Do you believe that god decides what is moral or are morals based on something tangible like our experience?
Of course. Can you think of any society anywhere in the world who doesn’t decide what their morals are?
Even if you believe that god has given you an understanding or what morals are, that doesn’t mean that those morals will be enforced within society, right?
A society has to choose to adopt and enforce the morality of the Christian god. Again, most people in this forum believe that abortion is immoral, yet it’s legal in the society we live in, right?
Thus, society chooses the morals it wishes to adopt. That’s what I mean when I say society decides what is moral.
However, JUST like me, you don’t believe that just because society chooses something as moral, that it, in fact, makes it moral.
So the question becomes, on what logical, reasonable basis do we make the choice?
Now we get to the foundations of our morality.
Without trying to put words in anyone’s mouths, I suspect that most of the people that frequent this forum believe that the foundation of morality is based on the teachings of the Christian god and would have all of society adopt those rules if they had the choice.
Am I wrong?
I believe that morals should be grounded in practical objective experience.
Being burned on purpose by another person causes suffering. It’s the experience of being burned and the suffering that results that makes it wrong. Not because a god says so, but because we value freedom from suffering and not burning others is consistent with that value.
Now, you probably agree that the unjustified burning of another human being is immoral, the question is why?
Society can choose not to burn others because god says it’s wrong, or they can choose not to burn others because they recognize the pain and suffering it causes.
I don’t know what’s so controversial about this idea except that it makes it possible to derive a workable moral system without a god.