if you like but if you can see the truth in the last statement you must agree that he will work to “Make America Great Again”. Time will tell.


#13

Yet if you heard him say it, helping the Democrats was all for causes he ardently believed. Kind of like what he does now, despite the heel-face-turn…

> Disagree with his policies

It’s not about “disagreeing”. Tariffs and protectionist policy is disastrous.

There is no merit to them, you will not find a single economist that isn’t heterodox, who will support these actions.

No different than for Obama and raising taxes during a recession; something his own economic advisory board was against.


#14

There are no moral grounds under which a tax at our water’s edge may be justified? And how about taxing at our water’s edge to allow foreigners sell their goods and wares in America, just like one does when paying a fee at a flea market to sell one’s goods and wares. Your generalized statements skirts the question as to when it may be justified to tax at our water’s edge.

JWK

***“…a national revenue must be obtained; but the system must be such a one, that, while it secures the object of revenue it shall not be oppressive to our constituents.”___ *** Madison, during the creation of our Nation’s first revenue raising Act


#15
  1. Tariffs can be used to protect industries vital to present and future national security and defense.

  2. Tariffs can be used, or threatened to be used, to prevent subsidized dumping designed to destroy a particular industry and create a future captive market.

  3. Tariffs can be used, or threatened to be used, to counteract state controlled currency manipulation.

  4. If accompanied by other domestic tax reductions, tariffs can have minimal impact on prices.

  5. In the 19th century tariffs were the principal source of federal revenue and America managed to survive.

Trump may use tariffs as a bargaining chip and never actually ask Congress to implement them. Tariffs, like any other tax, can have negative economic results if done stupidly. I get that, OK?

Yes, Slim, it is about disagreeing. So vote for someone else. You have still not addressed the question in the OP or my subsequent post: Will Trump really work to “Make America Great Again”? The question goes to the heart of sincerity not policy. Perhaps you should start another thread : “Will Trump succeed in making America great again?”.

I am done talking about tariffs and protectionism, post all the graphs you want (in your new thread).


#16

Trump has answered my dream of a POTUS that was a practicing capitalist and I HOPE he would be about the BUSINESS of the BUSINESS of America unlike anyone else since Reagan.

IF he sticks to that we will make America great again because we are a country built on capitalism…

I am saying his EGO will drive that to the forefront, he wants and needs to be the man to made America Great Again.

Tariffs should only be used in kind, if they do, we do, other than that they are nothing but a broken tool that leads to epic failure.

Capitalism is organic to mankind, ALL other forms of economics are but theory by some man and or govt to control economics. The ONLY role govt plays in economics of capitalism is to insure and foster competition nationally and globally…


#17

The jackass is a god unto himself. The ART OF THE DEAL Is strictly Him gouging the competitor and enjoying it. The man has NO scruples. But you all will find out.


#18

I can deal with a jackass with no scruples, especially when he single handedly killed the political consultant class in this country. I certainly won’t miss Rove or Morris at all.


#19

Thank you “establishment” part of the GOP for letting that happen. Ditto the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action a/k/a the Iran Deal.

I may post this a few places and I hope I am not breaking forum rules. I consider it impossible for me to vote for Trump. Trump set his sights on destroying people of true quality and merit to get to the nomination. This reminds me of the stand-in character for Huey Long in All the King’s Men who said, about Long’s opponent, “get something on him, and make it stick.” Trump got something on the country. Hopefully, it won’t stick too bad, since I love my country.

This marks the umpteenth destruction of the non-Democratic brand in our country’s history. The next four years, at least, will be ugly. The Republicans self-immolated in 1974 and came out with something better, Reagan. Just as the Whigs self-destructed and the Republicans gave us Abe Lincoln. Earlier, the Federalists imploded. I can’t say what the Whigs gave us was better than Washington and Adams, though. I hope to G-d something better comes out of this. I love my country to much to declare it dead.


#20

I largely agree with you, and that’s one of the prime reasons I want to see Trump win.

We’ve been hemorrhaging masculinity for decades(at least among our men). In a field of 17 candidates, Trump, Christie and arguably Fiorina were the only masculine ones. Should Trump win, I’d like to imagine this is a sign that there is still a potential to reverse the trend of feminizing the country. It’s not that Trump will have any direct impact on it(he can’t). But it’s a sign that things aren’t set on an unshakable course.